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Re: What Will Be Finished First!?!?!?! [message #402727 is a reply to message #402514] Sun, 13 September 2009 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cAmpa wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 14:16

Command & Conquer Red alert 5.

i thought C&C4 is the last in the C&C franchise o.O dident EA say that!?

or did i cry all for nothing? Whats That


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Kimb wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 12:20

cAmpa wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 14:16

Command & Conquer Red alert 5.

i thought C&C4 is the last in the C&C franchise o.O dident EA say that!?

or did i cry all for nothing? Whats That

I think maybe just the last Tiberim not red alert or generals
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Reborn requires scripts 4.0, a project that TT is working on. However, since Reborn just has to do some bug and balance fixes other than the things that require scripts 4.0, it's probably safe to assume that Reborn will come out first.
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cAmpa wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 14:16

Command & Conquer Red alert 5.

i thought C&C4 is the last in the C&C franchise o.O dident EA say that!?

or did i cry all for nothing? Whats That

C&C 4 is the last installment of the Kane saga. They never said anything about ending Tiberium, Red Alert, Generals, or C&C all together.

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maybe, i hope so

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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 21:59

Reborn requires scripts 4.0, a project that TT is working on. However, since Reborn just has to do some bug and balance fixes other than the things that require scripts 4.0, it's probably safe to assume that Reborn will come out first.
Kimb wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 15:20

cAmpa wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 14:16

Command & Conquer Red alert 5.

i thought C&C4 is the last in the C&C franchise o.O dident EA say that!?

or did i cry all for nothing? Whats That

C&C 4 is the last installment of the Kane saga. They never said anything about ending Tiberium, Red Alert, Generals, or C&C all together.


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Re: What Will Be Finished First!?!?!?! [message #402736 is a reply to message #402730] Sun, 13 September 2009 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 12:59

Reborn requires scripts 4.0, a project that TT is working on. However, since Reborn just has to do some bug and balance fixes other than the things that require scripts 4.0, it's probably safe to assume that Reborn will come out first.
Kimb wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 15:20

cAmpa wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 14:16

Command & Conquer Red alert 5.

i thought C&C4 is the last in the C&C franchise o.O dident EA say that!?

or did i cry all for nothing? Whats That

C&C 4 is the last installment of the Kane saga. They never said anything about ending Tiberium, Red Alert, Generals, or C&C all together.

Actually, they do plan on ending the Tiberium saga; As quoted directly from PC Gamer (September)
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The eyebrow raised by Sam Bass, head of story on the Command & Conquer series, points to an epic conclusion. It points to the end of an era. And it points to rebirth. In the fourth C&C strategy game, EA are upfront about ending it all. They're putting a full-stop to Command & Conquer. This will be the last in the Tiberium series, and the last of the games that stars Kane.
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maybe, i hope so

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havoc9826 wrote on Sat, 12 September 2009 13:34

TT because I remember reading somewhere that the next version of Reborn will be using scripts 4.0, and until TT is released, neither can Reborn with scripts 4.0 unless they do some major downgrading and retooling. Sigh.



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Re: What Will Be Finished First!?!?!?! [message #402932 is a reply to message #402514] Tue, 15 September 2009 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What Will Be Finished First!?!?!?! [message #402942 is a reply to message #402736] Tue, 15 September 2009 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cnc95fan wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 16:27


Actually, they do plan on ending the Tiberium saga; As quoted directly from PC Gamer (September)
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The eyebrow raised by Sam Bass, head of story on the Command & Conquer series, points to an epic conclusion. It points to the end of an era. And it points to rebirth. In the fourth C&C strategy game, EA are upfront about ending it all. They're putting a full-stop to Command & Conquer. This will be the last in the Tiberium series, and the last of the games that stars Kane.


Magazines are very commonly misinformed and misprinted.

EA has said themselves, on multiple occasions, that C&C4 is not the last C&C game that will feature Tiberium. It's the C&C game that ends the story arch of Kane.

Go onto their forums and search for yourself if you don't believe me.
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R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 15 September 2009 21:00


Magazines are very commonly misinformed and misprinted.

EA has said themselves, on multiple occasions, that C&C4 is not the last C&C game that will feature Tiberium. It's the C&C game that ends the story arch of Kane.

Go onto their forums and search for yourself if you don't believe me.


Same thing. The Tiberium saga is TD, Renegade, TS, C&C3 and C&C4, which all feature Kane.

This is opposed to the Red Alert universe.


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Tiberium can exist without Kane. As far as I know, the game Tiberium, before they canceled it, did not feature Kane.

After C&C4 comes out, they still have the options of prequels or side-stories (like what Renegade's plot was).

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reborn wrote on Sun, 13 September 2009 06:42

havoc9826 wrote on Sat, 12 September 2009 14:34

TT because I remember reading somewhere that the next version of Reborn will be using scripts 4.0, and until TT is released, neither can Reborn with scripts 4.0 unless they do some major downgrading and retooling. Sigh.


Havoc is right.

APB Gamma and cnc_reborn will both be using 4.0, so TT has to finish first!


Is 4.0 coming out exclusively with TT? What if 4.0 gets finished before the patch is ready, would they need to be released together?

If so, then yes, TT must come out before Reborn, unless Reborn decides it does not need 4.0 for their projected release.


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Re: What Will Be Finished First!?!?!?! [message #403033 is a reply to message #402514] Wed, 16 September 2009 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cmatt42 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2009 19:30

R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 15 September 2009 21:00


Magazines are very commonly misinformed and misprinted.

EA has said themselves, on multiple occasions, that C&C4 is not the last C&C game that will feature Tiberium. It's the C&C game that ends the story arch of Kane.

Go onto their forums and search for yourself if you don't believe me.


Same thing. The Tiberium saga is TD, Renegade, TS, C&C3 and C&C4, which all feature Kane.

This is opposed to the Red Alert universe.


Kane was in RA1, back when the series was good.


TT will be done soon. Reborn has in production how long now? And the infantry only release was how long ago? If they keep up this pace, reborn will be released just in time for the second coming of Jesus.


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Dover wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 19:04


Kane was in RA1, back when the series was good.


Correction, he was in RA1 back when the series actually sucked more than it does now.

Red Alert has always sucked. RA1 was the worst out of all of them.


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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:29

Dover wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 19:04


Kane was in RA1, back when the series was good.


Correction, he was in RA1 back when the series actually sucked more than it does now.

Red Alert has always sucked. RA1 was the worst out of all of them.


Yes, I enjoy invoking conversations like this. You're next post is probably going to be somewhere along the lines of "You're a moron. How can you possibly think that cartoonish faggotry can compare to the gritty alternate war game that was RA1? Can you give me a reason other than "it sucks?"

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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:29

Dover wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 19:04


Kane was in RA1, back when the series was good.


Correction, he was in RA1 back when the series actually sucked more than it does now.

Red Alert has always sucked. RA1 was the worst out of all of them.


Yes, I enjoy invoking conversations like this. You're next post is probably going to be somewhere along the lines of "You're a moron. How can you possibly think that cartoonish faggotry can compare to the gritty alternate war game that was RA1? Can you give me a reason other than "it sucks?"


Balance issues aside, the endings were trash. How can you compare Stalin choking a bitch after having been poisoned because he conquered all of Europe to "LOL LOOK @ KOMUNIST UNDREWAREZ!!1!"

And RA2/3 are a bit confused as to their themes. Do they want to be a game about world domination? Do they want to be the RTS equivilent of the Benny Hill show? You can't do both. They don't mix.

Thirdly, the game marks a sad shift in the C&C series that has persisted to this day -- substituting substance for style. Instead of making sure you have a high-quality game and solid plot, you can just leave it more-or-less done and incorporate a few hotties in the FMVs, and fanbois will still lap that shit up. The only C&C game since that hasn't given in is Generals, and retards seem to have some kind of pent-up impotent rage against it. Probably because the lack of tits.

Anyway, no matter what your opinions on the feel of the game, I'm pretty sure we can all agree there's no excuse for GIs outranging Telsa Coils.


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Note, I did not say they were "good games." I just said I disliked RA1 more. It's much like Starcraft in that it's gameplay, style and story are so boring that you couldn't pay me to finish the campaign. I just don't have the luxury of an attention span that lets me play games that are boring and not fun. I think I got to like one of the last few missions for both campaigns before I stopped playing.

The other RA games had crappy stories too, but their cutscenes at least provided some entertainment value. I dreaded the cutscenes in both TD and RA1 for how embarrassingly horrible and flat out stupid they were.

Look. I'm a glutton for game content. If there is something in the game, I want to experiance it because I feel like I'm missing something if I don't. I like to fully watch all cutscenes in games and rolyplay accordingly. Immerse myself in the plot, so to speak. RA1's FMVs were just so horrible, that I couldn't bare to watch them. They are probably the only game that I've ever intentionally never wanted to watch cutscenes from.

The way I see it.. at least RA2 and RA3 had the element of humor to work off of. That's the only thing that got me through those games' stories.

I don't care what you tell me, but if my default emotion, for watching and playing the game, is embarassment, then there is no possible way you are going to convince me it's worth my time and effort.

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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:22

Note, I did not say they were "good games." I just said I disliked RA1 more. It's much like Starcraft in that it's gameplay, style and story are so boring that you couldn't pay me to finish the campaign. I just don't have the luxury of an attention span that lets me play games that are boring and not fun. I think I got to like one of the last few missions for both campaigns before I stopped playing.


I'll do you a favor and pretend you didn't just insult StarCraft.

R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:22

The other RA games had crappy stories too, but their cutscenes at least provided some entertainment value. I dreaded the cutscenes in both TD and RA1 for how embarrassingly horrible and flat out stupid they were.


Compared to? They were much much better then the terribad cut scenes of Tiberian Sun.

R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:22

Look. I'm a glutton for game content. If there is something in the game, I want to experiance it because I feel like I'm missing something if I don't. I like to fully watch all cutscenes in games and rolyplay accordingly. Immerse myself in the plot, so to speak. RA1's FMVs were just so horrible, that I couldn't bare to watch them. They are probably the only game that I've ever intentionally never wanted to watch cutscenes from.


I guess there's no accounting for taste (Or lack thereof, in your case).

R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 18:22

The way I see it.. at least RA2 and RA3 had the element of humor to work off of. That's the only thing that got me through those games' stories.

I don't care what you tell me, but if my default emotion, for watching and playing the game, is embarassment, then there is no possible way you are going to convince me it's worth my time and effort.



You didn't find the humor embarrassing at all? Half of the "humor" wasn't funny, and there's nothing as embarrassing as the awkwardness created by bad jokes. At least RA1 and StarCraft were good, solid RTSes. They had substance, which is something RA2/RA3 lack entirely.


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havoc9826 wrote on Sat, 12 September 2009 14:34

TT because I remember reading somewhere that the next version of Reborn will be using scripts 4.0, and until TT is released, neither can Reborn with scripts 4.0 unless they do some major downgrading and retooling. Sigh.


Havoc is right.

APB Gamma and cnc_reborn will both be using 4.0, so TT has to finish first!


Is 4.0 coming out exclusively with TT? What if 4.0 gets finished before the patch is ready, would they need to be released together?

If so, then yes, TT must come out before Reborn, unless Reborn decides it does not need 4.0 for their projected release.

TT and 4.0 basically have the same relationship as scripts.dll and bhs.dll. This also means that they will be released together, and can't be mixed n matched with different versions.


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