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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398677 is a reply to message #398675] |
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nikki6ixx
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Hey, that looks really cool! I don't really understand the implementation of a digital 8 on the helmets, but it's very well done nonetheless!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398696 is a reply to message #398675] |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
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i love it ![Very Happy](images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif)
what gun is that? i hope it can be remodeled
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif) , ![Thumbs Up](images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif) . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398706 is a reply to message #398704] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 16:08 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Starbuzzz
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thx all! Glad you like!
@ Reaver: yeah mate go ahead that will be awesome!
@ nikki: yo! That #8 was on the helmet of the artwork so I thought I could pop it on this one. I dunno what's so special about that number...it is on the BH sniper, laser guy and SBH as well.
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That Beta items looks so good...can't believe many good stuff were rejected from the final game.
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398709 is a reply to message #398675] |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
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now if only the beta GDI soldier was made
if u need info about it PM me
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif) , ![Thumbs Up](images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif) . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398731 is a reply to message #398675] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 18:35 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Reaver11
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Nightma12 wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 18:39 |
Reaver11 wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 18:28 | Well most of the beta items have a good reason why they are skipped. I could explain it all but that would be a long story ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
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Why? 99% of them were better.
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There are several reasons. First things first till my knowledge westwood made like three different versions of Renegade. While in gamedevelopment the computers changed a lot
One big issue back in those days for model changes where the game requirements.
For instance take the remodeld advanced powerplant. This thing is huge and it consumes alot of polygrons. I remember Phatlankton saying that it lagged his gmax and there where plans to use the building in the missions but it kinda was too complex and very demanding on the pc.
(Remember this was around the year 2000-2001, people where on p2/lowend p3's)
Main raison why the buildings changed was the visibility system. Tbh the vis in Ren sucks. Which means originaly big outdoors maps where hard to make and no pc could handle it those days. (with renegades vis system) This is also the reason why most Ren buildings just are a closed box. Meaning doors closed you wont need interiors to draw.
The same reasons as for the adv nod pp go for the refinery its big. This one could have been used in singleplayer in my eyes but was skipped out due to changes of the singleplayer concept. (In the Logan days you where a commando assisting in an aow game and not a special sneaky havoc who sneaks into anything)
Next thing is that the doors and corridors are half the size of the current Renegades buildings. Which means most of the interior should be redone to get it to work properly online.
In the end of this video you will see more of these small doors -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3MhifOZEPE&feature=related
This is the version where logan was in charge and guns where like 80 polys. (See the m203 in a few posts above, if you want to check if it is real open up the orca entry animation and click unhide and you will find logan with the m203 and the m203 backmodel). Also to my knowledge there was no firstperson mode in that old Ren.
Next thing take the orcalifter. Its just a driving box. Which is skipped due to gameplay reasons it would have been as useless as having a cargotruck in the current Ren aow but then bigger. Hench its nearly bigger then a mammoth tank.
Most of the old vehicles have been changed when westwood was really adding multiplayer. Take the old buggy for instance
This buggy was ment to be controlled by two persons. Imagine the current Renegade aow and that you would have to have two players control a Buggy while you can control a medtank with one person? Gameplay whise buggys would get worthless quickly. Also the persons inside are visible and the gunner is too. Which means the buggy cannot fire 360 degrees. Biggest reason it is skipped you would have to display the entry animation and keep the charachters visible ingame which means more polys and a more demanding game. (The reconbike had visible persons inside even the orca had it)
I have to admit the old vehicles looked alot more like CnC Tiberian Dawn. Still the Nod Flametank had a very complex suspension system which would handle a suspension limit of 0.2 Which would make it able to drive but if you encounter a slope it gets stuck, bluehelled or just fails at it + it is very big. Also it has no turret. try using a flamer without the turret setting when humvees just cirle around you and kill you.
The Lighttank has suspension issues also its suspension length should be 0.25 but it just wont handle that way in Renegade. And in comparison with the mediumtank that Renegade has these models are high-pollied.
Basically in a nutshell. These vehicles proved to be to highpolyied and some where just not fit for a good gameplay.
For weapons it mostly deals with taste the old weapons from 2000-2001 where just underpolyied incompare to the Renweapons now. (the m203 had 80 polys a sniper now has 1500 polys). Some weapons just got different rolls like the automaticshotgun is a grenadelauncher now. Its just that we never had those guns and they look different.
Also one main reason for a lot of changes was that Westwood kinda had too much ideas and was turning Renegade in a DNF project. (Hench it missed shipping twice)
Basically the game had a lot of features(These are skipped):
- Animated vehile entry animations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2i7NZIutjA (its around 40 seconds) Also note that the camera is having alot of issues with these small corridors in buildings.
- Persons inside vehicles: Well just more polygrons to render.
- Dodge: Like unreal does it only the AI kept rolling on on ledges
- Controlable base defences
- Capturable techbuildings (mutantlab/mutantpct)
- Call for backup in missions (Calling like an orca strike etc)
- Mobile gunemplacements
The main raison for change is just gamedesign, the earlier guns and vehicles just werent fitting and too demanding for the pc's back when Renegade was being made.
I hope this explained alot if not just ask.
Note:
All these models shown are released. I will add some new found / fixed stuff lateron in my pack.
http://www.renz0r.net/Renegade_beta_assets_pack_1.0.zip
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398799 is a reply to message #398773] |
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Starbuzzz
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thx all once again!!
Reaver, nice story! I guess many of them are true...
ErroR wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 03:59 |
P.S: Nice skin pawky, but why didn't you change the body a little to look more like the beta
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Yeah lol...I think I got too excited and released. It looks good I think but yeah you are right, I should make the helmet and vest more darker and redraw some of the clothing and make em darker. I think I will release a second version and update it here! Thanks for suggestions, m8!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398966 is a reply to message #398835] |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
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unless u modifie a objects.ddb but thats counted as hack
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif) , ![Thumbs Up](images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif) . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #398969 is a reply to message #398967] |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
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ErroR wrote on Sat, 22 August 2009 15:37 |
goliath35 wrote on Sat, 22 August 2009 17:36 | unless u modifie a objects.ddb but thats counted as hack
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um, no. there is another way
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another way to be banned fail
uhhh ok
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif) , ![Thumbs Up](images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif) . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: [SKIN] Beta Nod Soldier reskin [message #399160 is a reply to message #399051] |
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ErroR
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Sun, 23 August 2009 05:07 |
GoodOneDriver wrote on Sat, 22 August 2009 17:17 | how those scrin do it?
the object file?
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shader plugins or another way.
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@Blacky wut?
@GoodOneDriver You realize it's something you can get banned for, considered as a cheat. So noone will tell you here how to do it. Also better don't try it, not worth it
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