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Omar007 is currently offline  Omar007
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Well the title seems pretty obvious: I'm having trouble with 'Blue screens of death' on my system.

I'm running XP and VISTA in dualboot (XP primary both 32-bit).

Specs:
Core2Duo E8500
NVidia GeForce 9800GTX+
4GB RAM installed -- 3GB in use by windows
1GB used as Shared Video Memory (because else it's just sitting ducks)


My last BSOD had the 0x0000008E error. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA
It didn't called a file on the screen but after i debugged my MEMORY.DMP (kernel dump) it seems that my Video Card driver is the problem. I have updated it already a few times since this isnt the first time NV4_DISP.DLL is mentioned in a BSOD.

Weird thing is my brother has the EXACT same PC and doesnt have these BSOD's. I also got games crashing from time to time which he doesn't.

Could it be that my video card is damaged??

Here is also the MEMORY.DMP debug:
MEMORY.DMP Debug

It also says MassEffect.exe once but i believe that is because that is the last game i played and crashed (not BSOD but crashes and asks to send an error report)


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Re: BSOD [message #397975 is a reply to message #397954] Sat, 15 August 2009 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Google, a few sites, talked about that error cuased rather by
1)the memory you have is not supported by your xp partition
2)corrupt ram?

but dont make since since you talk about it fucking up on games and video drivers.. idk..im just guessing from what iv read on google, try removing a ram stick and then if happens agian the other and put the first one back or something, worth a shot
Re: BSOD [message #397982 is a reply to message #397975] Sat, 15 August 2009 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Sat, 15 August 2009 21:24

On Google, a few sites, talked about that error cuased rather by
1)the memory you have is not supported by your xp partition
2)corrupt ram?

but dont make since since you talk about it fucking up on games and video drivers.. idk..im just guessing from what iv read on google, try removing a ram stick and then if happens agian the other and put the first one back or something, worth a shot

I also did that google search Razz

I tested my RAM already with MemTest -> No Errors found
Could have had bad luck that my memory functioned OK while testing xD

Weird thing is my brother has the exact same stuff installed in his system so all hardware should be compatible with my partition as it all works on his system.

About removing sticks etc, I can't because my waranty will void.

We had to send my brothers PC back once because a cable was damaged (harddrive failure now and then) but they didn't found it :S
I found it afterwards just looking at the symptoms but now i can't find it at my own PC Sad


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Re: BSOD [message #398033 is a reply to message #397954] Sun, 16 August 2009 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While the BSOD mentions the display driver it is entirely possible its actually a different driver at fault, or a combination of several drivers that simply don't play nice together. I would suggest checking your chipset drivers against those of your brothers PC to see if they are different versions, if they are try upgrading (or downgrading) yours to match his and see what happens.

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Re: BSOD [message #398035 is a reply to message #397954] Sun, 16 August 2009 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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try cpuz
Re: BSOD [message #398055 is a reply to message #397954] Sun, 16 August 2009 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many problems with bluescreens are caused by kernel heap corruption: try using GFlags or Driver Verifier to turn on pageheap and see if that catches the culprit, as nv4_disp is a very reliable driver in and of itself.
Re: BSOD [message #398064 is a reply to message #397954] Sun, 16 August 2009 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what does your event viewer say , looks like a video problem

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Re: BSOD [message #398101 is a reply to message #397954] Sun, 16 August 2009 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmm, no idea, try this Huh

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Re: BSOD [message #398192 is a reply to message #398101] Mon, 17 August 2009 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ErroR wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:24

hmm, no idea, try this Huh

I went to the same page he got the nv4_disp.dll and in the comments i saw more people had a problem of BDOD's with nv4_disp.dll

Their problems seem to have been fixed by replacing it i hope mine does too. Thanks for this movie Thumbs Up

Gen_Blacky wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 17:49

what does your event viewer say , looks like a video problem

My event viewer doesn't say a thing. I think because the BSOD's show before XP is really booted.

danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 10:35

While the BSOD mentions the display driver it is entirely possible its actually a different driver at fault, or a combination of several drivers that simply don't play nice together. I would suggest checking your chipset drivers against those of your brothers PC to see if they are different versions, if they are try upgrading (or downgrading) yours to match his and see what happens.

Our chipset is the same. The only difference is our BIOS. He still has a 1 earlier version (0803). I now updated from 0803 to 1001 (just 1 update, there aren't any patches between 0803 and 1001)


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Re: BSOD [message #398748 is a reply to message #397954] Thu, 20 August 2009 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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still have problems ?

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Re: BSOD [message #398771 is a reply to message #398748] Fri, 21 August 2009 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 05:33

still have problems ?

Well it seems all OK. I have to say though that i didn't played the games that would crash before long enough yet xD

At least i didn't get a BSOD while booting up yet so that's nice already Thumbs Up


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Re: BSOD [message #398889 is a reply to message #397954] Fri, 21 August 2009 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if you still have problems try uninstalling your video driver and download the latest video driver from nvidia. I like using this tool to remove video drivers but it cost money http://www.drivercleaner.net/index.php

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Re: BSOD [message #398997 is a reply to message #398889] Sat, 22 August 2009 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Sat, 22 August 2009 03:17

if you still have problems try uninstalling your video driver and download the latest video driver from nvidia. I like using this tool to remove video drivers but it cost money http://www.drivercleaner.net/index.php

Did that over 100 times already xD

So if i do get BSOD's again that won't help i guess Sad
Didn't helped the 100 times before...


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Re: BSOD [message #400400 is a reply to message #397954] Fri, 28 August 2009 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well it happened again 2 times. Only from the last time i have a memory.dmp debug. The Game2.exe called this time is from SS

memory.dmp debug


I have a screenie of the BSOD below. From the second and first time
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Re: BSOD [message #405492 is a reply to message #397954] Mon, 05 October 2009 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Install GNU/Linux.

I'm gonna hijack a plane / I won't do it for glory or fame / and when they catch me they'll see I'm insane / put your Ronald Reagan to shame
Re: BSOD [message #405599 is a reply to message #397954] Tue, 06 October 2009 07:11 Go to previous message
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If i wanted GNU/Linux i would have taken it in the first place >.>

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