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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398472 is a reply to message #398471] |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:23 |
| The_Darkest_Night wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 19:19 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:12 |
| The_Darkest_Night wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 19:04 |
I guess you're not understanding Dover, this is the RENEGADE community forum not CRIMSON's community forum. It's highly unjust for one community to be singled out publically in THIS forum just because Crimson has the ability to do so.
Maybe we should add a word filter for 'Dover' to change to 'NSsuckup?'
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That's funny. I thought it was CRIMSON paying for this forum, not the Renegade community. If you think you can do a better job, go start your own offical forum. "www.forumforrenegade.com" and "www.renegadepublicforums.com" are free URLs. Better hurry before they're taken!
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So since she pays for them, she has the authority automatically make every single poster badmouth another community that split from hers?
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She has the authority to do much more within the confines of this website, but that's neither here nor there. She could turn the forums into a gay buttseks porn site, and neither you or I or anybody else can stop her.
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I know she can, but all anyone said is what she's doing isn't justified...and why would she "pretend" that there was no filter in the first place if she didn't know it wasn't justified?
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398473 is a reply to message #398471] |
Tue, 18 August 2009 19:30 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 22:23 |
She has the authority to do much more within the confines of this website, but that's neither here nor there. She could turn the forums into a gay buttseks porn site, and neither you or I or anybody else can stop her.
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Wow Seriously did we have to go all gay buttsex on this topic now?
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398478 is a reply to message #398113] |
Tue, 18 August 2009 20:12 |
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LOL - EA doesn't run this place. EA doesn't pay the bills. EA doesn't host the server or the files. I do. Dover is right, I could change the home page to Goatse and there's nothing anyone can do or say about it. I could turn these forums off right now if I wanted to. Believe me, EA tried to tell me to unban someone once. I told them to shove it and stuck to my guns and nothing bad ever happened to me because of it. I still got a nice big box of Renegade mousepads and action figures anyway.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398481 is a reply to message #398113] |
Tue, 18 August 2009 20:24 |
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It doesn't matter who. This person was warned repeatedly to stop doing something and refused, so I banned him for 30 days. He whined to EA about it and EA asked me to unban him. I explained why the ban was placed and politely refused. After the ban time was up, gradually this person and I got past our differences and get along fine. So, I see no reason to drag his name through the mud. The point was simply that grant89uk actually thinks that EA has ANY say whatsoever in how I choose to run these forums when it could not be farther from the truth.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398491 is a reply to message #398478] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 00:04 |
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 05:12 |
LOL - EA doesn't run this place. EA doesn't pay the bills. EA doesn't host the server or the files. I do. Dover is right, I could change the home page to Goatse and there's nothing anyone can do or say about it. I could turn these forums off right now if I wanted to. Believe me, EA tried to tell me to unban someone once. I told them to shove it and stuck to my guns and nothing bad ever happened to me because of it. I still got a nice big box of Renegade mousepads and action figures anyway.
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I remember that. Good times!
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398502 is a reply to message #398481] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 03:42 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 22:24 |
It doesn't matter who. This person was warned repeatedly to stop doing something and refused, so I banned him for 30 days. He whined to EA about it and EA asked me to unban him. I explained why the ban was placed and politely refused. After the ban time was up, gradually this person and I got past our differences and get along fine. So, I see no reason to drag his name through the mud. The point was simply that grant89uk actually thinks that EA has ANY say whatsoever in how I choose to run these forums when it could not be farther from the truth.
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I don't think there's anything truthful you could say about that incident that COULD "drag my name through the mud". You certainly said a great many untruthful things at the time, and apparently got other people to do so too, including your own brother (!? who the fuck manipulates a family member just to get them to flame someone on the internet for them?)
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This person was warned repeatedly to stop doing something and refused, so I banned him for 30 days.
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Untrue.
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He whined to EA about it and EA asked me to unban him.
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Hmmm. I read quite a lot that I supposedly 'begged EA to get me unbanned', from all sorts of renesources. Again, totally untrue. I didn't ask to be unbanned; at the time the forums were run so badly that I had no great desire to come back. What I did do was express some concerns I still believe were totally valid. I will be candid here; back then, your actions were appalling. By your own statements, you were pissed at me for telling EA things about you they "shouldn't have ever known about". That alone ought to ring alarm bells
This exodus business, by comparison, seems pretty trivial.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398510 is a reply to message #398113] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 06:00 |
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I still have the emails between EA and I so I can tell you that what you're saying isn't exactly truthful. He asked for an explanation of why I banned you. I explained that because he instructed both of us to get along or stop talking to each other and you continued to attack me (and I gave him quotes), I had no choice left but to ban you for a while. He did not have a problem with this.
If you'll remember at the time, I had just met the guy in person because this all happened around the same time EA flew me to Los Angeles for the first C&C3 Community Summit.
The quote from him was "I'm being brought in to the middle of some more drama and I'm really not happy about it." I think that sums it up pretty well.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398512 is a reply to message #398113] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 06:08 |
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Either way, you and I have collaborated on several projects since then, up to and including getting the points fix into production which might be the best thing for the game since Sliced Bread, and like I said before, I was not bringing you into this for any other reason but to demonstrate to these guys that EA does not run these forums nor can they make me stop or change any policies.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398516 is a reply to message #398510] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 06:39 |
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 08:00 |
I still have the emails between EA and I so I can tell you that what you're saying isn't exactly truthful. He asked for an explanation of why I banned you.
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If that's the only thing he pressed you about, then you are probably fortunate.
| Crimson wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 08:00 |
I explained that because he instructed both of us to get along or stop talking to each other and you continued to attack me (and I gave him quotes), I had no choice left but to ban you for a while. He did not have a problem with this.
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He didn't 'instruct' me to do anything, as I've said several times. It is true that I told him that I would TRY to overlook some of the more incredibly bizarre and corrupt things you were doing, but you've no idea how difficult that turned out to be. Let me give you one example. Remember when I said: "crimson, after all's said and done, I sincerely hope you prove me wrong" (or something to that effect), you said don't worry, I will. A mere matter of days later the truth about SK - and you - comes out.
Aside from all that, if he had 'instructed' me what he apparently instructed you, I'd have told him thanks but no thanks. I would have been extremely offended if he thought that we were on the same moral level; it'd be like saying: "Germany, Poland, BOTH OF YOU cut it out!"
When you've said your very worst about me, it isn't going to be anywhere near as bad as some of the stuff I've said about you. Time and time again you've painted me as some kind of supervillain simply for calling you out on really, really fucked up things you did. You clearly didn't see how unbelievably pathetic that was at the time, but you seem a little wiser now, so open your eyes. OMG you showed apoc a quote, what of? Me complaining about my website getting hacked? Me standing up to the bully? This is slavik453 logic.
You can dislike me as much as you care to, but I've never given you a reason to distrust me. And yet you banned me, while the likes of 0x90 and slavik/null and xptek and kholdstare get away with a great deal. When slavik came back recently (and completely humiliated himself again), he almost gave me the impression that he was quite close in your counsels recently. I could almost believe that you considered the likes of him a better ally than me; is that true? Don't answer that out loud if you don't want to, but if internally you're thinking 'yes', then god help us.
| Crimson wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 08:00 |
If you'll remember at the time, I had just met the guy in person because this all happened around the same time EA flew me to Los Angeles for the first C&C3 Community Summit.
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I certainly do remember; I met him about a month before.
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Either way, you and I have collaborated on several projects since then, up to and including getting the points fix into production which might be the best thing for the game since Sliced Bread, and like I said before, I was not bringing you into this for any other reason but to demonstrate to these guys that EA does not run these forums nor can they make me stop or change any policies.
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Indeed they can't. However, I've asked you several times over the years whether you consider yourself answerable to the community, not to EA. You generally give me the impression that you don't. I don't accept that this is the same situation as you running n00bstories; this is the official Renegade forums and if you don't have a legal obligation to run it more fairly than you have done with, for example, me... or exodus... then you ought to have a moral obligation. Like I said in the thread which has since been deleted; you put whatever filters you like on the n00bstories forum and you won't hear much complaint from me. Doing it here, however, is unjust.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398522 is a reply to message #398516] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 07:28 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 15:39 |
.Like I said in the thread which has since been deleted; you put whatever filters you like on the n00bstories forum and you won't hear much complaint from me. Doing it here, however, is unjust.
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What thread? What filter? It never even existed, don't forget that, even though nearly EVERYONE has seen it, it never even was there people!
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398524 is a reply to message #398516] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 07:50 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 06:39 |
You can dislike me as much as you care to, but I've never given you a reason to distrust me. And yet you banned me, while the likes of 0x90 and slavik/null and xptek and kholdstare get away with a great deal. When slavik came back recently (and completely humiliated himself again), he almost gave me the impression that he was quite close in your counsels recently. I could almost believe that you considered the likes of him a better ally than me; is that true? Don't answer that out loud if you don't want to, but if internally you're thinking 'yes', then god help us.
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Slavik/null? Close in my counsels? Ally? Please. He's the type who THINKS he knows everything when in fact he doesn't. I don't even think we've been on speaking terms for at least 2 years. He came in here recently attacking me yet again, so I don't know why you'd even think that.
As for disliking or distrusting you... I do neither. Honestly, I thought we were past all this. I specifically did NOT bring your name into it for that reason because things were very different back then.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398526 is a reply to message #398518] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 08:03 |
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| grant89uk wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 06:59 |
Im pretty sure they wouldn't be happy for this to continue to be known as the "official" renegade forums if you had goatse and gaysex on the front page.
Yes you could continue to run the forums as you please, but im pretty sure it would no longer be under the banner of "official renegade forums".
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Lol.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398541 is a reply to message #398113] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 11:11 |
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The "lol" is at your ignorance about how little EA cares about what happens here, and your lack of understanding as to far Crimson's power really extends on these forums. Consider the internet equivalent of me pointing my finger and laughing.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398542 is a reply to message #398541] |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 20:11 |
The "lol" is at your ignorance about how little EA cares about what happens here, and your lack of understanding as to far Crimson's power really extends on these forums.
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The "lol" is that we all know that Crimson likes to abuse her power on this forums, like removing threads about Exodus Faildus and the filter that never appeared to have been there.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398546 is a reply to message #398542] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 12:22 |
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| Prulez wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 11:45 |
| Dover wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 20:11 |
The "lol" is at your ignorance about how little EA cares about what happens here, and your lack of understanding as to far Crimson's power really extends on these forums.
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The "lol" is that we all know that Crimson likes to abuse her power on this forums, like removing threads about Exodus Faildus and the filter that never appeared to have been there.
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The most accurate strikeout here is on the "ab", since she can do whatever the fuck she wants and isn't answerable to anybody. Why is that so hard to understand?
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Childish n00bstories behavoir [message #398547 is a reply to message #398546] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 12:38 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 21:22 |
| Prulez wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 11:45 |
| Dover wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 20:11 |
The "lol" is at your ignorance about how little EA cares about what happens here, and your lack of understanding as to far Crimson's power really extends on these forums.
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The "lol" is that we all know that Crimson likes to abuse her power on this forums, like removing threads about Exodus Faildus and the filter that never appeared to have been there.
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The most accurate strikeout here is on the "ab", since she can do whatever the fuck she wants and isn't answerable to anybody. Why is that so hard to understand?
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I understand that perfectly that she can do whatever she wants right now, whether she thinks Westwood would have approved it back in the day or not, though let me ask you a question.
Why are you acting all of a sudden like Crimson is a goddess? (Goddess, because it is the female form of God, obviously)
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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