| A call for fairness [message #397672] |
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Goztow
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I don't want to regenerate the complete advantage skin / model debate again, but I want to do a call out towards every player that will play in this tournament to avoid the use of bright skins and to avoid the use of any model overall. It will, in my opinion, make games fairer and thus more enjoyable for everyone.
If you like using these skins or models, I'm sure you can remove them from your data directory for these couple of games, while you're installing scripts 3.4.4 maybe  . I'll let you decide for yourself what you consider an advantage and what you don't.
I'm aware that there's no real way of checking or forcing this, but if most of you put up some "self discipline" for this, then I'm convinced it'll be beneficial for the tourney.
The same behaviour should obviously apply towards people that think they need cheats to play half decently...
PS: I'm not an organizer, I'm just a player in this tourney but I think this matters. I personally only play for fun, I truly don't care about winning or loosing  .
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397800 is a reply to message #397672] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 23:32  |
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Goztow
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How is it fun to know you're playing but not competing on the same level? I don't care about winning or loosing if I have a fair and equal chance to do both.
Cheats do tend to ruin my fun.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397811 is a reply to message #397672] |
Thu, 13 August 2009 02:00 |
Hitman
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lol i dont think changing the skin of a nog engi for example from red/black to completly blue or something would be to helpfull... :/ advantage skins are overrated
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397815 is a reply to message #397811] |
Thu, 13 August 2009 02:18 |
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| Hitman wrote on Thu, 13 August 2009 11:00 |
lol i dont think changing the skin of a nog engi for example from red/black to completly blue or something would be to helpfull... :/ advantage skins are overrated
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Is that why you're using them? (see your tank fight video...)[/offtopic]
As I said in my first post: this isn't ment to become another "advantage or not" skin thread, I think my intentions are very clear.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397816 is a reply to message #397815] |
Thu, 13 August 2009 02:22 |
Hitman
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| Goztow wrote on Thu, 13 August 2009 04:18 |
| Hitman wrote on Thu, 13 August 2009 11:00 |
lol i dont think changing the skin of a nog engi for example from red/black to completly blue or something would be to helpfull... :/ advantage skins are overrated
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Is that why you're using them? (see your tank fight video...)[/offtopic]
As I said in my first post: this isn't ment to become another "advantage or not" skin thread, I think my intentions are very clear.
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lmao? i have no 'skins' other than clearscope and a custom reticle... and i mean NONE at all
time for some glasses
ps: the custom ltank skin is built into the map
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397931 is a reply to message #397909] |
Fri, 14 August 2009 18:02 |
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| Nightma12 wrote on Fri, 14 August 2009 07:34 |
Renguard pure mode anybody?
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Sure i got no problem with that idea, its the answer , but not for cheaters and the like. so here it comes.
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #397952 is a reply to message #397939] |
Sat, 15 August 2009 02:22 |
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| Nune wrote on Fri, 14 August 2009 19:55 |
imo if they need skins/ cheats to put up a good fight idc. Otherwise its too easy.
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Those are the type of comments that gives us a bad reputation. Please think next time before you post =/
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #398032 is a reply to message #397936] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 00:16 |
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| Nightma12 wrote on Fri, 14 August 2009 18:59 |
RenGuard does indeed successfully block skins no problem - the cheaters never bothered bypassing it since no server used pure lol.
I am quite happy to support the use of compulsory pure renguard on this tourny with scripts 3.4.4
Thats the only way to be sure everything is 100% fair.
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RenGuard has outlived it's usefulness. BIATCH is superior and RR is next in line (1st for client-side).
If you are going to push for RenGuard compulsory, then I'm going to say force RR. It runs on 2.9.2 (afaik) and servers can run it. Provides kudos anti-cheat. Vastly superior to RenGuard.
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #398185 is a reply to message #398171] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 23:34 |
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| Ethenal wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 06:40 |
Nightma is actually quite correct, one thing RenGuard still does perfectly is block advantage skins.
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If you get RG to run, of course. Still no 64bit support.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #398228 is a reply to message #398226] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 07:31 |
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| RTsa wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 16:27 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 09:34 |
| Ethenal wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 06:40 |
Nightma is actually quite correct, one thing RenGuard still does perfectly is block advantage skins.
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If you get RG to run, of course. Still no 64bit support.
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If indeed. I still can't run RG with my Vista 64 bit. Just means I won't be going to servers which still use it.
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Luckily for you, that are not a lot of servers.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: A call for fairness [message #398306 is a reply to message #398074] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 13:34 |
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| Nightma12 wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 12:11 |
RR does not block advantage skins...
RG pure works fine for blocking advantage skins....
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Skill > skins
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