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As a LOT of long-time-players confirm a massiv drop of player numbers in last months + drop of fun (and I agree with this), I have to say too: soon there will be no more need for TT, because Ren is dying.
May be, the split of community n00bstories/EXODUS is reducing the motivation of TT management too....
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| Re: Time [message #397681 is a reply to message #397679] |
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The n00bstories "drama" has nothing to do with TT and has no effect on it at all.
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| Re: Time [message #397701 is a reply to message #397682] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 06:21 |
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| rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 |
If u rly think this, u are naive.
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lol.
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| Re: Time [message #397720 is a reply to message #397706] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 09:24 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 09:30 |
Crimson is probably the only member affected by the split, and she is only PR, so if anything, it explains why there are no updates.
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It's not like there were any updates before the split anyways.. lol
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| Re: Time [message #397723 is a reply to message #397679] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 09:57 |
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| rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 04:13 |
As a LOT of long-time-players confirm a massiv drop of player numbers in last months + drop of fun (and I agree with this), I have to say too: soon there will be no more need for TT, because Ren is dying.
May be, the split of community n00bstories/EXODUS is reducing the motivation of TT management too....
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n00bstories split? 
When did that happen?
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| Re: Time [message #397733 is a reply to message #397679] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 11:55 |
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The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience.
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| Re: Time [message #397741 is a reply to message #397733] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 13:45 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 14:55 |
The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience.
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I wouldn't say it's directly or indirectly competing with us - both mods have some very different goals. We're a UT3 mod, and will probably appeal more to those who have UT3, while TT is a C&C Renegade mod and will appeal to everyone who has played Renegade. I for one will definitely be playing both as both would have a lot to offer.
Though you do have a good point concerning the updates. TT needs to put up constant and official updates every month or so. I'm not talking about input from a random member and things like that, but instead, some actual news threads, podcasts, more pictures, and an official "what's done/what's left to do" list. This is the best way to keep the community tracking your progress, and keep the word spreading & hype growing about this huge C&C Renegade project.
With updates, the Renegade communities and server groups have something to look forward to and a reason to keep their servers up and keep people playing longer than they normally would. Without them, people will lose hope and continue to post threads like this one.
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| Re: Time [message #397758 is a reply to message #397679] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 16:42 |
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A significant amount of people I have talked with don't believe TT will ever be completed, which is a problem because they have no hope for C&C:Renegade's future and thus stop playing it.
I think if there were regular updates this wouldn't be the case.
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| Re: Time [message #397795 is a reply to message #397679] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 23:25 |
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Then again: posting about code isn't really an appealing sight either, compared to the screenshots RenX can post. IMO it's time to start wrapping up what's done and forget about what's not done for the moment. I understand this is difficult, though, due to elements not being separated from eachother.
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| Re: Time [message #397799 is a reply to message #397758] |
Wed, 12 August 2009 23:32 |
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1.) U can type the name of the new community without getting the word substituded by this silly failodus: it's exodus.
There were times people got banned from this forum just for typing the name. Well, may be it will happen again *g*
2.) During the incident Crimson in persona did thought about stopping payment for her servers. n00bstories lost a lot (i would say the majority) of the old players. Ok, now some of them play there again. But it was a dramatic drop in fun, playercount, future perspective for game. So, everyone thinking such incidents will have no impact on motivation of the development team, is naive.
3.) The split of the community produces now a drop in gaming fun. A lot of the old players are now really afraid, ren is dying right now. And this is not the usual blabla about ren dying. If nothings happens rly fast, TT will come to late, if it will be released some day. If....
4.) RenX will definitly be released and will split the rest of the community again.
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| Re: Time [message #397812 is a reply to message #397720] |
Thu, 13 August 2009 02:12 |
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| raven wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 18:24 |
| CarrierII wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 09:30 |
Crimson is probably the only member affected by the split, and she is only PR, so if anything, it explains why there are no updates.
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It's not like there were any updates before the split anyways.. lol
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QFT unfortunately. But one has to understand that there are major technical issues being worked on, which are not exactly exicting to read about 
| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 20:55 |
The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience.
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It's not exactly policy, tbh there is no real policy on anything, except that whatever you commit to svn should be tested and should (appear to) work.
| Goztow wrote on Thu, 13 August 2009 08:25 |
Then again: posting about code isn't really an appealing sight either, compared to the screenshots RenX can post. IMO it's time to start wrapping up what's done and forget about what's not done for the moment. I understand this is difficult, though, due to elements not being separated from eachother.
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Because of the many rewrites (reverse enginering of asm code) and stuff it's rather hard to just release it like that. While it *might* be a little bit faster, it will then also create new bugs which could cause an even faster player decrease.
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| Re: off topic [message #398167 is a reply to message #397679] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 |
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A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up (LOL), Jelly refuses to even respond to me to tell me that he let them have it (real classy). Our player count dropped (on average) 1-2% compared to the month before that but has since recovered and actually increased. We have retrained a few awesome new staff members to replaced the mods that left and now we have another new server up in another awesome game and we're only a couple of weeks away from a whole new website rebuilt from scratch.
Furthermore, n00bstories donated $200 to the RGCT for prizes and much more is on the way. 
As for TT, whenever the guys give me something that you guys will understand, I post it. Rebuilding an outdated game engine doesn't provide much in the way of eye candy. We're trying to keep Renegade the way it was intended to be played without making drastic changes so that it can be a seamless (but awesome) migration.
By design, TT can not possibly split the community in half the way that remaking the game as a mod on another engine would if it came out. Our patch HAS to be an all-or-nothing proposition. If EA makes the patch official, they will only do so if the community is on board with it. It has to be iron-clad. Now, we don't want all our hard work to go to waste, so once we have something we can start beta testing with the players, your feedback will allow us to tweak the patch and fix any bugs that might come up to make you happy, because if you're not happy, it can't come out. Hence, by design, it can't kill the community because it won't come out unless you like it.
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| Re: Time [message #398169 is a reply to message #397701] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 21:37 |
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| cAmpa wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 08:21 |
| rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 |
If u rly think this, u are naive.
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lol.
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ROFL!
Damn fucking n00bstories asshole delaying TT. God damn luv2pb, crimson and andr3w282 and every other admin or mod there not coding faster on TT.
rrutk i'm sad to say old pal but these past 2 threads have turned you into a joke in my eyes
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| Re: off topic [message #398173 is a reply to message #397679] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 21:42 |
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IT'S RAINING SIDEWAYS!
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| Re: Time [message #398177 is a reply to message #398169] |
Sun, 16 August 2009 21:59 |
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| andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 23:37 |
| cAmpa wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 08:21 |
| rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 |
If u rly think this, u are naive.
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lol.
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ROFL!
Damn fucking n00bstories asshole delaying TT. God damn luv2pb, crimson and andr3w282 and every other admin or mod there not coding faster on TT.
rrutk i'm sad to say old pal but these past 2 threads have turned you into a joke in my eyes
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can I have one of those TT avatars pl0x?
ps mah codez r gud
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| Re: off topic [message #398187 is a reply to message #398167] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 00:00 |
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| Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 |
A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up.
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Thats fucked up...
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| Re: off topic [message #398190 is a reply to message #397679] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 01:11 |
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Yeah, it is... but since Jelly owns the serial that the nickname is on, he's the only one who can reset the password but he's been ignoring me for like 2 months. Pretty classy move. Doesn't even have the nuts to tell me that he doesn't want to give it back.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: off topic [message #398191 is a reply to message #397679] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 01:32 |
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I'd say be happy he already lets you use one of those nicks...
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| Re: off topic [message #398195 is a reply to message #397679] |
Mon, 17 August 2009 02:18 |
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I am happy but it doesn't forgive ignoring me. If he's going to give the nick away, why give it to a new community when there are other more established communities that deserve it more?
I'm the bawss.
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