| Liquid Cooling [message #397347] |
Sat, 08 August 2009 17:11  |
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here I go, please if i can get answer form ones who dont spam up every damn post
1) im get a AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
and this mobo
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1740#
do you think i would need liqued cooling since my full tower case has like 13 fans?
2)what do I need? i dont know anything about it but so far I hear something about blocks and radiators and filters or some ***.
3)kinda related to the question above, idk rather to only have a cpu liquid cooling set or cpu and chipset combo that has everything i need
4)can i use anything non conductive that wont short out my cpu, mobo, or chipset if lets say it leaks
5)can i please know ANYTHING else I need to know about it?
6)where can i find where they sell liquid cooling at?
7)does any currently support socket am3? the socket to the cpu im getting above
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397349 is a reply to message #397347] |
Sat, 08 August 2009 17:32  |
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With a good heatsink based cooler, your 955 should do just fine, especially with that motherboard.
As for liquid cooling, I can't give much advice but this thread is a very good guide.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/guides-how-tos/8682-guide-ensuring-painless -water-cooling-setup.html
From what I do know, you really have to know your stuff. In all honesty, unless you're going to be overclocking to the extreme, go with air-cooling. It costs quite a bit of money to pull off a liquid setup, money which could be saved, or used towards a better graphics card, or a Core i7 setup if you need more multi-tasking power.
If you go ahead and use that board with the Phenom II, can you make a post on how well it works for you? I've been looking at that same combination, and would like to know just how great it is. 
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397350 is a reply to message #397349] |
Sat, 08 August 2009 17:34 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 08 August 2009 17:32 |
With a good heatsink based cooler, your 955 should do just fine, especially with that motherboard.
As for liquid cooling, I can't give much advice but this thread is a very good guide.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/guides-how-tos/8682-guide-ensuring-painless -water-cooling-setup.html
From what I do know, you really have to know your stuff. In all honesty, unless you're going to be overclocking to the extreme, go with air-cooling. It costs quite a bit of money to pull off a liquid setup, money which could be saved, or used towards a better graphics card, or a Core i7 setup if you need more multi-tasking power.
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I might over clock, im not sure yet, that mobo even has an oc dial on it. but im not sure yet which si why im learning about LC
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397459 is a reply to message #397457] |
Sun, 09 August 2009 19:37 |
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| Gen_Blacky wrote on Sun, 09 August 2009 19:29 |
i never liked liquid cooling you need a lot of money. also the pump seems to go out really fast.
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so not worth it.?
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397462 is a reply to message #397347] |
Sun, 09 August 2009 20:58 |
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Every review I've seen of the 955 has people getting it in the 3.8/3.9GHz territory with air cooling, and it still maintains good temperatures under load. My buddy has a 720, and he had it at about 3.7GHz with a CoolerMaster Hyper N520, which is a pretty good cooler for the price.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397492 is a reply to message #397347] |
Mon, 10 August 2009 06:12 |
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You should buy what you need and not over clock to avoid damaging your brand new components.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397645 is a reply to message #397347] |
Tue, 11 August 2009 19:30 |
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There is a 'middle-ground' that may be worth considering and it's the 'Corsair H50,' which is a self contained liquid cooling setup that is simple to set up. It does eke out some small gains over big, fan-cooled heatsinks, although it does have some shortcomings, like being limited only to cooling the CPU, and being a bit more expensive.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397900 is a reply to message #397347] |
Fri, 14 August 2009 03:07 |
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Unless you're planning on doing an extreme overclock, there is no real benefit other than for looks/project. I have water cooling -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aklor2rgNwA
It looks pretty sweet, my temps are great and it's fairly quiet. I wouldn't worry about parts leaking as long as you test it properly, ie hook everything up and plug the pump into another computer, or use a jumper so if there is a leak you won't fry anything. There is no such thing as non conductive as far as coolant goes, just use distilled water. It'll be better than any of those fake coolants.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397932 is a reply to message #397921] |
Fri, 14 August 2009 18:14 |
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| Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 14 August 2009 12:06 |
if you don't want to spend a lot of money just buy a decent zalman heat sink. 
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Zalman's aren't good really. OCZ Vandetta 2, Coolermasters Hyper 212, Thermalright or Xigmatech make good stuff.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397937 is a reply to message #397347] |
Fri, 14 August 2009 19:02 |
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I was gonna recommend those new Prolimatech 'Megahalem' heatsinks because they're really taking off, but it seems they don't support socket AM2/AM3. 
Anything by recommended by the dude above me will keep a Phenom 955 nice and cool even when overclocked.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #397943 is a reply to message #397347] |
Fri, 14 August 2009 21:25 |
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Yeah that proligma is by far the best out there, almost better than some watercooled blocks. Shame it doesn't fit that socket though.
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| Re: Liquid Cooling [message #398534 is a reply to message #397347] |
Wed, 19 August 2009 10:18 |
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First off, you don't need any aftermarket cooling at all if you don't plan on overclocking.
Overclocking will not damage your components. You will always be in a situation where it either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't work, that just means it's unstable, not that your pc is damaged. If something is unstable, usually it just won't boot or you'll freeze at some point. What will damage your parts is heat, and with most newer CPUs heat decides how much you can overclock. Just search around for the usual accepted heat levels for your CPU, and make sure you stay below that while overclocking.
If you go with liquid cooling, don't buy a set. There are plenty of overclocking forums with plenty of guides on how to setup a proper water cooling system on your own with individual parts. Make sure you research this a lot before making a decision, because there are always new technology, designs, and methods that are coming out all the time. Make sure you get what's right for you. Also keep in mind that liquid is not a casual setup, it's mainly just used for high level overclocking... or if you live somewhere that the room temp is like 40C all the time. If you're new to overclocking, or don't plan on overclocking at all, you really don't need to waste your money on this. I run an E8400 at 3.6GHz just fine with a big ass aluminum heatsink.
Check http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com There are more, but I like this one personally.
~Canucck
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