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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395607 is a reply to message #395110] |
Sun, 19 July 2009 16:14 |
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R315r4z0r
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1. What does moving large file sizes have to do with anything? Aren't you just storing information? And who says that information has to be large?
Remember when I was talking about Milo? He can recognize colors, sounds, ect.. and reply back to you based on what he's reading. (You can draw a picture, scan it into the game, and he will know what you drew (if its legible, obviously), know the colors used, and be able to converse to you about it.) That's all on an entertainment system. So you don't think that the government doesn't have the technology to make something better than a form of entertainment?
2. What you have in your home computer is barely the smallest fraction of technological power that we, as humans, possess at this point in time.
3. Who says it has to use a digital format that we are currently using or are used to? Why can't it be something that hasn't been shown to the public yet? Something you couldn't begin to think was possible until you saw how simple it was?
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395609 is a reply to message #395607] |
Sun, 19 July 2009 16:34 |
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jnz
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R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:14 | 1. What does moving large file sizes have to do with anything? Aren't you just storing information? And who says that information has to be large?
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If my computer is receiving all that data, where is it going to go?
R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:14 |
Remember when I was talking about Milo? He can recognize colors, sounds, ect.. and reply back to you based on what he's reading. (You can draw a picture, scan it into the game, and he will know what you drew (if its legible, obviously), know the colors used, and be able to converse to you about it.) That's all on an entertainment system. So you don't think that the government doesn't have the technology to make something better than a form of entertainment?
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This milo thing sounds like a simple bot with automated responses. Sure it can find simple shapes drawn on a piece of paper. The thing itself doesn't actually know what it's looking at. It's just comparing pixel locations to some sort of database. The same sort of technique used for sound.
R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:14 |
2. What you have in your home computer is barely the smallest fraction of technological power that we, as humans, possess at this point in time.
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How do you know this? You don't, because there isn't a silly conspiracy that the government has built a matchbox sized computer with 100 teraflops of computing power.
Find me one that is faster than anything on the current market with a budget less than £10K. Again, can't do these silly projects without funding. It would be hard to get any type of funding for this type of project.
R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:14 |
3. Who says it has to use a digital format that we are currently using or are used to? Why can't it be something that hasn't been shown to the public yet? Something you couldn't begin to think was possible until you saw how simple it was?
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It would be all over the news and youtube, since they can't do their job without money. EDIT and again, there is no conspiracy.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395611 is a reply to message #395609] |
Sun, 19 July 2009 17:16 |
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Dover
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jnz wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 16:34 | Find me one that is faster than anything on the current market with a budget less than £10K.
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Find you one? I'll find you one-hundred.
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395614 is a reply to message #395609] |
Sun, 19 July 2009 17:23 |
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Dover
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jnz wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 16:34 | How do you know this? You don't, because there isn't a silly conspiracy that the government has built a matchbox sized computer with 100 teraflops of computing power.
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I just noticed this. I don't know about matchbox sized, but the supercomputers on that list range from about 50 to about 1500 terraflops, so it's not crazy to think about.
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395640 is a reply to message #395639] |
Sun, 19 July 2009 23:13 |
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Dover
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jnz wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 23:06 |
Dover wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 01:16 |
jnz wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 16:34 | Find me one that is faster than anything on the current market with a budget less than £10K.
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Find you one? I'll find you one-hundred.
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They are all clusters. Also in the range of millions of pounds each, much more than £10K.
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Ah. I misunderstood what you said. You meant find something faster, that is also under 10k. I thought you meant find something faster than a 10k market computer. My bad.
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395660 is a reply to message #395612] |
Mon, 20 July 2009 03:41 |
cnc95fan
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DarkKnight wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 19:18 |
jnz wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:34 |
Find me one that is faster than anything on the current market with a budget less than £10K. Again, can't do these silly projects without funding. It would be hard to get any type of funding for this type of project.
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yet if you were to ask that same question 20 years ago you couldn't find a desktop computer for under 10k.
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Errrrm.. The majority of IBM desktops released during the 1980s (don't forget your directly acessing 1989) were well under $10,000
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395671 is a reply to message #395660] |
Mon, 20 July 2009 06:15 |
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DarkKnight
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cnc95fan wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 05:41 |
DarkKnight wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 19:18 |
jnz wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 00:34 |
Find me one that is faster than anything on the current market with a budget less than £10K. Again, can't do these silly projects without funding. It would be hard to get any type of funding for this type of project.
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yet if you were to ask that same question 20 years ago you couldn't find a desktop computer for under 10k.
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Errrrm.. The majority of IBM desktops released during the 1980s (don't forget your directly acessing 1989) were well under $10,000
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I know i miss typed. I meant 50 years ago.
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/recording/computer1.html
My thought is still the same. You can't take what we have today, combine it with no imagination and say we will never achieve anything greater than what we already have as the poster was suggesting.
Look at how far we've come in such little time. Whose to tell what will happy over the next few years.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #395732 is a reply to message #395110] |
Mon, 20 July 2009 18:48 |
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Dover
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You don't need self-aware, really. You just need it to reach a conclusion unfavorable to humanity, and that isn't all that crazy.
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #396354 is a reply to message #396252] |
Mon, 27 July 2009 12:30 |
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Dover
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marcin205 wrote on Sun, 26 July 2009 04:15 | not possible ai in actual stage can make only one operation.
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What makes you say that?
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #396435 is a reply to message #395110] |
Tue, 28 July 2009 11:56 |
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slosha
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Well, I was watching the History Channel the other day. It was something about 7 ways the earth could end, and scientists seem to think machines could kill us all :\
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Re: Is SkyNet Possible? [message #396674 is a reply to message #396673] |
Fri, 31 July 2009 13:45 |
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Dover
Messages: 2547 Registered: March 2006 Location: Monterey, California
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marcin205 wrote on Fri, 31 July 2009 13:39 |
Dover wrote on Mon, 27 July 2009 14:30 |
marcin205 wrote on Sun, 26 July 2009 04:15 | not possible ai in actual stage can make only one operation.
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What makes you say that?
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chat bots ,supercomputers,well military robots they can make shot without operator cuz ai can shot evrything include own units.
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Uh, what?
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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