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In Game Graphics Issue [message #390494] Sat, 13 June 2009 10:02 Go to next message
DarkKnight is currently offline  DarkKnight
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When I'm in game I lose graphics from time to time. Like i see lines when i turn certain ways, its hard to explain. I'm sure someone here knows what i mean.

My Specs:
Windows XP Pro
Directx 9.0
1 gb ram
Radeon HD 2400 Pro (drivers up-to-date)
Scripts 344

Now i just reinstalled windows and the game. I have the core patchs up to date. I didnt have this issue before I reinstalled everything. Before i was using scripts 2.9.2. Don't know if that would have anything to do with this or not.






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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390496 is a reply to message #390494] Sat, 13 June 2009 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think its overheating

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390498 is a reply to message #390494] Sat, 13 June 2009 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i never had that issue before. how do i fix that?

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390500 is a reply to message #390494] Sat, 13 June 2009 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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can you post a screenshot? just to be sure

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390501 is a reply to message #390500] Sat, 13 June 2009 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He may of gotten the same problem - over heated video card

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390512 is a reply to message #390494] Sat, 13 June 2009 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have a 40" fan cooling my pc but it still overheats after a while

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390514 is a reply to message #390512] Sat, 13 June 2009 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmmmm

Cleared any dust from the card? Thumbs Up


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390788 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 16 June 2009 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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some days its really bad and others its not and like i said it didnt have 2 days prior to me reformatting my hard drive.

Here's a screen shot. Was so bad today i couldnt see anything

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390795 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 16 June 2009 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Other games or just Renegade?


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390857 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 16 June 2009 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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only renegade. i played battlefield 2 today and it worked fine. now i never had scripts 344 before til now. could that be causing it?

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390866 is a reply to message #390857] Tue, 16 June 2009 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have that exact same problem, dosent happen often but when it does i noticed its always with the pistol, auto rifle or minigun


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390871 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 16 June 2009 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could be a broken GPU, or overheating, or something else. How long do you play C&C Renegade when it happens, and how long do you play BF2? Try to see if it also occurs with BF2; stress test (just play long) your GPU.

Now, the easiest way to find out if it is caused by scripts 3.4.4 is to see what changes you made, followed by the tearing of textures (it seems).

Did you applied any new settings of BHS.dll (according to the option screen) before it happened? Like putting High Quality shadows on etc. Turn those off, and see if it happens again.

If you didn't made changes to the settings, or it didn't helped, the easiest way to find out if scripts 3.4.4 is the cause of the tearing, is by removing it. Reapply the latest scripts whereas you didn't had the tearing. See if you still get the tearing.

If this doesn't help; a refresh install of Renegade might fix it (BACKUP your skins and other things you want to keep). Reapply the skins (and other things) after reinstalling, and see if it is gone.

If not, I would say it could be hardware failure, especially your GPU. The best thing to find out if it caused by that, is by playing other games (or just Renegade itself) and monitor the temperatures. If those rise really high, it could be a broken fan on your GPU, or a fan in your computer. Try to see if it also happens with other games, you could play them long, or keep your PC running when the game is also running.

To find out if it is a overheating problem: Open your case, remove all the dust, check if all the fans are correctly working. Now, put a huge ventilator (or just a really strong one) at the side of your case. Let it 'cool' your case, by turning it on. Monitor your temperatures, and see if those rise again (too high) and / or that you get the tearing again. You could also check the temperature of your GPU, when your tearing occurs, and try to keep it below this number. Then see if it still occurs.

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390879 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 16 June 2009 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well it is a new install of renegade. I just reformatted my hard drive this weekend. Installed renegade on Sunday.

It happens right away in renegade. I left renegade when that happened and fired up bf2 and it didn't happen. So then I rebooted and went back to renegade and it was fine.

I saved my data files before reformatting so all that is the same. My video card has the latest drivers in it. The only reason I haven't tried scripts 2.9.2 is i wasn't sure if that had anything to do with my graphics.

I've installed 2.9.2. will play later see if it fixes it.


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390884 is a reply to message #390879] Tue, 16 June 2009 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had the same kind of issue with heavy flickering but only when I was pressing TAB to see player info. Though sometimes everytime a nuke or ion goes off, the cloud and rain effect really makes it impossible to see anything due to heavy graphics issues like the SS you posted.

I made a thread here about it:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32463&start=0&rid=2 3998

It was my scripts 3 + my old CRT monitor that was causing all this. But after getting a LCD monitor, I could use Scripts 3 just fine.

If after installing Scripts 3 you experience problems, don't use it...revert back to Scripts 2.


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390913 is a reply to message #390494] Wed, 17 June 2009 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well i put 2.9.2 scripts in and it made my screen black. so i put back in 344 and its working kinda. I really dont want to install ren again unless i have to.



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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390914 is a reply to message #390913] Wed, 17 June 2009 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are getting black screen, it's usually DirectX 9 which you will have to install. But great you got it working...

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #390945 is a reply to message #390913] Wed, 17 June 2009 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Darkknight wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 12:50

well i put 2.9.2 scripts in and it made my screen black. so i put back in 344 and its working kinda. I really dont want to install ren again unless i have to.




Careful Starbuck: if DarkKnight didn't uninstall 3.4.4 correctly (delete sceneshaders.sdb and d3d8.dll)


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #391012 is a reply to message #390945] Wed, 17 June 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 12:26

Darkknight wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 12:50

well i put 2.9.2 scripts in and it made my screen black. so i put back in 344 and its working kinda. I really dont want to install ren again unless i have to.




Careful Starbuck: if DarkKnight didn't uninstall 3.4.4 correctly (delete sceneshaders.sdb and d3d8.dll)



ok i deleted d3d8.dll, the other one doesn't exist. i reloaded 2.9.2 and now its working. will have to see if the weird effects come back.

ty carrier and others who tried to help


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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #391055 is a reply to message #390494] Thu, 18 June 2009 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #392301 is a reply to message #390494] Thu, 25 June 2009 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i switched to 2.9.2 but still having same issue just not all the time now.

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #392340 is a reply to message #390494] Fri, 26 June 2009 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You tried up or downgrading your video card drivers?

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #393086 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 30 June 2009 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes their all up to date. heres some more screen shots. i stood still and was moving my mouse around and took these. then i had someone kill me and my screen never did it again that day. Like i said its only when i play ren.

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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #393087 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 30 June 2009 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this looks like blue hell
Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #393093 is a reply to message #393087] Tue, 30 June 2009 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ErroR wrote on Tue, 30 June 2009 14:34

this looks like blue hell



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Re: In Game Graphics Issue [message #393101 is a reply to message #390494] Tue, 30 June 2009 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I think I know what your problem is.

The hud in Renegade is 2D. The rest is 3D. Your card fails to draw or correctly draw 3D shapes.

Last time I didnt understand that you still have the hud.

To me this indicates that somehow your videocard has difficulties switching to 3D mode. I know the menu has 3D parts but ingame is a full 3D part.

The only way to test this is load up the most heaviest game there is and keep alt-tabbing. If it crashes that means your videocard is dieing. If not it might be something else.

I have had this problem with a crossfire set of HD2900 XT. It appeared that the mainvideocard lost the ability to switch from 2D to 3D which means crash in my case.

In your case it looks asif it is corrupt which could be the 2D/3D draw unit or your videocards memmory.

Try the following:
-Clean the videocard.
-Check your airflow. (I cannot rule out overheating)
-Try alt+tabbing rappidly in a very heavy game. (It will make your pc slow but wont crash it and if it does then your 2D to 3D draw switch on your vidcard died)
-Try boosting the fan speed with Rivatunner.

Hope this helps you out a bit.

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