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Fri, 12 June 2009 20:51

Altzan
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Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 22:31

I get the feeling you only said that because I said it. NO U! Read my post again; I was speaking in moral terms, not in terms of which scientific ideas are true. If you can't see anything morally wrong with threatening people with the most horrific punishment imaginable for the 'crime' of disagreeing with you, then you really, REALLY don't know right from wrong, and I don't think religion ought to be absolved from inflicting this damage upon you.

The pity is irrelevant. You don't care what I think about you, I don't care what you think about me. It changes nothing.

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 22:31

We're back in "the gun I'm threatening you with isn't loaded" territory.

Only if you believe there isn't a gun.

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 22:31

Right... so every time a fossil is found which is older than, say, 10000 years old... (we find these all the time)... it's fake, is it?

Every time geological, archaelogical or astronomical studies show the earth to be very much older than 10000 years old is fake, is it?

The fossils, no. The ridiculous dates? Yes.

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 22:31

Who wrote it?
When?
Why?
How did they know what to write? Is it possible they were lying, or crazy?
Did they see the events for themselves, and if so, is it possible they were mistaken?
Did they instead hear it from other people, and if so, is it possible they were lying, or crazy, or mistaken?

As if you care for the answers other than to ask for prove or debunk them.
Who: Many people. Paul, Matthew, John, etc.
When: Timespan of 2000-400 years ago.
How: Through God. (I can already hear snorts of derision here.)
I imagine they did witness the events.
And, no.

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 22:31

Finally, I'd still like to know how you define "repented". How did you "repent" of these things which, by your own statements, would've sent you to hell?

If it's a private sin, a repentance through prayer.
If public, a repentance made in Church.
And of course, it has to be sincere, not hollow words.

I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker. ~Voltaire

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