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Topic title says it all.

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387483 is a reply to message #387478] Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387486 is a reply to message #387478] Fri, 22 May 2009 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm going to allow this a little longer to become a proper conversation, else I shall deal with it.


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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387498 is a reply to message #387486] Fri, 22 May 2009 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387500 is a reply to message #387478] Fri, 22 May 2009 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah it fucking sucks, good thing is that it's a bug on valve's part and is supposed to be fixed by tonight, or tomorrow.



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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387513 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Kane wrote on Fri, 22 May 2009 16:08

Topic title says it all.

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387516 is a reply to message #387500] Sat, 23 May 2009 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baker wrote on Fri, 22 May 2009 20:18

Yeah it fucking sucks, good thing is that it's a bug on valve's part and is supposed to be fixed by tonight, or tomorrow.



What bug? o.o

[They already fixed it btw {i think}]


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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387518 is a reply to message #387516] Sat, 23 May 2009 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THE SIR MADE A TOPIC!!! ATLEAST! Blush

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I've not unlocked anything yet, but I hear there's hats now, and anything with classy headwear can only be a good thing. Besides, now you don't even have to consider using one of those custom servers that certain undesirable types use to get the achievements.

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387522 is a reply to message #387519] Sat, 23 May 2009 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unlocks in any game is stupid.

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387546 is a reply to message #387519] Sat, 23 May 2009 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try_lee wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 12:24

I've not unlocked anything yet, but I hear there's hats now, and anything with classy headwear can only be a good thing. Besides, now you don't even have to consider using one of those custom servers that certain undesirable types use to get the achievements.

Why's there such a wide rod in CarrierII's bum?


Because my job is to enforce the goddamn rules? :-s

Shoot the messenger, you guys voted on the rules I'm enforcing, FFS.


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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387556 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, instead of grinding achievements out in achievement servers, I now just sit alone afk in my own server. Thanks Valve!!!

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387560 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got anything yet, Baker?

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I got a force a nature that's all. But I did have all of the previous stuff fortunately.

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387566 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So like, what's the deal? I got the free trial of this game yesterday, so what's the difference between the old unlock system, and the new one?

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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387578 is a reply to message #387566] Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 13:11

So like, what's the deal? I got the free trial of this game yesterday, so what's the difference between the old unlock system, and the new one?


Before there were a list of achievements for a certain class that valve would put out along with the new unlockable weapons. To get the new unlockables you'd have to do finish these achievements (aka for the pyro some of the achievements were "set 5 people on fire in 30 seconds" or "Get 500,000 total damage") What ended up happening was people could just go into a achievement server with some friends and crank these achievements out in about 45 minutes to get the new unlockables. Since certain whiny people (msleeper) got really mad and couldn't stand that someone might not have other things to do during the day than play for 8 hours straight getting meaningless achievements, valve decided to change the system

To stop the whining Valve decided that for the new spy/sniper unlocks that came out on Thursday that all the weapons would be completely randomly handed out at random times to random people.

Of course Valve messed the system up and the new unlockables would come once every 100 games, and most of the time people would get duplicates of what they already had. This pissed so many people off that the tf2 forums are now completely filled with pure hatred for tf2.

If you don't believe me just look at the last 10 pages of the tf2 forums and see if there isn't one thread that isn't about the how the new unlocks are messed.



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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387612 is a reply to message #387578] Sat, 23 May 2009 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baker wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 14:38


To stop the whining Valve decided that for the new spy/sniper unlocks that came out on Thursday that all the weapons would be completely randomly handed out at random times to random people.



That's really retarded... So that means you have to play 43 hours a day to get stuff?!


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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387614 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've always thought that they should have just given the new weapons to everyone when they released the updates. Goodness knows we've all paid for the fucking things already; ANY unlock system is going to favor people who have no life and shit-tons of time to spend playing TF2.

The most irritating achievements, IMHO, were the ones that required you to have X amount of Steam friends. I tend to only friend people who I either know IRL or have played with for years and years, so my friends list on Steam is rather short. And what about new players, who have none? Fuck them, they have to go suck strangers' cocks so they can get their achievements. Don't even get me into why I hate the entire concept of achievements in online games in the first place; that's a rant for another time.

That said, the new system SUCKS DONKEY SHIT. Random unlocks? You have to be fucking kidding me. The way it works in TF2, the same way it works in every fucking game ever made, is that people choose a specific weapon/class as their "favorite" and play with that most of the time. The way Valve has things set up now, you could randomly get every single weapon for every class except the one you actually want to be playing. That strikes me as... I dunno, absolutely fucking stupid. At least with achievement-based unlocks, you can work towards the weapons you want and just leave it at that if you don't care beyond that.

If Valve was really dead-set on this new randomized system, they'd have made it so that players were randomly issued credits toward unlocks, not the unlocks themselves. At least then people would be able to choose the ones they actually want. Nevermind that requiring any such fucking thing,in an online game where players could actually be at a disadvantage because they don't have the spiffy shit everyone else has, is a really bad idea.

I'd have expected better of Valve, I really would have. Except that they've been handling TF2 updates poorly since the very first fucking one. I love the game, but the schmucks responsible for brainstorming on the patches need to be shot.


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Re: Fuck the new system to get unlocks in TF2 is gay! [message #387620 is a reply to message #387478] Sat, 23 May 2009 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree tbh. The only reason they have this messed up system is so they can hand out the unlockables to the free-weekenders in hopes of getting them to buy the game because of how fun their new bow is(!!!11!1). I just hope it goes back to a half decent system after this.

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But I'm a free weekender, and I think this sucks. I haven't put in much time, but all I got was one lousy upgrade for the Medic! I don't even use the fuckin' medic! I use the Pyro all the time, and yet I get jack shit to use towards him; what kind of genius dreams that system up!?

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After doing the medic and pyro achievements I decided I didn't want to go through with any of that again so I just used my achievement unlocker. I think the new method when it works will be a lot more rewarding to play and will also stop certain character classes clogging up the servers.
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