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tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386701] Sun, 17 May 2009 15:18 Go to next message
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never really thought about this till just now, whats your take on it?

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386704 is a reply to message #386701] Sun, 17 May 2009 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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An automatic reloading mechanism makes sense for those vehicles.
Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386734 is a reply to message #386704] Mon, 18 May 2009 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. it would alter gameplay
2. irl those vehicles often still need some human intervention to reload.


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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386771 is a reply to message #386701] Mon, 18 May 2009 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tbh i always foudn this a bug

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386823 is a reply to message #386701] Mon, 18 May 2009 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Changing it would alter gameplay. And I don't see any reason to change it anyway..

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386850 is a reply to message #386701] Mon, 18 May 2009 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Art + techie abusing this is a rather tough nut to crack in small games as there really isn't too much one player alone can do about it.

Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386858 is a reply to message #386701] Mon, 18 May 2009 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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makes mrls somewhat bearable in bigger games

Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386881 is a reply to message #386858] Mon, 18 May 2009 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Mon, 18 May 2009 14:27

makes mrls somewhat bearable in bigger games


i always thought of that as a glitch that worked in my favor.


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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386973 is a reply to message #386858] Tue, 19 May 2009 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 00:27

makes mrls somewhat bearable in bigger games

True. Though SBH owns a player abusing it. GDI doesn't have anything to counter the art + tech.


Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #386986 is a reply to message #386701] Tue, 19 May 2009 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about 2 meds?

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387018 is a reply to message #386701] Tue, 19 May 2009 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2 meds can indeed most of the time destroy ONE art and the tech inside (perhaps most of the time without losing one of the meds, depends on the map). But that leaves the other Nod player wreacking havoc with his art. Wink

As an example, on Mesa, an art at the side and in the cave is very troublesome for GDI as it takes two players to push either one back.


Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387068 is a reply to message #386701] Tue, 19 May 2009 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really wouldn't mind seeing it being changed, but it's true that it would impact gameplay quite massively: a lot of people use this to their advantage, mostly with mrls and arts.

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387072 is a reply to message #387068] Tue, 19 May 2009 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 23:34

I really wouldn't mind seeing it being changed, but it's true that it would impact gameplay quite massively: a lot of people use this to their advantage, mostly with mrls and arts.

Or some can be like me and not ever known about this till now Razz
Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387099 is a reply to message #387072] Wed, 20 May 2009 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 20 May 2009 02:48

Goztow wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 23:34

I really wouldn't mind seeing it being changed, but it's true that it would impact gameplay quite massively: a lot of people use this to their advantage, mostly with mrls and arts.

Or some can be like me and not ever known about this till now Razz

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387120 is a reply to message #387099] Wed, 20 May 2009 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would be very sad to see this go tbh... light+rav or light+sak, anybody? =(

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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387165 is a reply to message #386701] Wed, 20 May 2009 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not going due to the fact it would alter gameplay, which isn't the purpose of the TT patch.

Yeah, light + rave/sak is good.


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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387215 is a reply to message #386701] Wed, 20 May 2009 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The gameplay-change plunge was already made when people decided that your pistol should not start out empty, or that your proximity C4 should start out full. Not earning bonus "first blood" points for damaging a green healthed vehicle, suddenly earning points for shooting a vehicle long-since bailed from by the original owner. Quite a slippery slope, although by no means neccessarily invalid changes.

There have been many actual gameplay changes, it's a precedent already set and actually planned for expansion; arguing otherwise in this case is ignorance at best.

I mean, that's without even considering it's an exploit due to an oversight on the original creator's part much like setting a beacon then ditching out of the game was, and that was only addressed due to the widespread bitching-- whereas hopping out and railgunning some people don't even know about, and it's harder to detect. So at worst, it's actually an attempt to preserve an old player's exploit.

Being able to double your light tank's DPS is just as much intentional gameplay design as firing an MLRS through a solid mountain or hopping backwards to confuse Obelisk aiming if you want to get down to it, but don't expect the people who use those "gameplay elements" to admit it.
Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387216 is a reply to message #386701] Wed, 20 May 2009 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not earning bonus "first blood" points for damaging a green healthed vehicle

I like how you described that, LOL.


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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387217 is a reply to message #386701] Wed, 20 May 2009 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I'm pretending it's intentional to compare/contrast it on level footing with the score bonuses available through the tricks at question here. Realistically, I don't think it's too valid and figure most people dont realize it exists as it does (although surely they notice magic sniping pointwhoring happens somehow).
Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387218 is a reply to message #386701] Wed, 20 May 2009 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nune wrote on Sun, 17 May 2009 17:18

never really thought about this till just now, whats your take on it?


I don't get it what do you mean? I was pretty sure that tanks reloaded automatically when you where not in them, except for APC's and Buggys/Hummvees.


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Re: tanks reloading when their is no one in them [message #387265 is a reply to message #387218] Thu, 21 May 2009 02:11 Go to previous message
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MasterEvolution wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 00:34

Nune wrote on Sun, 17 May 2009 17:18

never really thought about this till just now, whats your take on it?


I don't get it what do you mean? I was pretty sure that tanks reloaded automatically when you where not in them, except for APC's and Buggys/Hummvees.


The vehicles only reload while empty if the reload was started when the player was still in.

Chronojam makes a point. And it indeed also works the other way around (=infantry reload while in vehicles if the reloading was started outside).


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