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i was banned for cheating [message #355508] |
Thu, 23 October 2008 02:53 |
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Messages: 1 Registered: October 2008 Location: Canada
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Hello not even sure this is the right place to post but i would like to talk to an admin about the BANN on me plz. here goes awhile back a friend said hey u should try out the big head mode its funny as hell so i did the same day i was banned would like to be unbanned i can still play renegade on loads of servers but i want to have renguard to play so people cant ever say im cheating plzzzz helpppp
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387166 is a reply to message #355508] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 09:39 |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
Messages: 1176 Registered: April 2009 Location: Rìoghachd Aonaichte
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boinky bump
Nah a cheater is a cheater
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, , . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387167 is a reply to message #355508] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 09:40 |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
Messages: 1176 Registered: April 2009 Location: Rìoghachd Aonaichte
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so sorry but getting unbanned for cheater is not possible
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, , . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387171 is a reply to message #387167] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 09:51 |
Pyr0man1c
Messages: 186 Registered: April 2009
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Nice bump AND double post.Anyway he could pay $30 and not cheat again
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
AmunRa | and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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Quotesv00d00 | A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ELiT3FLyR | ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387173 is a reply to message #387171] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 09:58 |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
Messages: 1176 Registered: April 2009 Location: Rìoghachd Aonaichte
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yea
But his dad would pwn the crap out of him for paying $30 and hacking LOL
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, , . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387177 is a reply to message #387173] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 10:21 |
Pyr0man1c
Messages: 186 Registered: April 2009
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Or maybe, just maybe he is an adult
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
AmunRa | and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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Quotesv00d00 | A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
- v00d00
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ELiT3FLyR | ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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Re: i was banned for cheating [message #387185 is a reply to message #387177] |
Wed, 20 May 2009 10:45 |
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Tupolev TU-95 Bear
Messages: 1176 Registered: April 2009 Location: Rìoghachd Aonaichte
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LOL an adult hacking should go back to school
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, , . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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Zeratul2400 | .AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 | everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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