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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383297 is a reply to message #383290] |
Tue, 28 April 2009 18:55 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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slosha
Messages: 1540 Registered: September 2008 Location: North Dakota FTW
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because everyone else doesn't like it.. if some1 finds out ur using a sbh on gdi, they call you n00b and think they're kool
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383307 is a reply to message #383290] |
Tue, 28 April 2009 19:32 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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[NE]Fobby[GEN]
Messages: 1377 Registered: July 2004 Location: Canada
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m00nLiTe wrote on Tue, 28 April 2009 20:55 | The SBH is one of the most popular units in Renegade. However many people hate them. Why is this? Discuss.
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On a map like Field or Under, usually a third of the Nod team is running around with SBHs. Most people just stand around with them and do nothing, in hopes that they could steal an enemy vehicle. In the rare occasion where they do steal a tank, they usually get it blown up or just have it locked in the base.
SBHs can deal a lot of damage if they were actually used in opportune moments, but most people don't do that.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383360 is a reply to message #383290] |
Tue, 28 April 2009 23:22 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Goztow
Messages: 9735 Registered: March 2005 Location: Belgium
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Like a few said above: most people use it incorrectly / at bad timing. A bit like mammoth tanks.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383366 is a reply to message #383290] |
Tue, 28 April 2009 23:42 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Messages: 4121 Registered: May 2007 Location: Riverside Southern Califo...
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1)75% of the team are them
2)the dont do anything excpet wait to steal tanks
3)the weapon whore but dont use the weapons
4)they only attack when your about to die and say how much you suck and call you a noob
5)they act like they the shit
6)they get snipers and whore
7)they refill every damn - 2 hp
shell I go on?
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383397 is a reply to message #383290] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 06:22 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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DarkKnight
Messages: 754 Registered: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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I love the SBH's who tell the team to get down the base defenses so they can go in and nuke em. When instead they could go get a tank and help take out the base defenses then go be an SBH
And if you get your tank stolen by an SBH, perhaps your getting out of your tank some place you shouldn't be. Its very rare an SBH steals my vehicle.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383400 is a reply to message #383398] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 06:42 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover
Messages: 2547 Registered: March 2006 Location: Monterey, California
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Goztow wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 06:29 | Overall it's often better to take the chance of getting your tank stolen one time out of 25, then to not repair at all in the field. The key is to make small repairs, so they don't get too much time to steal your tank and you stay in the green .
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Or to booby-trap your tank. Any unit that can repair can also use remote C4, and triggering your trap is as simple as hitting enter and right clicking. Most vehicles that require frequent repairs (Orcas/apaches/MRLS/Artillery) only need 2 C4 anyway. They can steal your tank, but in the end all they manage to do is give themselves away and give you points (In some high-income maps like Complex and Islands, the points are worth much more than credits used to buy the tank anyway)
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383401 is a reply to message #383400] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 06:56 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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futura83
Messages: 1285 Registered: July 2006 Location: England
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Dover wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 14:42 |
Goztow wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 06:29 | Overall it's often better to take the chance of getting your tank stolen one time out of 25, then to not repair at all in the field. The key is to make small repairs, so they don't get too much time to steal your tank and you stay in the green .
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Or to booby-trap your tank. Any unit that can repair can also use remote C4, and triggering your trap is as simple as hitting enter and right clicking. Most vehicles that require frequent repairs (Orcas/apaches/MRLS/Artillery) only need 2 C4 anyway. They can steal your tank, but in the end all they manage to do is give themselves away and give you points (In some high-income maps like Complex and Islands, the points are worth much more than credits used to buy the tank anyway)
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Yeah, but then you are using up part of the mine limit.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383408 is a reply to message #383401] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 07:21 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover
Messages: 2547 Registered: March 2006 Location: Monterey, California
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insert_name_here wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 06:56 |
Dover wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 14:42 |
Goztow wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 06:29 | Overall it's often better to take the chance of getting your tank stolen one time out of 25, then to not repair at all in the field. The key is to make small repairs, so they don't get too much time to steal your tank and you stay in the green .
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Or to booby-trap your tank. Any unit that can repair can also use remote C4, and triggering your trap is as simple as hitting enter and right clicking. Most vehicles that require frequent repairs (Orcas/apaches/MRLS/Artillery) only need 2 C4 anyway. They can steal your tank, but in the end all they manage to do is give themselves away and give you points (In some high-income maps like Complex and Islands, the points are worth much more than credits used to buy the tank anyway)
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Yeah, but then you are using up part of the mine limit.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a seperate limit for proximity C4 and remote C4?
And anyway, both the maps I mentioned have only 3 buildings and relatively tight entrances, making mines less of an issue than on, let's say City_Flying, or Volcano.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383410 is a reply to message #383290] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 07:27 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Goztow
Messages: 9735 Registered: March 2005 Location: Belgium
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There is, but not standard. Only on servers that have modified the mine limit to have a seperate one for remotes and proxies. In standard ren, the remote and proxy mine limit is 30 all together.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383417 is a reply to message #383360] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 08:01 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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The Party
Messages: 546 Registered: February 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Goztow wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 01:22 | Like a few said above: most people use it incorrectly / at bad timing. A bit like mammoth tanks.
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Agreed.
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Re: SBH, why everyone hates them [message #383421 is a reply to message #383290] |
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Prulez
Messages: 439 Registered: August 2005 Location: The Netherlands
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If used correctly, the SBH is great. If there's a stalemate on Walls Flying, or Nod's being assaulted heavily, I usually grab a SBH and nuke one of GDI's buildings. I succeed around 8 out of 10 times.
Though, 75% of the people with a SBH are like HAY I R KOOL I R INVIZIBAL L!OL!OLO!L!O!l1o1l1ol
nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 | Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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