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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #380976 is a reply to message #380723] |
Sat, 18 April 2009 06:03   |
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BLûεl4βêL
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Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381092 is a reply to message #380976] |
Sat, 18 April 2009 13:41 |
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| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
Check out my C&C Renegade videos!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Shodan234
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381095 is a reply to message #381092] |
Sat, 18 April 2009 13:51 |
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| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381249 is a reply to message #381095] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 03:14 |
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| Hitman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 21:51 |
| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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I see.
Check out my C&C Renegade videos!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Shodan234
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381252 is a reply to message #380762] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 03:20 |
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My aim is good without free aim
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
- v00d00
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381273 is a reply to message #381095] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 06:13 |
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| Hitman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:51 |
| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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pretty gud hitg3k, pretty gud
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381494 is a reply to message #381273] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 09:51 |
Jamie or NuneGa
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| BLuel4bel wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 14:13 |
| Hitman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:51 |
| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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pretty gud hitg3k, pretty gud
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so many people know that, no geekiness in that knowledge
Jamie is a guys name in Europe...
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381496 is a reply to message #381494] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 10:28 |
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| Nune wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 11:51 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 14:13 |
| Hitman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:51 |
| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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pretty gud hitg3k, pretty gud
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so many people know that, no geekiness in that knowledge
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First of all, nobody was talking to you, i was talking to hitman.. Second, hitg3k is how i call hitman, no taking things serious kthx.
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381499 is a reply to message #380831] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 10:33 |
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Yo, how do get your videos in a way that people can choose for HQ @ youtube?
p.s. Could you hook me up with the white walls/ground for walls(flying)?
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381504 is a reply to message #381499] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 10:51 |
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| BLuel4bel wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 12:33 |
Yo, how do get your videos in a way that people can choose for HQ @ youtube?
p.s. Could you hook me up with the white walls/ground for walls(flying)?
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Your solution to all problems is for last retards.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381569 is a reply to message #381504] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 17:14 |
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| rockstar256 wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 12:51 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 12:33 |
Yo, how do get your videos in a way that people can choose for HQ @ youtube?
p.s. Could you hook me up with the white walls/ground for walls(flying)?
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Your solution to all problems is for last retards.
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wth :\
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381572 is a reply to message #381496] |
Mon, 20 April 2009 17:41 |
Jamie or NuneGa
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| BLuel4bel wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 18:28 |
| Nune wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 11:51 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 14:13 |
| Hitman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:51 |
| m00nLiTe wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 15:41 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 08:03 |
Nod rifle = weakest gun in C&C Renegade
Gdi rifle = pretty gud
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I've never noticed the Nod Rifles being weaker than the GDI ones.
I always thought the reason people say GDI rifles are better are becuase Nod have slightly
bigger heads and are easier to kill than the GDI soldiers.
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nod soldiers do 5 bodyshot damage
25 headshot
they also have bigger heads
gdi soldiers do 7 bodyshot damage
35 headshot
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pretty gud hitg3k, pretty gud
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so many people know that, no geekiness in that knowledge
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First of all, nobody was talking to you, i was talking to hitman.. Second, hitg3k is how i call hitman, no taking things serious kthx.
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only morons post 1 to 1 messages on forums kthx
Jamie is a guys name in Europe...
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381687 is a reply to message #381499] |
Tue, 21 April 2009 10:47 |
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| BLuel4bel wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 12:33 |
Yo, how do get your videos in a way that people can choose for HQ @ youtube?
p.s. Could you hook me up with the white walls/ground for walls(flying)?
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You mean snow walls?
Here is texture pack I sorted out.
On youtube it does it automatically as far as I know. As long as you have a high quality video.
Check out my C&C Renegade videos!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Shodan234
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381741 is a reply to message #381687] |
Tue, 21 April 2009 14:15 |
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BLûεl4βêL
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| m00nLiTe wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 12:47 |
| BLuel4bel wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 12:33 |
Yo, how do get your videos in a way that people can choose for HQ @ youtube?
p.s. Could you hook me up with the white walls/ground for walls(flying)?
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You mean snow walls?
Here is texture pack I sorted out.
On youtube it does it automatically as far as I know. As long as you have a high quality video.
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Thanks m00nlite, i appreciate. Could you tell me which files i have to put in data to get my walls(flying) like yours?
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Basic Rifle [message #381805 is a reply to message #380723] |
Tue, 21 April 2009 18:06 |
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Comming from loki, the biggest cheater ever, banned from clanwars.cc for getting caught with rgGh hahaha.
...bow to your #1 ranked warrior
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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