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So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 05:16 Go to next message
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Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.


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s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377983 is a reply to message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any version I get past 2.9 the games main menu doesn't even come up.

So if I can disable 3.x features, will I be able to disable them outside of the game??

Why would they make it required for everyone?
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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377984 is a reply to message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 06:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A lot of the fixes are client side and need scripts 4.0 to work.

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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377986 is a reply to message #377984] Mon, 30 March 2009 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think Saberhawk mentioned some time ago that the shaders stuff that are causing the black screen in 3.4.4 is an additional and optional download separate from 4.0 (but which requires 4.0) so if you don't download that, I don't think you'll have the problems.

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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377987 is a reply to message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sweet, good news. Big Ups
I wonder if there's a beta I could test?


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377990 is a reply to message #377987] Mon, 30 March 2009 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 09:20

Sweet, good news. Big Ups
I wonder if there's a beta I could test?

So does everyone else, and the answer is pretty much always no.


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #377998 is a reply to message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The black screen stuff occuring with 3.x should be fixed in 4.0.

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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378003 is a reply to message #377990] Mon, 30 March 2009 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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u6795 wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:44

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 09:20

Sweet, good news. Big Ups
I wonder if there's a beta I could test?

So does everyone else, and the answer is pretty much always no.



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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378008 is a reply to message #377986] Mon, 30 March 2009 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nopol10 wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 09:13

I think Saberhawk mentioned some time ago that the shaders stuff that are causing the black screen in 3.4.4 is an additional and optional download separate from 4.0 (but which requires 4.0) so if you don't download that, I don't think you'll have the problems.


Not exactly. But the black screen stuff stuff is fixed for sure Razz
Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378039 is a reply to message #377976] Mon, 30 March 2009 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think there is one problem with 3.4.4 or higher which can't be fixed by TT.

Thats for people that use 32MB video cards or lower. I had that card to a while back and when I started a map in Renegade while using 3.4.4 it instantly crashed.

Only when I got a new card (256 MB) it suddenly worked fine Razz

But luckily most people have better cards then 32MB these days, but could still be a problem for some players which doesn't Huh


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378043 is a reply to message #377979] Mon, 30 March 2009 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378046 is a reply to message #378043] Mon, 30 March 2009 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Xpert wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 20:53

Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378051 is a reply to message #378046] Mon, 30 March 2009 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 13:59

Xpert wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 20:53

Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


why
They won't be able to actually do that without EA giving them permission. It'd require a lot of community support and fixes though. He probably doubts it because EA doesn't really give a shit about us.
Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378058 is a reply to message #378039] Mon, 30 March 2009 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Di3HardNL wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 13:09

I think there is one problem with 3.4.4 or higher which can't be fixed by TT.

Thats for people that use 32MB video cards or lower. I had that card to a while back and when I started a map in Renegade while using 3.4.4 it instantly crashed.

Only when I got a new card (256 MB) it suddenly worked fine Razz

But luckily most people have better cards then 32MB these days, but could still be a problem for some players which doesn't Huh

Scripts 3.4.4 works fine for me with NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200, which is about 8 years old. I'm reluctant to believe many people have problems without it turning out to be their own fault by not following instructions properly.
Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378103 is a reply to message #378051] Tue, 31 March 2009 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 21:35

Hitman wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 13:59

Xpert wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 20:53

Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


why
They won't be able to actually do that without EA giving them permission. It'd require a lot of community support and fixes though. He probably doubts it because EA doesn't really give a shit about us.

Actually, from what I've heard EA will help us with this. (Probably because it doesn't costs them anything but still)


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Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378113 is a reply to message #378103] Tue, 31 March 2009 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have actually stopped playing Ren and will only go online after this patch is released (besides I could use a break Tell Me ).

I really hope the patch is made mandatory and EA gives the nod.


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Di3HardNL wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 12:09

I think there is one problem with 3.4.4 or higher which can't be fixed by TT.

Thats for people that use 32MB video cards or lower. I had that card to a while back and when I started a map in Renegade while using 3.4.4 it instantly crashed.

Only when I got a new card (256 MB) it suddenly worked fine Razz

But luckily most people have better cards then 32MB these days, but could still be a problem for some players which doesn't Huh


I have doubts that it was just the memory capacity, if you're going from something with 32MB of VRAM to 256 you're likely going over many other things concerning the GPU, such as VRAM type (GDDRx), shader model, etc.
Re: So when Scirpts 4.0 comes out, is it going to be required? [message #378181 is a reply to message #378103] Tue, 31 March 2009 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 31 March 2009 04:58

BlueThen wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 21:35

Hitman wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 13:59

Xpert wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 20:53

Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


why
They won't be able to actually do that without EA giving them permission. It'd require a lot of community support and fixes though. He probably doubts it because EA doesn't really give a shit about us.

Actually, from what I've heard EA will help us with this. (Probably because it doesn't costs them anything but still)

That's good to know. Smile
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i got 2.9.2 because homey said it's better and got tired of my tank turret spinning slower than everyone elses' and got 3.4.4 again

every time i exited renegade with 3.4.4 the screen would freeze up and sit that way until i hit Esc 20 times and windows prompted me to send an error report (every single time)

it felt to me also that my vehicles got stuck to other vehicles, infantry, and the terrain for no apparent reason a lot more with 3.4.4 on than with 2.9.2

the only thing i do miss is the turrets spinning faster

i have a feeling everything from 3.4.4 is going to be dropped back on my face if and when 4.0 is done Razz


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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 15:35

Hitman wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 13:59

Xpert wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 20:53

Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 08:30

s0meSkunk wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:16

Just want myself to rest assured that I'll still be able to play on all servers with Scripts 2.9 and everything.
Scripts 2.9 is the last version to work properly with my video card.

It will be required for everyone, as it will be pushed through an auto update of Renegade. However, I think you'll be able to disable all scripts3+ related functionalities.



Doubtful...


why
They won't be able to actually do that without EA giving them permission. It'd require a lot of community support and fixes though. He probably doubts it because EA doesn't really give a shit about us.


Ya you were right on it. That's why I doubt it.


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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 31 March 2009 17:29

i got 2.9.2 because homey said it's better and got tired of my tank turret spinning slower than everyone elses' and got 3.4.4 again

every time i exited renegade with 3.4.4 the screen would freeze up and sit that way until i hit Esc 20 times and windows prompted me to send an error report (every single time)

it felt to me also that my vehicles got stuck to other vehicles, infantry, and the terrain for no apparent reason a lot more with 3.4.4 on than with 2.9.2

the only thing i do miss is the turrets spinning faster

i have a feeling everything from 3.4.4 is going to be dropped back on my face if and when 4.0 is done Razz


Well, there is the Black Intel turret/wall lag fix version of scripts 2.9.2, but IIRC the included version of blackintel.dll contains that backdoor dead6re left in there for himself only that would allow him to get a reserved spot or whatever (if anyone knows for sure, correct me if I'm wrong). If you want it, here it is.


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havoc9826 wrote on Wed, 01 April 2009 05:39

liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 31 March 2009 17:29

i got 2.9.2 because homey said it's better and got tired of my tank turret spinning slower than everyone elses' and got 3.4.4 again

every time i exited renegade with 3.4.4 the screen would freeze up and sit that way until i hit Esc 20 times and windows prompted me to send an error report (every single time)

it felt to me also that my vehicles got stuck to other vehicles, infantry, and the terrain for no apparent reason a lot more with 3.4.4 on than with 2.9.2

the only thing i do miss is the turrets spinning faster

i have a feeling everything from 3.4.4 is going to be dropped back on my face if and when 4.0 is done Razz


Well, there is the Black Intel turret/wall lag fix version of scripts 2.9.2, but IIRC the included version of blackintel.dll contains that backdoor dead6re left in there for himself only that would allow him to get a reserved spot or whatever (if anyone knows for sure, correct me if I'm wrong). If you want it, here it is.

The client file is clean, but because in general 3.* is better we don't have 2.9.2 +turret lag fix & wall lag fix listed on our site.
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Most of the nasty hacks that were in 3.4.4 have been rewritten properly for 4.0.


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jonwil wrote on Wed, 01 April 2009 04:47

Most of the nasty hacks that were in 3.4.4 have been rewritten properly for 4.0.



Already? How?


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