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Thu, 05 March 2009 14:47

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Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 21:25

Did you know, when mt st Helen's went off, it put more greenhouse causing gases into the atmosphere then the human race has in its entire existence. Did you know that 3 equally powerful volcanoes go off each year. Now multiply that by 4.5 billion years and explain to me how we still have an ozone layer...

But thats besides the point, has anyone here ever stopped to think how much more sense it would have made if NOTHING (and I mean truly nothing, like space itself (emptiness) not even to exist). Now, science states that matter cannot be created or destroyed, and yet we do exist, which means at SOME POINT in time matter was created. Science claims that the big bang is where all the matter in the universe was at one point in time, and prior to that... maybe the last universe that collapsed? And what about prior to that... my point is that at some point in time, this was all created, and whether it was in a compact ball of matter, or by a god, a bunch of gods, ect. , I can't tell you. But what I can tell you, is that at some point in time, on of sciences most basic laws is WRONG. So, basically we are existing on loaned matter, and I'd hate to be around when it comes time to return said matter Big Ups

So when it comes down to it, I'd rather have a "God" be in control of when all this matter, rather than the alternative none existence randomness that created it, because I'm sure it could just as easily take it away. If one of them was going to take it all away, I'd much rater there be some though fist...

Was that completely off topic? Possibly... Just Remember the scientific standards...
4.5 Billion - Estimate
Evolution - Theory
Matter cannot be Created or Destroyed - Law

And please be open minded Thumbs Up

The big bang actually started as a sort of "energy ball", pure energy. We already know you can convert energy into matter and the other way round.

The ozone layer is not effected by volcanoes erupting, I don't know where you got this from. The ozone layer also plays no part in global warming or the prevention of.

4.5 billion years is an estimate because it's such a high number, It's like saying 3.141 is an estimate of PI. We could easily say that the earth is definitely older than 1 million years at least.

Our laws of physics are not wrong, I can assure you that you have not found the "big flaw" in our science. We don't claim to know "everything" and unlike many religions, we don't make up crazy stories about how we came to be. We base our knowledge on stuff that we can see, observe and cut open. Ask any good scientist how the big bang was triggered and he will say he doesn't know. He could offer you a theory, sure, but he will not state that theory as fact.

Most scientists agree that the laws of physics that we have defined are -only- in our universe. Anything outside our universe may have different laws. Maybe a law that "matter cannot be created" is not the case outside our universe. Maybe a big ball of energy was created randomly outside of us and expanded into matter?

That's even besides the point! How could you believe that someone created the big bang in the first place if "the bible" says it didn't happen?

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