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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374047 is a reply to message #374046] |
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| Ryan3k wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 23:16 |
Java is easiest. You should start there, then move onto a C language.
If you struggle with Java, you'll probably have more trouble with the other languages.
To make a relevant quote, "MASTER USING IT AND YOU CAN HAVE THIS"
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Good info but I was asking what are the mean basic (and I dont mean basic as in easy) language most programmers use and learn
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374057 is a reply to message #374044] |
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What are your intentions? I've found PHP is a very good way to get started. Of course you need a web development background though.
I'm in a C++ university class and I honestly don't pay attention but am passing the class with flying colours. I sit on my laptop all class and so far I've walked into the labs, ignored the instruction just working on the assignment and finished everything no problem. Everything transfers over from PHP. Only a few more details that make C++ a little harder.
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374206 is a reply to message #374044] |
Sun, 01 March 2009 14:46 |
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it all depends what you wanna do
Learn the ideas of algorithms ? ( basic )
Learn fundamental ideas (ex. arrays) ( basic, php, java )
Learn procedural based ? (C language)
Learn object oriented ? (C++, php, and vb.net, java, c#)
Learn syntax ? (java, c++)
Learn performance ? (c++)
Learn how actual programs work ? (depends)
Learn the lower levels (c++, asm)
Client applications? (c++, vb[.net], c#, java)
Web applications? (php, asp, java)
You haven't outlined what you do and do not know. You can just say im going to "learn programming" because theres so many levels to each language and why. Nearly every language can do some form of the other, but it all depends on how and why you want to do it.
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374209 is a reply to message #374206] |
Sun, 01 March 2009 14:52 |
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| andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 13:46 |
it all depends what you wanna do
Learn the ideas of algorithms ? ( basic )
Learn fundamental ideas (ex. arrays) ( basic, php, java )
Learn procedural based ? (C language)
Learn object oriented ? (C++, php, and vb.net, java, c#)
Learn syntax ? (java, c++)
Learn performance ? (c++)
Learn how actual programs work ? (depends)
Learn the lower levels (c++, asm)
Client applications? (c++, vb[.net], c#, java)
Web applications? (php, asp, java)
You haven't outlined what you do and do not know. You can just say im going to "learn programming" because theres so many levels to each language and why. Nearly every language can do some form of the other, but it all depends on how and why you want to do it.
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Well Never knew there were levels of programming but thats why I want to learn i just some are easier then others, But I want to write up codes and make something out of nothing
I mean should I just go straight to what my gaol is (c++) or do you guys think I should start small (java) to see if I get the conecpt and get the hang of it
I would like to write up applications but maybe do some java work since I noticed java comes in handy and especially stuff for like my phone uses all java
So seems like c++ and java is what am probably going to go for
PS thanks for replying
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374233 is a reply to message #374044] |
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I would advise learning C and C++, they are the most widely used languages.
If you want to do web development, go learn PHP, HTML and JavaScript as they are the most widely used for web development.
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374253 is a reply to message #374233] |
Sun, 01 March 2009 19:54 |
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| jonwil wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 17:14 |
I would advise learning C and C++, they are the most widely used languages.
If you want to do web development, go learn PHP, HTML and JavaScript as they are the most widely used for web development.
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Thanks, Which one should be the first one I learn to try to gain the concept...Java?
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374277 is a reply to message #374233] |
Sun, 01 March 2009 21:46 |
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| jonwil wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 19:14 |
I would advise learning C and C++, they are the most widely used languages.
If you want to do web development, go learn PHP, HTML and JavaScript as they are the most widely used for web development.
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I agree to this completely, however it also depends on his experience and ability to problem solve and have patience ( in no way am i calling ssnipe stupid, dumb or anything of the like ) if hes going to self teach himself. To learn something like c++ can be extremely overwhelming unless he takes the absolute baby steps, which is where much easier languages like VB and basic scripting help you learn the principles without having to worry about the behind the scenes stuff. When you really grasp most of the concepts is when you should be concerned about quality and performance which c++ is for.
IDK i still recommend a language like VB to fiddle around with to attempt simple, basic programs. Work on if structures, loops, arrays and user input by doing small simple applications ( like asking a user to enter values then manipulate those values ). Then move in to studying how memory works and how the level of programming languages work. After studying how memory works and the CPU id definately suggest doing a SMALL little bit of ASM, it'll help grasp the ideas of memory accessing and whats actually performed on the lower level. Following this would definately jump into c++ and work with pointers and object oriented.
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374278 is a reply to message #374277] |
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| andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 20:46 |
| jonwil wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 19:14 |
I would advise learning C and C++, they are the most widely used languages.
If you want to do web development, go learn PHP, HTML and JavaScript as they are the most widely used for web development.
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I agree to this completely, however it also depends on his experience and ability to problem solve and have patience ( in no way am i calling ssnipe stupid, dumb or anything of the like ) if hes going to self teach himself. To learn something like c++ can be extremely overwhelming unless he takes the absolute baby steps, which is where much easier languages like VB and basic scripting help you learn the principles without having to worry about the behind the scenes stuff. When you really grasp most of the concepts is when you should be concerned about quality and performance which c++ is for.
IDK i still recommend a language like VB to fiddle around with to attempt simple, basic programs. Work on if structures, loops, arrays and user input by doing small simple applications ( like asking a user to enter values then manipulate those values ). Then move in to studying how memory works and how the level of programming languages work. After studying how memory works and the CPU id definately suggest doing a SMALL little bit of ASM, it'll help grasp the ideas of memory accessing and whats actually performed on the lower level. Following this would definately jump into c++ and work with pointers and object oriented.
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Which is why am asking which should I try to learn first
I mean for example lets say that there is a imaginary language called ssnipe ++ but and its the same ass vb or C# but ssnipe++ is not widely known....so what i mean is if im learn a basic programing language first, which one is one That later on in life will be usefull...like if have better chance of using vb rather then ssnipe++ so like when i get older the knowledge i got from ssnipe++ helped me move onto harder programming language BUT had not need for it but if i learned vb it helped me learn what i needed to go onto harder languages BUT later on it life I could use it later on in life
Get my point? so which shell it be java,vb,c#
Id rather try java tho
also whats a good java book to learn off of?
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374301 is a reply to message #374278] |
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| SSnipe wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 20:54 |
| andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 20:46 |
| jonwil wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 19:14 |
I would advise learning C and C++, they are the most widely used languages.
If you want to do web development, go learn PHP, HTML and JavaScript as they are the most widely used for web development.
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I agree to this completely, however it also depends on his experience and ability to problem solve and have patience ( in no way am i calling ssnipe stupid, dumb or anything of the like ) if hes going to self teach himself. To learn something like c++ can be extremely overwhelming unless he takes the absolute baby steps, which is where much easier languages like VB and basic scripting help you learn the principles without having to worry about the behind the scenes stuff. When you really grasp most of the concepts is when you should be concerned about quality and performance which c++ is for.
IDK i still recommend a language like VB to fiddle around with to attempt simple, basic programs. Work on if structures, loops, arrays and user input by doing small simple applications ( like asking a user to enter values then manipulate those values ). Then move in to studying how memory works and how the level of programming languages work. After studying how memory works and the CPU id definately suggest doing a SMALL little bit of ASM, it'll help grasp the ideas of memory accessing and whats actually performed on the lower level. Following this would definately jump into c++ and work with pointers and object oriented.
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Which is why am asking which should I try to learn first
I mean for example lets say that there is a imaginary language called ssnipe ++ but and its the same ass vb or C# but ssnipe++ is not widely known....so what i mean is if im learn a basic programing language first, which one is one That later on in life will be usefull...like if have better chance of using vb rather then ssnipe++ so like when i get older the knowledge i got from ssnipe++ helped me move onto harder programming language BUT had not need for it but if i learned vb it helped me learn what i needed to go onto harder languages BUT later on it life I could use it later on in life
Get my point? so which shell it be java,vb,c#
Id rather try java tho
also whats a good java book to learn off of?
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Someone also said do python not java lol what you guys think of that?
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| Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374349 is a reply to message #374292] |
Mon, 02 March 2009 04:46 |
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| Ethenal wrote on Mon, 02 March 2009 00:28 |
I'd do C++ before ASM...
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The route I took in terms of what i know went from
visual basic
visual basic.net
procedural php
mirc scripting
vb.net OOP
even more mirc scripting
c++ procedural ( so i guess you can say c)
m68000 ASM to learn memory, registers and the stack
php OOP
c++ OOP
Doing the ASM beforehand made pointers extremely easy
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