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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368023 is a reply to message #368022] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 03:50 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Goztow
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b00tz92 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 11:35 | when will this be released ![Sad](images/smiley_icons/icon_sad.gif)
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It will hopefully not be released because it's an obvious cheat.
/me waits for 50 replies saying the contrary
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368027 is a reply to message #368022] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 04:25 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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I too do not wish to see it released.
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368031 is a reply to message #368030] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 05:02 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Reaver11
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DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40 |
Quote: | when will this be released
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Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.
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And I hope it stays like that.
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368043 is a reply to message #368030] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 06:13 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dr3w2
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DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40 |
Quote: | when will this be released
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Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.
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yup exactly. I have my code in a class and can easily be released, just need to add one line to three different spots in shaderhud .cpp and shaders.cpp -- Exactly the same idea as saberhawks health notice code.
However due to the issue of many people thinking it is a cheat I wont be releasing it anytime soon.
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368081 is a reply to message #368044] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 10:14 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dr3w2
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ErroR wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 07:14 |
andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 15:13 |
DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40 |
Quote: | when will this be released
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Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.
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yup exactly. I have my code in a class and can easily be released, just need to add one line to three different spots in shaderhud .cpp and shaders.cpp -- Exactly the same idea as saberhawks health notice code.
However due to the issue of many people thinking it is a cheat I wont be releasing it anytime soon.
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using it is a cheat too you know..
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theres no global statement that it is a cheat.
And to my knowledge, most servers have not officially confirmed it as being a cheat.
And , ontop of it all, n00bstories has yet to officially confirm it is a cheat, which is the only server i play on.
A lot of people think it is a cheat, and a lot others don't.
**edit***
To further my point on the mixed opinions:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=31482&prevloaded=1& rid=21670&start=0#msg_366174
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368084 is a reply to message #368081] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 10:49 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Genesis2001
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Agreed. It's already available so it's not a cheat >.> It just saves one key-stroke. Only downside is it can clutter your display minimizing your view of the battlefield.
Although...if you could make it so when you press 'K', it shows it on the HUD rather than displaying a whole new screen...that'd be a nice feature. (and compromise imho)
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368088 is a reply to message #368084] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 11:09 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dr3w2
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Zack wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 11:49 |
I haven't been able to figure out keyhooks client side through shaders.dll so that can't be done yet Also thats starting to push into the "toggle" kind of things which would support the argument of it being a cheat
Agreed. It's already available so it's not a cheat >.> It just saves one key-stroke. Only downside is it can clutter your display minimizing your view of the battlefield.
Although...if you could make it so when you press 'K', it shows it on the HUD rather than displaying a whole new screen...that'd be a nice feature. (and compromise imho)
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I haven't been able to figure out keyhook client side through shaders.dll yet... not sure if it is possible. But even still, a "toggle" would be helpful to those making the argument that it is a cheat
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368101 is a reply to message #368022] |
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reborn
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It's also possible to make it with the toggle, similar to pressing "k" so all you see is a black background or something similar with the building health meters.
This in my opinion would be acceptable by almost all peoples standards. But the thing is, I doubt anyone would want it then. The reason they want it is because it's an advantage, implementing it in the manor suggested with a key press toggle would remove that advantage and become less appealing to people.
Even if this version was to be released, it doesn't really matter because the person releasing it would also need to release the source code under the license agreement. That means it could be editted very very simply to not have to press the keyboard, and remove the black.
There's no way with a clear conscience a programmer could release it.
That isn't to say no one will, but it'll come from one of the "shadier" guys (pardon the excellent pun).
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368102 is a reply to message #368101] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 12:31 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dr3w2
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reborn wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 13:24 |
There's no way with a clear conscience a programmer could release it.
That isn't to say no one will, but it'll come from one of the "shadier" guys (pardon the excellent pun).
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Yup , its also not just the idea of the building bars themselves, but that it shows a few techniques that could expand much further then just building health.
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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368115 is a reply to message #368022] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 13:39 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
DL60
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The idea is was born, pushed up and lots of people want it.
It is just matter of time in my opinion until somebody releases it somewhere but I will not be the one, so stop asking me or cAmpa.
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