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| Cabal8616 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 08:07 |
Yeah, XP was pretty damn glitchy when first released too, although the difference is that Vista still is pretty buggy. Even without the bugs, compatibility sucks, and there's too many workarounds to get stuff to work IMO.
Sadly, as I said before, the hatred and bashing of Vista is somewhat necessary, otherwise they'd probably not be working on Windows 7. Believe it or not, the bashing and such is necessary to make a better product out of a mega monopoly company.
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Depends on your computer. XP is still buggy and laggy like hell on this laptop, whereas I have no problems with Vista x64 on here whatsoever.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367332 is a reply to message #367298] |
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| Baker wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 08:09 |
| luv2pb wrote on Tue, 13 January 2009 20:09 |
People are to dumb and/or ignorant to think on their own. Look at all the vista haters. Every one of them is a mindless twat who jumped on the band wagon.
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Couldn't be that vista legitimately sucked when it first came out?
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Sure it had its problems when it came out. Every single windows ever has. I'm talking about the ones that to this day type stuff like VIST SUCKS OMFG or FUCK MICROSOFT THEY R GAY. You know the ones. They have either have no fact for their opionion they just jumped on the bandwagon or they were to stupid to use it right.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367337 is a reply to message #367336] |
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| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367352 is a reply to message #367128] |
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Vista is still too much of a system hog, has too many backwards-compatibility issues, and still includes too much DRM and too much handholding. That's why I bash it, not because of the bandwagon- because, while it functions smoothly now, it is still a bad product. In my own humble opinion.
But that's another thread. Several of them, actually.
To its credit, Microsoft is very diligent about patching, and I can't recall ever having been charged for anything that should have been free. XP, as wonky as it was back when it came out, is running like a finely tuned perpetual motion machine these days; I haven't had a hiccup that wasn't caused by third-party software or user error for years now. They also used to make some damn fine joysticks, and I've never found a mouse that made my hand happy quite like the IME3. Big business does, quite often, get it right- but they just as often get it wrong, and when they do they're more likely to try to smooth over the failure than admit to it and try something different.
They (big buisiness in general, not just MS) also like to release similar products over and over with minor tweaks and changes- which is what EA is mainly guilty of. For examples of that, you need only look as far as The Sims or any of their licensed sports titles. Toymakers do this a lot as well, especially the ones who are big on dolls- they'll release a particular set of clothing that may only be had through the purchase of a whole new doll rather than as part of an accessory pack. You see a lot less of that kind of thing with smaller companies and independently-owned companies because they have to constantly innovate or get plowed under. On the other hand, much of the reason why smaller companies tend to be more innovative is because the larger ones aren't; if they didn't have that giant steamroller chugging along at their heels they might not be so motivated to move forwards.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367368 is a reply to message #367128] |
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My biggest gripe is that i actually worked for a big business...
GE was the company and not many companis are bigger than they are. While I apreciated the work and their investment in my community a very alarming trend has developed within the site I worked at as well as other electronic manufacturing companies.
GE was the worst as they took imported labor off the boats from communists countries and actually made them "Specialists", instead of the more revelant term "Communists" which basically means crporate spys, not the corporate spys u r thinking of but rather spys who spy on and tattle constantly on their co workers.
Luckily I got out of that corporation 3 yrs ago and am now unemployed but can at least move around freely without holding my breath and go to the store with out some GE communist screaming at my back, temping me to join a civil war against this communism.
u du da thinkin' and i'll do da drinkin'
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367417 is a reply to message #367386] |
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| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 08:46 |
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 16:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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you don't know about red light?
ask other people
in thailand they play wii,ps3,xbox 360 1,2,3
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Of course I know about the Red Rings of Death, I've even experienced it, but it's fixable and although it's a pain to deal with it's not an end-all.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367419 is a reply to message #367128] |
Thu, 15 January 2009 13:08 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 12 January 2009 22:08 |
I like EA and semi-like Microsoft. (Maybe if they didn't charge me double the amount for Xbox live and then continue to charge me until I bought another month...)
However, as said above, especially in the gaming industry, the more companies you control, the more fans you have to please, and thus the more generic "everyone gets what they want" kind of games come out.
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Ya big companys like that chagre a great deal, your second point makes sense
| Xylaquin wrote on Tue, 13 January 2009 01:28 |
people don't like microsoft, or more-over, Windows because they're dumb and can't work computers.
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Besides apples there no other type of OS really besides maybe a few more that home users can really use I guess which is why they use windows
| danpaul88 wrote on Tue, 13 January 2009 01:37 |
I have no issues with Microsoft, their products are generally of a high quality and fairly stable. Their Visual Studio line of products in particular are very impressive and I have yet to find any other IDE which rivals it in terms of integration and usability.
Most of Microsofts products are let down by third party code, particularly their operating systems. Vista in particular is plagued with buggy or non existant driver support from hardware manufacturers, and often gets the blame for things which are not actually it's fault, such as poorly written drivers and applications. People are too quick to lay the blame at Microsofts door because it happens to be the most obvious target to blame.
As for EA, I object to their treatment of the C&C franchise and their continued efforts to completely and utterly destroy everything it once stood for. However their other games are often very good (even if, sadly too often, heavily laden with DRM) and I have no intention of boycotting their entire product portfolio.
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I also hate how they fucked up the cnc world but if lets say cnc was made in the way they wanted it to the new cnc games are still pretty fun for what they have planned
| NukeIt15 wrote on Tue, 13 January 2009 13:07 |
The best reason I can think of is that, when a company reaches a certain critical mass, it no longer needs to ask its customers what they want... instead, it begins telling its customers what they want. Smaller businesses depend more heavily on the good graces of their customers, and are thus more strongly compelled to provide quality services in order to retain those customers. Big business knows that it can do just about whatever it damn well pleases and, unless it gets really unlucky, enough people will buy the product anyway because it is cheaper or more widely known.
I don't *really* hate the business for being what it is; I hate the customers for not being smart or motivated enough to force it to change. I strongly dislike certain companies, but in the end they're really just looking out for their own skins. The customers are responsible for creating an environment in which parasitic, unethical businesses may thrive and grow rather than dying on the vine.
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So its kinda like they buy what ever they get so micosoft can sell what ever they want?
| Saberhawk wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 05:38 |
| Baker wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 07:09 |
| luv2pb wrote on Tue, 13 January 2009 20:09 |
People are to dumb and/or ignorant to think on their own. Look at all the vista haters. Every one of them is a mindless twat who jumped on the band wagon.
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Couldn't be that vista legitimately sucked when it first came out?
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Vista worked surprisingly well at launch compared to the last major consumer operating system Microsoft released (Yes, I'm talking about XP)
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Maybe cause you have a pc that can handle it
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 14:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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hell if its like me any system will be good but fuck now I want ps3, even tho iv seen tons of vidoes comapring the 2 they said 360 has better grpahics while ps3 has more features whats you guys think?
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 11:46 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 08:46 |
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 16:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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you don't know about red light?
ask other people
in thailand they play wii,ps3,xbox 360 1,2,3
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Of course I know about the Red Rings of Death, I've even experienced it, but it's fixable and although it's a pain to deal with it's not an end-all.
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if I get the three rings of hell what can i do to prevent it? and if it does happen how much does it cost to fix it?
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367422 is a reply to message #367128] |
Thu, 15 January 2009 13:23 |
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Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:23 |
Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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Does a warranty come with it, or do you have to buy one
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367424 is a reply to message #367423] |
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| SSnipe wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 15:39 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:23 |
Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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Does a warranty come with it, or do you have to buy one
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There's a warranty that comes with the xbox originally I'm pretty sure, but it expires after like a year or two, I suppose you can probably renew it for a charge but I don't know.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367430 is a reply to message #367424] |
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| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:43 |
| SSnipe wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 15:39 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:23 |
Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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Does a warranty come with it, or do you have to buy one
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There's a warranty that comes with the xbox originally I'm pretty sure, but it expires after like a year or two, I suppose you can probably renew it for a charge but I don't know.
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Dang I dont think i have a box or receit if that were to happen
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| mǻdrãçķz wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 16:52 |
Go Die with the crap PS3, XBOX has DAMN FUCK MUCH SUPPORT, you can even get a fre 512MB Card for free if you have an XBOX. And much more like a totally new Menu etc.
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PS3 is a pretty solid console, but I'm with you all the way man. 360 is the way to go for awesome shit like the new xbox experience. Netflix? On MY xbox? It's more likely than you think.
Sure, the avatar system may be a ripoff of the Mii thing but hey, fuck your shit yo, seXbox for life!
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| mǻdrãçķz wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 13:52 |
Go Die with the crap PS3, XBOX has DAMN FUCK MUCH SUPPORT, you can even get a fre 512MB Card for free if you have an XBOX. And much more like a totally new Menu etc.
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How can i get a free card for it?
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367471 is a reply to message #367417] |
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| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 11:46 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 08:46 |
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 16:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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you don't know about red light?
ask other people
in thailand they play wii,ps3,xbox 360 1,2,3
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Of course I know about the Red Rings of Death, I've even experienced it, but it's fixable and although it's a pain to deal with it's not an end-all.
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it can repair?
other people tell me if red light happen
you never can repair it
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| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 22:00 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 11:46 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 08:46 |
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 16:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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you don't know about red light?
ask other people
in thailand they play wii,ps3,xbox 360 1,2,3
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Of course I know about the Red Rings of Death, I've even experienced it, but it's fixable and although it's a pain to deal with it's not an end-all.
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it can repair?
other people tell me if red light happen
you never can repair it
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yes you can but im drifting off back to topic?
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| SSnipe wrote on Fri, 16 January 2009 00:01 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 22:00 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 11:46 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 08:46 |
| u6795 wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 16:37 |
| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Wed, 14 January 2009 17:17 |
a lot of people hate micrisoft because xbox360
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The 360 is fucking awesome! What do they play over their in Thailand?
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you don't know about red light?
ask other people
in thailand they play wii,ps3,xbox 360 1,2,3
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Of course I know about the Red Rings of Death, I've even experienced it, but it's fixable and although it's a pain to deal with it's not an end-all.
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it can repair?
other people tell me if red light happen
you never can repair it
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yes you can but im drifting off back to topic?
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you send it to microsoft?
but other people buy xbox360 and live in another country can't send it to microsoft
after they found red light may throw it to bin
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| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 14:43 |
| SSnipe wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 15:39 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:23 |
Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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Does a warranty come with it, or do you have to buy one
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There's a warranty that comes with the xbox originally I'm pretty sure, but it expires after like a year or two, I suppose you can probably renew it for a charge but I don't know.
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you buy ps3 if broken you can repair it
but if you buy xbox360 and found red light and your warranty expire you will throw it to bin and other people have xbox360 and live in another country can't send it to microsoft
xbox360 very suck
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367836 is a reply to message #367826] |
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| VIOLENT DAUGHTER wrote on Sun, 18 January 2009 21:43 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 14:43 |
| SSnipe wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 15:39 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2009 12:23 |
Well, the main reason I like the 360 is the games just appeal to me. Halo 3 and Left 4 Dead are just amazing. Not sure if L4D is on other consoles but it's great on Xbox live.
Also, you could try the towel trick as a temporary fix to your 360 BUT I highly recommend against it as it can cause more lasting damage. Usually they want you to send your xbox in to be repaired, or they'll give you a new one, provided your warranty hasn't expired.
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Does a warranty come with it, or do you have to buy one
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There's a warranty that comes with the xbox originally I'm pretty sure, but it expires after like a year or two, I suppose you can probably renew it for a charge but I don't know.
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you buy ps3 if broken you can repair it
but if you buy xbox360 and found red light and your warranty expire you will throw it to bin and other people have xbox360 and live in another country can't send it to microsoft
xbox360 very suck
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And Sony's warranties DON'T expire? Sony sucks just as much as Microsoft. Maybe even more, because they're Japanese.
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| Re: Why do people hate big business? [message #367859 is a reply to message #367128] |
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After like, 16 years, my SNES still fires up like it's brand new. Now that's quality.
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