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Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 03:20 Go to next message
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Hello my fellow renegaders. This is quite possibly the wrong place to post it, but i'm going to do it anyways.

I have a bit of a problem with scripts.dll. So far the people I've asked haven't been able to help me so now i bring it to you guys here on the forums in the hope of getting it solved.

On my laptop i'm running vista. I have scripts 3.44 installed. I have a scripts folder in both the "renegade" folder, the "data" folder, the "level edit" folder and the "mod" folder in leveledit. Now despite all of this, i can't see any scripts in level edit. This is quite a issue for me as my other pc is packed away (and stationary so i can't really bring it around) and i need access to said scripts.

Any idea what could be causing it ? I'm thinking it could be vista securiy, but i am running level edit as administrator.

Thanks in advance.


Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367373 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you using Jonwil's version of leveledit?
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367375 is a reply to message #367373] Thu, 15 January 2009 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^tried both his and the regular one. Same result.

Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367377 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 05:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did you put them in a special folder within the mod folder, named "Scripts"? Or did you just plop them in there? I think it requires a folder named scripts.

Also, do you use TFD?


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Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367378 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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According to his explanation, I think he forgot to create a scripts folder within his mod folder.
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367380 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Use jonwils leveledit and put the scripts.dll and bhs.dll from scripts.dll 3.4.4 into the Renegade folder with game.exe. No subfolders, no copies in any subfolders, nothing. Just that one place.

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Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367383 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does Jonwil's Level Edit detect it for TFD too, though? That's what I'm assuming is the problem, and why Jonwil's LE won't work for him.

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Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367385 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just make sure that the registry key HKLM/Software/Westwood/Renegade/InstallPath points to game.exe (including the name of the exe in the path) and LevelEdit will be able to read the location correctly and locate the scripts files.

If that doesn't help remember to run everything and anything Renegade related in Admin mode to ensure they are all reading from the same place, and not from some VirtualStore location or another.


(Path correct as far as I can remember, but as I am at work at the moment I cannot double check)


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Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367387 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is the registry structure:

===========================

\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
-\ SOFTWARE
--\ Westwood
---\ Renegade
---#Installpath

===========================

\ < folder
# < value
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367390 is a reply to message #367371] Thu, 15 January 2009 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont think it has to do with that stuff.

If you run leveleditor without administrator rights it cannot use the c:\program files\leveledit folder to modify or save or mayby use scripts.

What you can try is the following. Inside the your user (Where windows stores documents/downloads etc) There is a folder called app data mayby it needs to unhidden not sure.

This should contain a virtual store folder. Basically this is the storage folder for any program that tries to modify or add stuff in program files. In there should be a near exact tree of the one in program files but then with data that programs store. (Basically programs that store stuf inside their folder in program files isnt good).

In the virtual store should be your leveledit modpackage and all the other modified data. Leveledit also uses this folder to save stuf!

I would try to install the scripts in there. (It is just the same as you would do normally but then in the virtual store)

Or you could try to run level edit with admin rights but that might cause unwanted problems when you run it without it.

I hope this makes it a bit clear for you if not just respond.

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Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367490 is a reply to message #367371] Fri, 16 January 2009 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey guys.

@Cabal8616 and Nero
Both. I both put them in a folder called scripts and left them hanging around in the main folder. I also tried just having them in a folder which didn't change anything either.
Like i said in the op i made a scripts folder in both the main renegade directory, the data folder, the mod folder and the level edit folder. Just to be on the safe side.. which aparently didn't help .. damnit

@ danpaul88
Also had them there
Oh and the registry points to the correct folder but the "renegade.exe" file and not game exe. I tried changing it but with no result.

By the way i am running the original renegade and not the first decade.

@Reaver11
I tried doing what you said, it made no change. In the local\virtualstore\publictools folder i put the scripts and in the mod folder created with this¨

So yeah. I have no clue what is causing this but it's pretty important I get it solved >_< Appreciate the help.
I've got some pics

Mod folder:
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4350/modfolderfg3.png

Renegade Folder:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2406/renfoldertl3.png

Registry:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7259/registrationri9.png

The Scripts:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8/scriptsye0.png


Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367491 is a reply to message #367371] Fri, 16 January 2009 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you tried reinstalling leveledit or renegade?

A clean installation solves such problems for 90% of the time.
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367494 is a reply to message #367371] Fri, 16 January 2009 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i've just reinstalled the renegade tools into a folder where vistas security isn't like it is in the program files folder (in other words where you don't have to confirm twice everytime you want to do anything) aand..

Holy shit. It worked XD

I'd never guessed that it would be something this simple.. i was certain i had to have done something wrong.. well i guess not Razz

Thanks a lot for the help and suggestions. XD


Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367495 is a reply to message #367371] Fri, 16 January 2009 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're welcome Listen
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367524 is a reply to message #367371] Fri, 16 January 2009 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No problem, hmm weird thing is that worked with my leveledit.
Re: Hello ! Scripts doesn't show up in vista? [message #367528 is a reply to message #367494] Fri, 16 January 2009 10:52 Go to previous message
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Now that I read it for a second time...I think I might know the problem with your Program Files folder. Vista is using the UAC (User Account Control) which only allows people with administrator right to change certain things within certain folders (like systemroot, program files etc).

The thing to do here to use leveledit while it's in your program files folder, is to disable the UAC function. To do this go to:
Control Panel > User Accounts > Enable/Disable Account Management (it's the bottom option) > Uncheck the box and save settings.

Now vista will shut up about certains things. It will no longer pop-up those annoying boxes you get when you try to copy files to certain folders and some more stuff. (Most likely you won't have to start applications as administrator since the restrictions have been removed)


Edit: It would be handy if someone stickied this post for future reference. There are still a lot of people who don't know how to solve things in vista.

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