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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363924 is a reply to message #363923] |
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| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
Since I am so egocentric
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I'm the egocentric one? You're the one desperately trying to convince people how great you've been to this game, in spite of all the evidence pointing the other way. I couldn't really care less about anybody's opinion of me, so long as the job gets done.
You wouldn't understand.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
you must understand that the reason why you are such a terrible person is because you criticize me.
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No, there's nothing wrong with criticising me, I wouldn't treat someone unfairly for simple criticism as long as it was made honestly and objectively, and as long as I had a platform to respond in my defence, which I would be sure to use.
In your case, I may as well just repeat my post from page two.
a lot of people (including me) wouldn't say I am "old school" as far as ren goes, but for some reason null named myself and crimson as the two people he "missed from the old days"... so how were the old days, hmmm? my knowledge of null/slavik/yoshimitsu can be summed up in three brief points.
1. used to be in WSE, the pricks who brought cheating to renegade in the first place. in null's own words: "the purpose of WSE was to fuck up the game as much as possible"
2. first point at which I heard of him personally: turned out he was seriously plotting to ddos attack the official renegade servers.
3. first point at which he involved himself with me: he went to EA and told them some bullshit lies about how I ddosed some renegade community sites, including this one right here... utterly made up of course, and pretty ironic considering the source. I busted him lying on all this, and his only response was the bizarre statement that he "was not going to be blackmailed"... (huh?)
so... in his rant to luv2pb he whines on and on about people who don't know or care who he is... if I'm one of the people who does (according to him...) then that's gotta be a good thing, considering the entire extent of my knowledge of null is three things, all of them very, very bad.
yep, "you're a terrible person for criticising me"... my word, it beggars belief how stupid you are. I've made my criticism of you perfectly clear, and you've shown yourself completely unable to refute any of it.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
I gave a shit, so therefore you didn't give a shit.
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Like I said, you keep trying to convince everyone you're the saviour of Renegade. You keep saying your project was so much better than mine. It's a perfectly valid rebuttal for me to point out that your project was an unmitigated failure, whereas mine was actually more successful than the original WOL clan ladder. Of course, I would not expect you to know that, considering your complete lack of knowledge of anything to do with clans in this game.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
Even though I said that your existence means nothing
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Please quote me where I said that?
What I said was you really haven't done anything good for the community. This was in response to your endless whining about how much good you've done and your bitterness at people like luv2pb. Why you mentioned me is still a bit of a mystery to me, considering the humiliation you suffered the last time around, but oh well, figured I may as well give a quick summary of everything I know about you in regard to this game, all of which was bad.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
you have solely caused a series of bad things in the community.
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Well, I'm not sure about "solely", but this seems a good time to repeat my post from page two again.
my knowledge of null/slavik/yoshimitsu can be summed up in three brief points.
1. used to be in WSE, the pricks who brought cheating to renegade in the first place. in null's own words: "the purpose of WSE was to fuck up the game as much as possible"
2. first point at which I heard of him personally: turned out he was seriously plotting to ddos attack the official renegade servers.
3. first point at which he involved himself with me: he went to EA and told them some bullshit lies about how I ddosed some renegade community sites, including this one right here... utterly made up of course, and pretty ironic considering the source. I busted him lying on all this, and his only response was the bizarre statement that he "was not going to be blackmailed"... (huh?)
so... in his rant to luv2pb he whines on and on about people who don't know or care who he is... if I'm one of the people who does (according to him...) then that's gotta be a good thing, considering the entire extent of my knowledge of null is three things, all of them very, very bad.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
While I realize all this is logical fallacy
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That explains your absolute failure to refute a single word of it, humiliating yourself rather amusingly (again) in the attempt.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
I'm going to go ahead and continue talking about it, just as I did 2 years ago
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again, it apparently needs repeating that you're the one who came out of nowhere and pitifully tried to convince everyone how much you've done for the community. Don't cry just because I checked your facts and embarrassed you in front of everybody.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363925 is a reply to message #363458] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 02:52 |
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Sure thing, here you go!
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:21 |
a simple fact check puts you somewhere below 0x90.... the point is what the hell does that make YOU?
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Checking facts? I think your way of checking facts is more like making yourself feel that you are the facts incarnate.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363926 is a reply to message #363925] |
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And yet again you can't refute a single thing I said, and yet again you dodge the point you were wrong about a great many things, and yet again you dodge the fact you were caught lying again.
Do yourself a favour, quit while you're behind. I know you're desperate to gain some respect around here, and I know you're furious at me for pointing out why that's highly unlikely to happen, but take a quick time out. Ten seconds' thought on your part would show you that the reason nobody here gives a shit about you is because you've never given anybody a reason to, and because you've given plenty of reasons not to.
Well, I say ten seconds... in most peoples' case that would be true. In your case it's been several years and still counting.
Either do something good for the community (for the first time, and see if you can compensate for all the bad you've done to this community), or quit acting like anyone is supposed to give a shit about you.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363928 is a reply to message #363458] |
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Spoony's credibility is a lot higher than yours is at this moment, null. Must have something to do with the input he has had in the Renegade community for the last years while almost noone here actually even remembers you.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363931 is a reply to message #363927] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 03:18 |
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| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:05 |
I recognize that simply because I can't refute your silly arguments to your liking does not validate your arguments at all. Sorry.
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You can't refute them at all. You've tried, and failed abjectly... that says more than you realise.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:05 |
Why don't you take a break and bring some actual facts (logs, screenshots, etc) supporting your evidence (evidence of what, you have still yet to explain, by the way).
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sorry, which part of this are you disputing?
1. used to be in WSE, the pricks who brought cheating to renegade in the first place. in null's own words: "the purpose of WSE was to fuck up the game as much as possible"
2. first point at which I heard of him personally: turned out he was seriously plotting to ddos attack the official renegade servers.
3. first point at which he involved himself with me: he went to EA and told them some bullshit lies about how I ddosed some renegade community sites, including this one right here... utterly made up of course, and pretty ironic considering the source. I busted him lying on all this, and his only response was the bizarre statement that he "was not going to be blackmailed"... (huh?)
point one, see: "in null's own words"
point two, YOU POSTED LOGS OF IT YOURSELF, REMEMBER? jesus.
point three, you've already affirmed it in this very thread. What's hypocritical is when you went to Apoc and lied about how I supposedly ddosed the renegade forums, you didn't post any evidence. Indeed, how could you, because you were lying. And you still don't have the balls to retract your pathetic accusation with an apology, which says a great deal about you.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:05 |
You must be so pleased that people willingly agree with what you say, having not the slightest clue or single notion of who you were and how YOU imposed yourself on the community.
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Um, ok... nobody has the slightest clue who I am, whereas you do. That explains the fact that every single thing you've tried to say against me has been wrong.
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Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that Spoony went above Crimson's head to Apoc and pissed and moaned til he got his way.
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I don't know why I have to repeat really simple things to you over and over again. My complaint to Apoc was perfectly legitimate. You've already said it was some nonsense about "not sponsoring Clanwars.cc", which shows YET AGAIN that you have no absolutely idea what you're talking about.
And yet again, if making a legitimate complaint to Apoc is such a terrible thing, then what does that make you? Considering the fact that you made a complaint to Apoc in which,
wait for it,
YOU WERE LYING?
REMEMBER?
YOU WENT TO APOC AND YOU LIED TO HIM, SAYING I DDOSED THIS SITE?
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363934 is a reply to message #363931] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 03:26 |
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The rest of that quote was "until EA would fix the game." points for taking that out of context.
In my post to EA, I never said "Spoony DDoS'd community sites" In fact I said that after you confronted Renforums, there was a series of DDoS attacks. I never said you did them, lol.
As far as you "busting" me about lying, I have yet to see any lies here.
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sorry, which part of this are you disputing?
1. used to be in WSE, the pricks who brought cheating to renegade in the first place. in null's own words: "the purpose of WSE was to fuck up the game as much as possible"
2. first point at which I heard of him personally: turned out he was seriously plotting to ddos attack the official renegade servers.
3. first point at which he involved himself with me: he went to EA and told them some bullshit lies about how I ddosed some renegade community sites, including this one right here... utterly made up of course, and pretty ironic considering the source. I busted him lying on all this, and his only response was the bizarre statement that he "was not going to be blackmailed"... (huh?)
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Not a log, link or screenshot. That looks like you still havn't done your homework quite yet. Try again though.
The best part about arguing with you is that you try to misconstrue my words so that it somehow barely supports what little, weak argument you have:
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null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:05
You must be so pleased that people willingly agree with what you say, having not the slightest clue or single notion of who you were and how YOU imposed yourself on the community.
Um, ok... nobody has the slightest clue who I am, whereas you do. That explains the fact that every single thing you've tried to say against me has been wrong.
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Lets try to solve this one:
Change the tense of null's statement from past to present to give the impression that I said that nobody knows who you are -> That explains that everything I've said has been wrong.
That makes a lot of sense. 
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363936 is a reply to message #363934] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 03:45 |
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| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:26 |
The rest of that quote was "until EA would fix the game." points for taking that out of context.
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People who make and distribute cheats tend to say this. Cyberpunk said it all the time. He really didn't realise what a brainless prick it made him look, and evidently neither do you. If anything, trying to justify the act makes it even more pathetic.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:26 |
In my post to EA, I never said "Spoony DDoS'd community sites" In fact I said that after you confronted Renforums, there was a series of DDoS attacks. I never said you did them, lol.
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You're lying again. You accused me of the ddos attacks in the same sentence as your condemnation of me "speaking out" against the Renegade community (the latter being partly true, if a little decontextualised considering the fact that I was complaining about MY WEBSITE BEING HACKED)
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:26 |
Not a log, link or screenshot. That looks like you still havn't done your homework quite yet. Try again though.
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Sad, bleating little sheep... who cares that it's all true, what matters is there were no logs posted!
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:26 |
Change the tense of null's statement from past to present to give the impression that I said that nobody knows who you are ->
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Then go ahead and fill everybody in!
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363938 is a reply to message #363458] |
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Unless the dialect of english that you speak is different than mine, or we are in two different universes, I can't imagine how you could derive those thoughts from what I said.
Also, if you're going to argue, you can't have a double standard for presentation of facts as you have adopted. Since you can't read, let me express this in simple terms. If you expect me to present facts, when countering my arguments, you too must present facts. You have failed to do this after me asking since page 3 "What have I done?"
Your arguments go like this
-Quote taken out of context here-
Heres what the quote means taken out of context. This out of context quote along with my skewed interpretation of it proves that null has the intellect of a child.
When I retort, you just simply say "no lol" and then replace the quote taken out of context with my retort.
I really can't argue with somebody who keeps doing what I outlined above. I replied, like you wanted me to. Now I'm going to go back to doing what I said on page 1, not hearing from me again.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363941 is a reply to message #363938] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 04:05 |
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| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:53 |
Also, if you're going to argue, you can't have a double standard for presentation of facts as you have adopted.
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This from the guy who condemns me for complaining to Apoc about my website getting hacked, but is perfectly happy lying to Apoc about me supposedly ddosing somebody.
It really does beggar belief how stupid you are.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:53 |
Since you can't read, let me express this in simple terms. If you expect me to present facts, when countering my arguments, you too must present facts.
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Sorry, you have an argument? I must've missed that. All you've done is a string of entirely fictional accusations, none of which you seem willing to retract or apologise for after you're caught lying. When I make accusations against you, all you do is whinge about the lack of evidence, ignoring the fact they're true!
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:53 |
I really can't argue with somebody who keeps doing what I outlined above.
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You are correct when you say you can't argue with me, you're just a little confused about why... I'll fill you in, it's because everything you've said against me has been wrong, and because everything I've said about you has been right.
| null.var wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 04:53 |
I replied, like you wanted me to. Now I'm going to go back to doing what I said on page 1, not hearing from me again.
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so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
I'll say it again: the reason nobody here respects you is you've never given anybody cause to. When someone like luv2pb doesn't know or care who you are, it's not because he's "new" or "ignorant", it's because you've never given anything worthwhile to this community, in spite of all your huffing and puffing.
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the rest of the people from the renegade community really don't give a fuck who you are or what you do
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A little ironic, don't you think? Seems like a grand total of one person, xptek, views you favourably. Everyone else apparently thinks you're a petulant loser, or couldn't care less.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363947 is a reply to message #363941] |
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| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363955 is a reply to message #363851] |
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| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
That is probably wise of you, considering the fact Null tried to, and failed dismally. (again)
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^ Holy. Shit. You fucking retard. Stop proving my point.
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
So? Who brought it up in the first place? Null (and havocide). If that's a bragging right, it is a valid rebuttal to point out that it got absolutely nowhere.
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I haven't really followed C&C news for the last few years, but as far as I know it's the most complete and accurate implementation of a WOL server created so far. The service wasn't launched in the end, correct, but it didn't get absolutely nowhere. Hell, one of these days I might port the code over to InspIRCd and release the source (but probably not, because I don't see the majority of you getting less fucking stupid any time soon!).
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
What's really funny is Null seems to think it helps his case to blame this unmitigated failure on his dislike of those five people he mentioned, especially since we've learned that one of those five grievances was entirely fictional. It would look a lot better to just say there was some technical problem, it really would. He'd have gotten points for trying, in my book at least. He'd still be on about -1000 though.
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ATTN Presumptuous Dumbass:
Other than using the service, null wasn't affiliated with Linkup. At all. Comprende?
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
Oh, I've seen the thread... I'm not sure you have. Given null's unparalleled stupidity, dishonesty, selfishness, bitterness and delusions of success, I'm a little puzzled why you think this shows everyone else to be "absolute morons".
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Uh, do you really think I'm here to defend null? I'm here to clear up a few baseless assumptions about the Linkup project. Discussing the efficacies of Linkup, XWIS, or Clanwars.cc is a REALLY fucking pointless waste of time. The "better" solution is highly subjective to the needs of a particular player. Some fat neckbeard-wielding troll playing primarily to rank in a ladder might find Clanwars useful. An average player would probably find the stability/speed/decentralized nature of Linkup desireable. A driveling moron might appreciate XWIS because of the interaction with other driveling morons. This thread, you, null, all stupid MSN logs, and any discussion of the aforementioned stupid MSN logs is fucking pointless and you're all "absolute morons" for wasting any thought on it.
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For the record, Spoony did NOT "get his way" when he complained to Apoc about me. I banned him for 30 days for a reason that is not important now but probably was at the time and he complained to Apoc about it. Apoc wanted me to remove the ban but I didn't do it. Spoony stayed away for the length of the ban, after which time he came back and the rest is history. Since then, there has been a mutual decision between us that we are better off working together instead of fighting, the latter of which got us and the community absolutely nowhere, and everything has been fine ever since.
I don't know what your version of the story is, but that's mine.
And regarding the DDoS attacks, we had very good reason to believe at the time (based on the timing and the history of one of the people that he ran a website with [not clanwars]) that Spoony might have either ordered the attack on these forums or told a friend about his problems here who took matters into their own hands. I don't recall ever figuring out who did that attack and why. I no longer believe he had anything to do with it, though I can't say that it's a fact that he didn't. It doesn't really matter, anyway, considering that was easily 2 or 3 years ago.
I don't remember much about "Linkup". I never used it or anything. I vaguely remember getting some status reports about it and them trying to convince me to support it or endorse it or something. It's been a while...
I'm the bawss.
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| havocide3 wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:17 |
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
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If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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But it wasn't implemented! Obviously your system wasn't as great as you said it was, or we wouldn't all be using shitty XWIS.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:04 |
| havocide3 wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:17 |
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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But it wasn't implemented! Obviously your system wasn't as great as you said it was, or we wouldn't all be using shitty XWIS.
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IT. WAS. NOT. "HIS SYSTEM." YOU. FUCKING. ILLITERATE. MORON.
The ONLY people that had ANY affiliation with Linkup were myself and pvtschlag. I thought that was made pretty clear. Wow.
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| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:19 |
| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:04 |
| havocide3 wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:17 |
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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But it wasn't implemented! Obviously your system wasn't as great as you said it was, or we wouldn't all be using shitty XWIS.
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IT. WAS. NOT. "HIS SYSTEM." YOU. FUCKING. ILLITERATE. MORON.
The ONLY people that had ANY affiliation with Linkup were myself and pvtschlag. I thought that was made pretty clear. Wow.
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By saying "your" system, I'm not referring to havocide3 only. I'm referring to the entire group of people claiming to have worked on this project.
Fuck off.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363966 is a reply to message #363964] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 11:40 |
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| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:23 |
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:19 |
| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:04 |
| havocide3 wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:17 |
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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But it wasn't implemented! Obviously your system wasn't as great as you said it was, or we wouldn't all be using shitty XWIS.
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IT. WAS. NOT. "HIS SYSTEM." YOU. FUCKING. ILLITERATE. MORON.
The ONLY people that had ANY affiliation with Linkup were myself and pvtschlag. I thought that was made pretty clear. Wow.
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By saying "your" system, I'm not referring to havocide3 only. I'm referring to the entire group of people claiming to have worked on this project.
Fuck off.
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Two people worked on this project. Zero of the two developers involved with the project have claimed their "system" was great, and you feel it necessary to let us know that it "obviously wasn't" for no apparent reason? Thanks a lot for you contribution to the thread, man. With such an informative review, users should be able to make a highly informed decision about which service they use!
Fuck off.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363968 is a reply to message #363955] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 11:47 |
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| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
I haven't really followed C&C news for the last few years, but as far as I know it's the most complete and accurate implementation of a WOL server created so far. The service wasn't launched in the end, correct, but it didn't get absolutely nowhere.
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As far as the community goes, it may as well have never existed. And yet it's been used as proof of what a saviour Null is. All we've done is point out the stupidity of the claim...
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
Hell, one of these days I might port the code over to InspIRCd and release the source (but probably not, because I don't see the majority of you getting less fucking stupid any time soon!).
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Well, up to you... you can give the community something worthwhile or you can make feeble excuses not to based on your dislike of a minority of the community (already been over that, remember?)
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
Other than using the service, null wasn't affiliated with Linkup. At all. Comprende?
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So why was it even brought up in the first place?
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
Some fat neckbeard-wielding troll playing primarily to rank in a ladder might find Clanwars useful.
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Your lack of knowledge of clanning is matched only by your disrespect of the community in general. There are plenty of reasons why people used Clanwars.cc, and obsession with rank was the case in remarkably few of them.
Again, I would not expect you to know that, any more than I would expect null to.
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
An average player would probably find the stability/speed/decentralized nature of Linkup desireable.
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Hey, there's talk and there's action, isn't there...
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 11:24 |
The ONLY people that had ANY affiliation with Linkup were myself and pvtschlag. I thought that was made pretty clear. Wow.
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No, judging by this thread as a whole, it was not clear at all. We were all puzzled by null's rantings about how much good he's done for the community. I couldn't think of a single good thing, and quite a few bad things, so I asked what the good things were (I wasn't the only one). Havocide posted all this, null affirmed it.
So you're saying that null's claim to community greatness was even shakier than everyone originally thought? Up until this point, here's the deal: he makes immense claims for himself, but when his facts are checked there are plenty of bad things he's done, and the only good thing he could show for himself was working on a project which didn't end up getting finished, although the reason for that was the coders' own choice.
Now you're saying he can't even make THAT feeble claim? Well, thanks for clearing it up for me.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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You utter lack of respect for the community is not really surprising.
In the last few years, CW have been the only ones who gave enough of a shit about this community to give them a clan ladder (something which is necessary for the game). Nobody else has. And you call that negative? You're a fucking disgrace.
What's more, it was often more popular, more successful than the original WOL clan ladder, never mind this linkup bullshit which was never released in the first place. Even if it was, what on earth makes you think anyone would play there? I'd lay odds they'd have stayed at Clanwars.
Take a look at what an absurd claim you're making. "OK, all they did was talk and never actually came up with the goods, but even if they did it probably would've been better than your ladder! That ridiculous guess makes your contribution negative and linkup's positive, even though yours has the merit of actually existing and linkup doesn't."
blimey... I think you've taken lessons from the null school of non-logic.
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For the record, Spoony did NOT "get his way" when he complained to Apoc about me.
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Indeed, because I didn't ask for anything in the first place. I didn't even ask to be unbanned.
You would at least, I think, acknowledge that my complain was legitimate and there was nothing inherently wrong with making it in the first place? I certainly tried to resolve it with you first.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363969 is a reply to message #363966] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 11:50 |
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| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:40 |
| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:23 |
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:19 |
| Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 12:04 |
| havocide3 wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:17 |
| Spoony wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 06:05 |
so GO AWAY, STOP POSTING, THE COMMUNITY IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU, AND ALWAYS WAS! You've done nothing good for this community and lot of bad things against it, and yet all you've done is cry and cry and cry about how nobody knows all the wonderful things you've done for Renegade, and bitch at people who, unlike you, actually have made worthwhile contributions.
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Linkup = positive
Shitwars.cc = negative
If Linkup was implemented, there would be no reason for your third party clan reporting shit. It would've worked through Renegade like planned...
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But it wasn't implemented! Obviously your system wasn't as great as you said it was, or we wouldn't all be using shitty XWIS.
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IT. WAS. NOT. "HIS SYSTEM." YOU. FUCKING. ILLITERATE. MORON.
The ONLY people that had ANY affiliation with Linkup were myself and pvtschlag. I thought that was made pretty clear. Wow.
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By saying "your" system, I'm not referring to havocide3 only. I'm referring to the entire group of people claiming to have worked on this project.
Fuck off.
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Two people worked on this project. Zero of the two developers involved with the project have claimed their "system" was great, and you feel it necessary to let us know that it "obviously wasn't" for no apparent reason? Thanks a lot for you contribution to the thread, man. With such an informative review, users should be able to make a highly informed decision about which service they use!
Fuck off.
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Who the hell do you think you are? Almost nobody here remembers who you are, or cares about why you are upset. You should get off your high horse and realize that this community does not want you here. Sink back into obscurity along with this "null" guy and GTFO.
EDIT: If this system of yours is as awesome as it's supposed to be, why not just work on improving the awful WOL clone we use now? Of course not. BAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWing on renforums is a much better alternative, right?
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363971 is a reply to message #363458] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 11:53 |
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| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:24 |
I haven't really followed C&C news for the last few years, but as far as I know it's the most complete and accurate implementation of a WOL server created so far. The service wasn't launched in the end, correct, but it didn't get absolutely nowhere. Hell, one of these days I might port the code over to InspIRCd and release the source (but probably not, because I don't see the majority of you getting less fucking stupid any time soon!).
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"Most complete and accurate"?
Really?
How about the one that's ACTUALLY BEING USED AT THE MOMENT? I would call that more complete than something nobody has heard of.
And yes, it did get absolutely nowhere. Most Renegade players haven't heard of it. It hasn't impacted the community at all. The closest thing to a representitive of this project we've seen is Null here, and if the other Linkup fans (All five of them) are anything like him, then I'm not sure the community is ready for the "completeness" and "accuracy" of your "fine" project.
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:24 |
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
What's really funny is Null seems to think it helps his case to blame this unmitigated failure on his dislike of those five people he mentioned, especially since we've learned that one of those five grievances was entirely fictional. It would look a lot better to just say there was some technical problem, it really would. He'd have gotten points for trying, in my book at least. He'd still be on about -1000 though.
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ATTN Presumptuous Dumbass:
Other than using the service, null wasn't affiliated with Linkup. At all. Comprende?
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RE: Presumptous Dumbass;
If you read the motherfucking thread before you motherfucking posted, you would know that Null seems to be under the impression that he is deserving some position of power for his contributions to the community, and when asked what said contributions were, he cited Linkup. You need to be telling Null that he wasn't affiliated, not Spoony. Comprende?
| spigot wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 09:24 |
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:27 |
Oh, I've seen the thread... I'm not sure you have. Given null's unparalleled stupidity, dishonesty, selfishness, bitterness and delusions of success, I'm a little puzzled why you think this shows everyone else to be "absolute morons".
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Uh, do you really think I'm here to defend null? I'm here to clear up a few baseless assumptions about the Linkup project. Discussing the efficacies of Linkup, XWIS, or Clanwars.cc is a REALLY fucking pointless waste of time. The "better" solution is highly subjective to the needs of a particular player. Some fat neckbeard-wielding troll playing primarily to rank in a ladder might find Clanwars useful. An average player would probably find the stability/speed/decentralized nature of Linkup desireable. A driveling moron might appreciate XWIS because of the interaction with other driveling morons. This thread, you, null, all stupid MSN logs, and any discussion of the aforementioned stupid MSN logs is fucking pointless and you're all "absolute morons" for wasting any thought on it.
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ITT: BAWWWWW
Also, I'd consider letting go of your ReneRage over Xwis being implemented and Linkup not being implemented. Just get over it.
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