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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358410 is a reply to message #358027] Thu, 13 November 2008 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It can explain why some people can play 50 player servers with < 100 ping and no real tendancy to lag though...

I play with > 200 ping most of the time, which is the cause of a lot of VTOL flips.


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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358421 is a reply to message #358079] Thu, 13 November 2008 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RTsa wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 11:13

It is a balancing issue. And obviously the same would have to be done for the apache.

If that was done, it'd make those units more powerful as you wouldn't have to worry about them flipping. Or rather, you wouldn't need to pay attention to the fact that your orca/apache has flipped when you're repairing it and there's a ramjet firing at it, too. Basically it could mean that the orca/apache gets away more easily in situations like those - where currently they'd be destroyed.

I don't think I'd mind it being altered. (not saying fixed, as it's not neccessarily an issue)



You make absolutely no sense...VOTL-craft (aka Vertical Take-Off Landing-Craft) includes the apache...

Also, how would it make the Apache and Orca more powerful? Dont Get It
Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358431 is a reply to message #358410] Thu, 13 November 2008 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Thu, 13 November 2008 12:34

It can explain why some people can play 50 player servers with < 100 ping and no real tendancy to lag though...

I play with > 200 ping most of the time, which is the cause of a lot of VTOL flips.


It isn't lag that causes the flips most of the time, but lag that covers up the flips.

Like your vehicle would flip for X reason, but due to lag, you wouldn't notice until you exploded.
Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358433 is a reply to message #358345] Thu, 13 November 2008 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 12 November 2008 17:50

If you make them no longer explode, wont you be able to fly them upside down?

Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358437 is a reply to message #358027] Thu, 13 November 2008 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No cause they'd just disable whatever it is that makes the orca flip in the first place.

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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358461 is a reply to message #358027] Thu, 13 November 2008 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rolling Orcas would be pretty cool, though. :V
Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358467 is a reply to message #358027] Fri, 14 November 2008 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn straight. I've always wanted better aircraft physics in Renegade. The fact that you couldn't roll atall made it pretty lame to fly aircraft.

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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358477 is a reply to message #358467] Fri, 14 November 2008 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A helicopter or orca VTOL is not able to fly upside down. It's simply impossible due to the nature of the aircraft. It uses engines to push it self upwards. Guess what happens when you turn the whole aircraft upside-down? The engines would push the vehicle towards the ground, at very high speed.

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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358481 is a reply to message #358027] Fri, 14 November 2008 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That doesn't make the aircraft "impossible" to roll, it would make it stupid to roll.
Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358487 is a reply to message #358397] Fri, 14 November 2008 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Thu, 13 November 2008 13:28

sadukar09 wrote on Thu, 13 November 2008 02:45

KobraOps wrote on Wed, 12 November 2008 16:30

You guys must be bad drivers ive never had my orca/apache explode because it "flipped in mid air"

You obviously haven't played much Renegade.

Not that hard to see why: you're American and most servers are based in the USA. Carrier and others here are from Europe and have more lag issues on US based servers.



I'm uk, can't remeber the last time I flipped a flya.

Nubbiest thing I have done is get out to high on city and watch orca land next to bridge rather than on it.


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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358565 is a reply to message #358481] Sat, 15 November 2008 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 14 November 2008 15:34

That doesn't make the aircraft "impossible" to roll, it would make it stupid to roll.

True, but it would also mean that it would indeed die when upside down....


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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358585 is a reply to message #358027] Sat, 15 November 2008 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So if you got out of an orca quickly and it were to flip over it wouldnt die? It would either self-right it self or stay upside down?

Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358704 is a reply to message #358421] Sun, 16 November 2008 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zack wrote on Thu, 13 November 2008 21:58

RTsa wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 11:13

It is a balancing issue. And obviously the same would have to be done for the apache.

If that was done, it'd make those units more powerful as you wouldn't have to worry about them flipping. Or rather, you wouldn't need to pay attention to the fact that your orca/apache has flipped when you're repairing it and there's a ramjet firing at it, too. Basically it could mean that the orca/apache gets away more easily in situations like those - where currently they'd be destroyed.

I don't think I'd mind it being altered. (not saying fixed, as it's not neccessarily an issue)



You make absolutely no sense...VOTL-craft (aka Vertical Take-Off Landing-Craft) includes the apache...

Also, how would it make the Apache and Orca more powerful? Dont Get It

People were talking about orcas at the beginning of the thread. You're right on the VTOL part though, I guess. Though it's not VOTL. Razz

Anyway, if you don't get how it'll make the units slightly more powerful, you just read my post again.

Absolutely no sense is a bit of an overstatement though, don't you think?


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Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358707 is a reply to message #358027] Sun, 16 November 2008 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This might be TS, but it's still an orca:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACzqvLH9J0
Re: VTOL flip-kill [message #358751 is a reply to message #358707] Sun, 16 November 2008 21:05 Go to previous message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 16 November 2008 12:24

This might be TS, but it's still an orca:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACzqvLH9J0




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