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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356485 is a reply to message #356484] Thu, 30 October 2008 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 17:06]I'd vote Obama if I were an American. Not that I like the guy very much, but his policies are more appealing to me than McCain's. McCain's sided with Bush on pretty much everything, and these past eight years have been a disaster to the U.S economy and public image.

Not that I think Obama would change much, but McCain will probably either do nothing or take another step in the wrong direction.

The McCain's campaign has made so many attacks and very false accusations to Obama, by first calling him inexperienced, then bringing up his former pastor, then calling him someone who hangs around terrorists, and now a socialist. If Obama is a socialist, then that would make me Stalin. I was also not happy with McCain's VP pick - a mayor of a small town and the governor of Alaska for less than two years - throws the "inexperienced" argument right out the window.

Just my crazy Canadian opinion of course.

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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356491 is a reply to message #356310] Thu, 30 October 2008 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 29 October 2008 15:51

Fuck mecain we need a Democratic look how bad gorge bush fucked use over and mccain agreed 90% of what bush did wtf is that


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356499 is a reply to message #356259] Thu, 30 October 2008 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fuck mecain we need a Democratic look how bad gorge bush fucked use over and mccain agreed 90% of what bush did wtf is that


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McCain's sided with Bush on pretty much everything, and these past eight years have been a disaster to the U.S economy and public image.


And before the Bush administration there was the Clinton administration, and before that.. Do you see the pattern here? Frankly it is very ignorant to blame the problems of America on the president. The president is one person, whom actually has limited authoritive power without consent. Everyone thinks that someone else can do a better job. Everyone thinks that they themselves can do a better job. The reality of it is that no one really can, because you can't please the entire nation, ever. It doesn't even matter which party gets the presidency, its going to be the same thing for the rest of our lives: "The 'X' administration doesn't know what they're doing, we need change! And new people! And he/she/it can do it better!" Whoever gets the presidency does what they think is right, to the best of their ability. The presidency will never please its nation because unfortunately we are all human, and we all have opinions, views, and by human nature "so and so can do it better".


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356501 is a reply to message #356259] Thu, 30 October 2008 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually I thought Clinton made a fine president Big Grin so I'm not blaming him for anything. I do blame the current administration, though, for several problems concerning the deficit, your debt, your image on the world stage, the mess in Iraq, etc.

I don't want to get into a political debate because I'm just stating my opinion.

The previous poster was absolutely right in saying that Obama and Bush aren't very different. That's American politics for you - two sides on the same coin - only slight differences between both parties and yet so much tension.

I miss Ron Paul.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356544 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Under Clinton, sub-prime lending didn't exactly go unnoticed. (Which uh, sort of is why our economy is in such a disaster)

Under Clinton, we had the chance to get rid of osama bin laden. But didn't.

Under Clinton, our military was fucked up pretty badly.

Clinton was NOT a great president. Not saying Bush was either, but I hate it when people say Clinton was such a great president.

As for Ron Paul though, I agree. I miss him too. I really wish he had been the nominee. He mostly didn't get it because he was HONEST. And people hate honesty in politics, as much as they orgasm over it whenever Obama says he's LOL HONEST AND WILL BRING ABOUT CHANGE LOL.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356553 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hate this forum... I just lost everything I had said by a connection interruption...

Just a quick reminder for everybody who hates Bush so much and thinks that he's to blame everything... HE. CAN'T. PASS. LEGISLATION. ON. HIS. OWN. Congress (House of Representatives AND the Senate) must agree upon and pass the legislation before it goes to the Executive Branch for the president to sign/veto. As far as I have heard, there hasn't been anything huge that Bush has had to veto that Congress has passed.

Who has the 3x the approval rating as the other? That's right, G.W. does. His approval rating around 30% is 3x the Congress' approval rating of 9%. While Bush may be fucking with our nation, Congress is obviously doing worse, and who are they controlled by, albeit slightly? The Democrats.

Oh, and let's not forget who agreed with Bush on the $700 billion bailout. Kerry, Edwards, Obama, Clinton, McCain, and a sizable majority of Democrats. Less than 50% of Republicans in Congress voted for it.

Edit: Cabal, the Republican Congress didn't want Clinton to go after bin Laden. They thought it was a waste of time, then 9/11 hit, and they attacked Clinton for not going after him.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356598 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For what it's worth, one of the reasons bin Laden was not eliminated was due to bickering among the CIA, FBI, and the military, and their jurisdictions.

Richard Clarke makes a big note of this in his book. They had actually been spying on bin Laden for months using drones as he walked freely in his compound/village. Essentially they were just about to rig up a drone to dump a payload, but the operation was scuttled when those three organizations began to argue.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356626 is a reply to message #356443] Fri, 31 October 2008 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr. Fantastic wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 13:00

pawkyfox wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 12:34

Even if Obama gets more votes, McCain will win. You watch... Laughing


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356632 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FOXNEWS CONSERVATIVE!!! God, I hate it when people do shit like that to me. Especially on the APB forums.

According to Al Sharpton, if Obama loses, there will be riots in the streets because all the black people that voted for OsamabinBiden will riot.


Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356641 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What makes you people talking about 3rd parties think that the same thing won't happen like it did in England with their parties?
Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356642 is a reply to message #356259] Fri, 31 October 2008 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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actually Clinton had a budget surplus(one of the very very few), didn't f*** with other countries(a good thing), had the lowest inflation, biggest home ownership and lowest uneployment rate while he was a president, so I hate when people say Clinton was a bad president. And then Bush came....
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Because the popular third parties are about reducing the size of government involvement.

Edit: Clinton didn't fuck with other countries? What the fuck are you smoking? Ever hear of a little thing called Kosovo? That's just one of his foreign "military aid" campaigns during the 1990s. The only thing he didn't do was topple a foreign government, but he sure as Hell did send the military into foreign conflicts.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #356732 is a reply to message #356259] Sat, 01 November 2008 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry, i meant he didn't ovethrow a government.
Re: McCain's gonna win [message #357142 is a reply to message #356732] Tue, 04 November 2008 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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McCain's gonna win in the narrowest of margins, you just watch!

NOTE: This is my election gamble.


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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #357157 is a reply to message #356259] Tue, 04 November 2008 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think there's any chance McCain will win : / Sad as it is. My friend runs this site: http://latestpollresults.com/ and he's been saying that for quite some time.

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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #357166 is a reply to message #356259] Tue, 04 November 2008 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can anyone from america tell me why you have such a low voter percentage btw? I always thought that our 60-85% were quite low, guess I was wrong.
Re: McCain's gonna win [message #357169 is a reply to message #356259] Tue, 04 November 2008 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Americans are lazy, uneducated, and complacent morons. HURR, MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT HURR HURR HURR HURR.

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Re: McCain's gonna win [message #357171 is a reply to message #356259] Tue, 04 November 2008 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My vote DOESN'T count Cheesesoda. I live in Illinois. McCain has a 0.0% chance of winning. If every other county in the state goes McCain, and Cook County(County that Chicago is in) goes to Obama, the state goes to Obama in a landslide victory. Not only is that working against him, but the Teamsters have already stated that they are to vote for Obama. Even if through some incredible miracle McCain did win, then the dead would cast their ballots, then the pets, then the children. It's just the way things work around here.

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Well, Michigan has N****rville, USA, and North N****rville, USA. Not to mention Wayne County, a bunch of liberal assholes.

Oh, and who am I voting for? Neither Obama nor McCain, so my vote obviously isn't going to directly help elect the next president. Still, even if my vote ends up being nothing more than a civil protest, I'm still using my voice.

Plus, if all of the 150 million people that don't vote actually did, I'm guessing we'd see a lot different of a race.


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Maybe everywhere else but Illinois : P. Also as for the voting for a third party candidate as Civil protest. Did you ever see the episode of the Simpsons, it was a Halloween special. Kang and Kodos impersonate Bush and Clinton until near election day. Then it is revealed and they both want to enslave the Earth. Then they are like "You have to choose one of us!" and some guy pipes up "I'll vote for a third party candidate!" And they say "Fine, Throw your vote away!" Then later as they are tabulating the results and... I can't remember if Kang or Kodos won, but Ross Perot is shown punching a whole in his hat and roaring since he lost to Evil space aliens that wanted to enslave the earth. Just thought that was relavent and kinda funny.

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I miss Ron Paul.


Me to, damn shame he didn't get more national attention.

For the guys worried about their vote not counting...we aren't a democracy and were not designed to be. We are a republic.

Here is a good video on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODJfwa9XKZQ


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For the record I'm not complaining about it. I know that is the way the system works here and am A-OK with it. It works. We've sorta got corruption down to a science here and we prosper along side it.

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C'mon McCain...you can do it man....damn he's got to win. I am not even gonna sleep tonight...I will be watching the results.

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Obama is winning currently.

Very very close though.


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