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Re: More permanent banning [message #353661 is a reply to message #353659] Wed, 08 October 2008 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:08

Right so Daniel has made a decent banning system but is this going to be released with TT? No point saying we have made something that can by you and make sure you stay banned but you can't have it.


According to Crimson my coding is "shoddy" so I very much doubt they want it. The theory behind it is very simple so I'm sure if they did want it they can write their far superior code to implement it.
Re: More permanent banning [message #353664 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nune wrote on Fri, 03 October 2008 10:21

pretty much everyone knows how easy it is to ban evade, personally I have evaded quite a few bans that I saw as unjust Wink

Is TT including anything that will make bypassing bans a lot less doable.


The only way to ban a Renegade player is to physically come to their house and take the game away from them!!


Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353666 is a reply to message #353664] Wed, 08 October 2008 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thrash300 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 08:17

Nune wrote on Fri, 03 October 2008 10:21

pretty much everyone knows how easy it is to ban evade, personally I have evaded quite a few bans that I saw as unjust Wink

Is TT including anything that will make bypassing bans a lot less doable.


The only way to ban a Renegade player is to physically come to their house and take the game away from them!!


So they can just go buy/warez it again?
Re: More permanent banning [message #353669 is a reply to message #353666] Wed, 08 October 2008 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ChewML wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 08:21

thrash300 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 08:17

Nune wrote on Fri, 03 October 2008 10:21

pretty much everyone knows how easy it is to ban evade, personally I have evaded quite a few bans that I saw as unjust Wink

Is TT including anything that will make bypassing bans a lot less doable.


The only way to ban a Renegade player is to physically come to their house and take the game away from them!!


So they can just go buy/warez it again?


Then the Ban Team will physically come to their house and take that too!!!!!


Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353715 is a reply to message #353661] Wed, 08 October 2008 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:19

Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:08

Right so Daniel has made a decent banning system but is this going to be released with TT? No point saying we have made something that can by you and make sure you stay banned but you can't have it.


According to Crimson my coding is "shoddy" so I very much doubt they want it. The theory behind it is very simple so I'm sure if they did want it they can write their far superior code to implement it.


Right so couldn't you just release it as a plugin to SSGM or something? Im sure it would be appreciated by a lot of people.


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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353741 is a reply to message #353715] Wed, 08 October 2008 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 19:15

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:19

Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:08

Right so Daniel has made a decent banning system but is this going to be released with TT? No point saying we have made something that can by you and make sure you stay banned but you can't have it.


According to Crimson my coding is "shoddy" so I very much doubt they want it. The theory behind it is very simple so I'm sure if they did want it they can write their far superior code to implement it.


Right so couldn't you just release it as a plugin to SSGM or something? Im sure it would be appreciated by a lot of people.


It already is.
Re: More permanent banning [message #353744 is a reply to message #353741] Wed, 08 October 2008 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 21:50

Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 19:15

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:19

Caveman wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 13:08

Right so Daniel has made a decent banning system but is this going to be released with TT? No point saying we have made something that can by you and make sure you stay banned but you can't have it.


According to Crimson my coding is "shoddy" so I very much doubt they want it. The theory behind it is very simple so I'm sure if they did want it they can write their far superior code to implement it.


Right so couldn't you just release it as a plugin to SSGM or something? Im sure it would be appreciated by a lot of people.


It already is.


Oh? Linky please?


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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353752 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's in his bot YaRR: http://forums.dcomproductions.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1081 and tbh imo it is much better than any other released bot.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353755 is a reply to message #353752] Wed, 08 October 2008 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But I dont want another bot.. I am happy with my modifed BR. I would just like the banning feature.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353756 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good luck with getting just that then.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353769 is a reply to message #353752] Wed, 08 October 2008 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lone0001 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 16:22

It's in his bot YaRR: http://forums.dcomproductions.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1081 and tbh imo it is much better than any other released bot.


I don't really get it, what is the problem with the current banning system, you get kicked you can return to the server, you get banned you cannot return to the server what more is there about kicking and banning does it not work.


Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353784 is a reply to message #353769] Wed, 08 October 2008 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thrash300 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 19:24

Lone0001 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 16:22

It's in his bot YaRR: http://forums.dcomproductions.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1081 and tbh imo it is much better than any other released bot.


I don't really get it, what is the problem with the current banning system, you get kicked you can return to the server, you get banned you cannot return to the server what more is there about kicking and banning does it not work.

Wow. Ever heard of ban evasion?


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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: More permanent banning [message #353800 is a reply to message #353784] Wed, 08 October 2008 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 20:12

thrash300 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 19:24

Lone0001 wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 16:22

It's in his bot YaRR: http://forums.dcomproductions.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1081 and tbh imo it is much better than any other released bot.


I don't really get it, what is the problem with the current banning system, you get kicked you can return to the server, you get banned you cannot return to the server what more is there about kicking and banning does it not work.

Wow. Ever heard of ban evasion?


What hacking to get back into a server?.


Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353805 is a reply to message #353014] Thu, 09 October 2008 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They get past it by using a shoddy serial and a different IP. Don't ask for any more details.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353834 is a reply to message #353571] Thu, 09 October 2008 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 05:44

Why exactly can't you use WOL again? I know you told me before but I cannot remember it.

A TT serial is no solution as you cannot link it to a user or computer. Everyone needs a serial to install the game and there's an up to date list of valid serials over at xwis.

An in between solution would be to give the server access to the xwis valid serial (hash) list so it can check if direct connecters use a valid serial. However, you'd need Olaf to do this.

Which is fail, I have three copies of TFD, one copy of the original renegade, and one copy of the games that were bundled in that orange box. I've had to reinstall renegade 10 times across 3 different computers because of "You have an invalid serial" or something like that when try to enter the advanced game listing lobby.



Also, Banning by ISP is a bad idea, what about groups of people that play in their college dorms, one person in the school gets banned and then everyone else in the school can't play Huh That would be very annoying.


Re: More permanent banning [message #353839 is a reply to message #353834] Thu, 09 October 2008 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 09 October 2008 10:34

what about groups of people that play in their college dorms, one person in the school gets banned and then everyone else in the school can't play Huh That would be very annoying.


literally beat the shit out of him and send a photo with proof that he will never be able to play again (something like cut of fingers...) to the serverowner. Would be enough for me to lift the isp ban Smile


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353840 is a reply to message #353839] Thu, 09 October 2008 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wiener wrote on Thu, 09 October 2008 10:18

Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 09 October 2008 10:34

what about groups of people that play in their college dorms, one person in the school gets banned and then everyone else in the school can't play Huh That would be very annoying.


literally beat the shit out of him and send a photo with proof that he will never be able to play again (something like cut of fingers...) to the serverowner. Would be enough for me to lift the isp ban Smile

LOL, well you never know, that could be the result, but... I have a feeling that it would have some nasty legal issues that could follow.


Re: More permanent banning [message #353847 is a reply to message #353014] Thu, 09 October 2008 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just tell the police that he was avoiding a ban. They'll understand why you had to cut his balls off.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353856 is a reply to message #353847] Thu, 09 October 2008 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Back on topic...

Can this method of banning be released as a separate DLL please, Dan?


CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353859 is a reply to message #353856] Thu, 09 October 2008 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Thu, 09 October 2008 18:36

Back on topic...

Can this method of banning be released as a separate DLL please, Dan?


It needs a rewrite at some point so I can make it open source, but I'm not writing it into a separate file. If anyone wants to use it they can rip it out of YaRR themselves.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353928 is a reply to message #353014] Thu, 09 October 2008 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Couldn't we just trace down the offenders by their IP and pee in their cornflakes?
An ISP may also sue us for denying their users access to our servers, and most countries have only a few main internet service providers that most of the population uses.


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Dthdealer wrote on Fri, 10 October 2008 07:50

Couldn't we just trace down the offenders by their IP and pee in their cornflakes?
An ISP may also sue us for denying their users access to our servers, and most countries have only a few main internet service providers that most of the population uses.

You didn't understand the concept, I think.

I can deny anyone from joining the server I pay for, as well.


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