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Re: Hadron Collider [message #350298 is a reply to message #349553] |
Wed, 10 September 2008 12:16   |
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Doitle
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Ryu wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 13:14 |
Doitle wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 18:21 | 7000mph? lol...
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Am I missing something here?
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Yes you are. 7000mph is absurdly slow.
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Once or twice a day, as the protons are accelerated from 450 GeV to 7 TeV, the field of the superconducting dipole magnets will be increased from 0.54 T to 8.3 T. The protons will each have an energy of 7 TeV, giving a total collision energy of 14 TeV (2.2 μJ). At this energy the protons have a Lorentz factor of about 7,500 and move at about 99.999999% of light speed.
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99.999999% of the speed of light would mean the particles are traveling at 670,633,494 mph. Now do you see why I laughed at your claim of 7000mph? 7000mph Would be if they had two space shuttles about halfway to break-orbit speed crashing into each other. That would produce many 7000mph particle collisions.
Also I understand they are just in test run phase and are not running all out but 7000mph is bogglingly slow for particle physics.
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Re: Hadron Collider [message #350318 is a reply to message #350288] |
Wed, 10 September 2008 14:41   |
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R315r4z0r
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 15:03 |
I don't get what you mean, I was saying his statement is going to remain true when both beams are operational. And as i've said throughout the thread, nothing is going to happen.
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Well, I'm not disagreeing with you. But this experiment is supposed to give specific results.
If we don't get those results, than that means the things we think we know about physics, about the universe, and about life, are all wrong. That would send us back hundreds of years.
And no, there is no risk of us dying..
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Re: Hadron Collider [message #350406 is a reply to message #350318] |
Wed, 10 September 2008 23:22   |
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jnz
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 22:41 |
RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 15:03 |
I don't get what you mean, I was saying his statement is going to remain true when both beams are operational. And as i've said throughout the thread, nothing is going to happen.
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Well, I'm not disagreeing with you. But this experiment is supposed to give specific results.
If we don't get those results, than that means the things we think we know about physics, about the universe, and about life, are all wrong. That would send us back hundreds of years.
And no, there is no risk of us dying..
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Nothing, as in the earth is not going to by sucked into a black hole.
I'm a bit skeptical of the results too, I think we will see what we already know. Not sure about any "anti matter" we might see. I think the only reason those elements were destroyed was because they were too unstable and broke apart. Although I hardly know what I'm talking about really.
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Re: Hadron Collider [message #350431 is a reply to message #350298] |
Thu, 11 September 2008 03:02   |
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Ryu
Messages: 2833 Registered: September 2006 Location: Liverpool, England.
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Doitle wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 20:16 |
Ryu wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 13:14 |
Doitle wrote on Sat, 06 September 2008 18:21 | 7000mph? lol...
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Am I missing something here?
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Yes you are. 7000mph is absurdly slow.
LHC Peoples |
Once or twice a day, as the protons are accelerated from 450 GeV to 7 TeV, the field of the superconducting dipole magnets will be increased from 0.54 T to 8.3 T. The protons will each have an energy of 7 TeV, giving a total collision energy of 14 TeV (2.2 μJ). At this energy the protons have a Lorentz factor of about 7,500 and move at about 99.999999% of light speed.
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99.999999% of the speed of light would mean the particles are traveling at 670,633,494 mph. Now do you see why I laughed at your claim of 7000mph? 7000mph Would be if they had two space shuttles about halfway to break-orbit speed crashing into each other. That would produce many 7000mph particle collisions.
Also I understand they are just in test run phase and are not running all out but 7000mph is bogglingly slow for particle physics.
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I read some were they would be traveling at 7.xxx something, could be 70,000 or similar.. But I'm not quite sure, so do forgive my ignorance, But yeah, I guess you're right.. it is fairly slow for a project of this scale..
670 million? lord all mighty.. we're doomed.
DOOMED!
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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