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DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350115] Tue, 09 September 2008 09:17 Go to next message
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Ok, so ive installed renegade on other vista computers (50/50 32-64 bit), and I know about the run as admin, compatability mode etc, but doesn't fall under any of those categories.... here's what happens:

1)Installs fine, but can't right it because no-cd issues, install the 1.037 patch, everything fine up to this point.

2)Install renguard, then the core patches again everything seems to be running fine.

3)I try to run it and it automatically gets:

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error1kh1.jpg

^Even ive manually set my account to be the main admin (like the hidden admin one), and disabled UAC, right click->run as admin gives me the same error.

4)Compatability mode->XP Service Pack 2, and it actually tries to load it up, goes to black screen, but then it just hangs. This is why I think it is a video card issues (related to DX9/10).

I have an EVGA 8800GT (512mb, PCI-2.0, OC'd) which runs default DX10, and I was just told:

jonwil wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 02:25

All 3.x versions (as well as 4.0) use DX9. DX10 is not possible (and provides no benefit even on Vista)


And since I am using core patch 2 scipts, its like 2.2 something which is DX8 I guess. Now my question is, do I have to install DX9 and DX8 separately aswell for it to run those DX's or can DX10 emulate those?
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350127 is a reply to message #350115] Tue, 09 September 2008 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DX10 will play DX8 fine. You should be ok.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350130 is a reply to message #350115] Tue, 09 September 2008 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check the Faq for the solutions for Vista problems.

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Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350132 is a reply to message #350127] Tue, 09 September 2008 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 12:50

DX10 will play DX8 fine. You should be ok.



*sigh*

DirectX 10 is a completely different API. Vista does come preinstalled with DirectX 8 and DirectX 9, don't need to worry about installing those.


XCorupt69 wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 11:17


4)Compatability mode->XP Service Pack 2, and it actually tries to load it up, goes to black screen, but then it just hangs. This is why I think it is a video card issues (related to DX9/10).

I have an EVGA 8800GT (512mb, PCI-2.0, OC'd) which runs default DX10, and I was just told:

jonwil wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 02:25

All 3.x versions (as well as 4.0) use DX9. DX10 is not possible (and provides no benefit even on Vista)


And since I am using core patch 2 scipts, its like 2.2 something which is DX8 I guess. Now my question is, do I have to install DX9 and DX8 separately aswell for it to run those DX's or can DX10 emulate those?


Your video card doesn't run anything "native", NVIDIA's driver provides translaters for DirectX8, 9, 10, OpenGL, etc to what the video card actually runs. Give scripts 3.4.4 a try and if that doesn't work, try this launcher.
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350180 is a reply to message #350132] Tue, 09 September 2008 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 19:39

Caveman wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 12:50

DX10 will play DX8 fine. You should be ok.



*sigh*

DirectX 10 is a completely different API. Vista does come preinstalled with DirectX 8 and DirectX 9, don't need to worry about installing those.





Looks like I got told, huh?


CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


http://r9.fodey.com/2158/bc450f3ca15045e9bdd7651fa49f3a0a.0.gif
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350194 is a reply to message #350180] Tue, 09 September 2008 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 19:39

Caveman wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 12:50

DX10 will play DX8 fine. You should be ok.



*sigh*

DirectX 10 is a completely different API. Vista does come preinstalled with DirectX 8 and DirectX 9, don't need to worry about installing those.




You jump on people for the tiniest mistakes, lol.


-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

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Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350195 is a reply to message #350194] Tue, 09 September 2008 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 19:36

Saberhawk wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 19:39

Caveman wrote on Tue, 09 September 2008 12:50

DX10 will play DX8 fine. You should be ok.



*sigh*

DirectX 10 is a completely different API. Vista does come preinstalled with DirectX 8 and DirectX 9, don't need to worry about installing those.




You jump on people for the tiniest mistakes, lol.



Mostly because I'm tired of misinformation constantly spread around by everybody Big Ups
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350273 is a reply to message #350115] Wed, 10 September 2008 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to mention that it's not that small a mistake if the differences are as large as Saberhawk points out.


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Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350282 is a reply to message #350273] Wed, 10 September 2008 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was merely trying to say that if he has DX10 that he doesn't need to install DX8/9. It will work..But whatever..lool.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


http://r9.fodey.com/2158/bc450f3ca15045e9bdd7651fa49f3a0a.0.gif
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350334 is a reply to message #350115] Wed, 10 September 2008 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its not the 05 error, thats just related to UAC/run as admin which is one of the first things I mingled with in the registry. Any, heres the current status:

1)with scripts 3.4.4 it DID work, but from that installer, what are the "example shaders", and "bloom"?

2)So it means, anyone with a native DX10 video card, their renegade will NOT work unless they manually find, download, and install scripts 3.0+ (or 2.9.2 +ren3d)?

3)What was that laucher, downloaded it anyway, but don't wanna try it just yet because my renegade is still being picky but atleast working.
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350382 is a reply to message #350334] Wed, 10 September 2008 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry for butting into the topic, but I have the same problem. I followed all the steps in the sticky and everything you guys posted. I installed every option in scripts344, renguard, everything. I do not get the 05 error. It is the same thing that happens as his first post.

Rather than creating a new topic, I thought I should ask here. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Also, I downloaded the gamelauncher and ran it. It did absolutely nothing for me.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350407 is a reply to message #350334] Wed, 10 September 2008 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XCorupt69 wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 19:19

Its not the 05 error, thats just related to UAC/run as admin which is one of the first things I mingled with in the registry. Any, heres the current status:

1)with scripts 3.4.4 it DID work, but from that installer, what are the "example shaders", and "bloom"?

2)So it means, anyone with a native DX10 video card, their renegade will NOT work unless they manually find, download, and install scripts 3.0+ (or 2.9.2 +ren3d)?

3)What was that laucher, downloaded it anyway, but don't wanna try it just yet because my renegade is still being picky but atleast working.


Renegade has a bug in it that causes random crashes on startup when using versions of Windows newer than Windows Server 2003 (aka NT 5.2). That launcher runs the game with a specially built compatibility fix.
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350408 is a reply to message #350382] Wed, 10 September 2008 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gr8patman wrote on Wed, 10 September 2008 23:10

Sorry for butting into the topic, but I have the same problem. I followed all the steps in the sticky and everything you guys posted. I installed every option in scripts344, renguard, everything. I do not get the 05 error. It is the same thing that happens as his first post.

Rather than creating a new topic, I thought I should ask here. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Also, I downloaded the gamelauncher and ran it. It did absolutely nothing for me.

Thanks in advance.


Did it not run at all or did it crash still?
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350539 is a reply to message #350115] Thu, 11 September 2008 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It would just crash.
Re: DX9/10 Vista x64 Issues [message #350733 is a reply to message #350115] Sat, 13 September 2008 14:19 Go to previous message
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Well after digging through a bunch of posts, I found that if I installed Resurrection, I could just disable the launcher and run Renegade with Rengaurd.

Thanks anyways everybody.
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