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A few concerns/bugs. [message #348203] Sun, 24 August 2008 15:28 Go to next message
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There are a few things I was concerned about and was wondering if they'd be fixed, changed, or adjusted.

1.)If I'm not wrong GDI infantry to more damage with their rifle then Nod infantry. Why is this, and why would it be this way? Nod infantry are much easier to hit, having their rifles be worse doesn't make much sense, most of all when all other free infantry are the same.

2.)The GDI Symbol. You can shoot through the GDI symbol on the on the medium tank. This can be annoying if they are driving backwards and behind some cover shooting at you. Sometimes your shots will go though the tank. There are other cases where this is annoying. ( EDIT : Sorry noticed this in another topic)

3.)I'm not sure what to call this, so I'm gonna call it the height bug. Now sometimes when your high above something shooting down at it, the splash damage will do and sometimes the shell itself won't either. Some cases of this are on hourglass (unless you know the little "trick" to work around it) and on mesa if your on the bridge shooting down at some infantry or something. This is possibly the most annoying bug in my mind, when your shooting RIGHT at an infantry's foot and it does no damage.

4.)Stealth bug? I've never really paid much attention myself, but jumping and by colliding with objects, sometimes, sbhs will flash? I haven't experienced this one much myself so I'm not to sure about this one.

There's some others I forgot but o well:(.


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348206 is a reply to message #348203] Sun, 24 August 2008 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1) This is not a bug, GDI are meant to be more powerful. Nod are meant to be stealthy.

2) Been mentioned.

3) Been mentioned.

4) I have had this a few times but its not a regular thing but it still needs fixing.


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348214 is a reply to message #348203] Sun, 24 August 2008 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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4 - they do by jumping, also if they jump you can see footsteps usually. To be honest I think that makes sense because why would your footsteps be stealth too?

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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348229 is a reply to message #348203] Sun, 24 August 2008 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. Meant to be, even says it during the installer!
4. Is meant to be this way: stealth technology ain't 100 %. It also shows when you're close to an enemy.


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348230 is a reply to message #348229] Sun, 24 August 2008 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Sun, 24 August 2008 23:24


4. Is meant to be this way: stealth technology ain't 100 %. It also shows when you're close to an enemy.

or jump or fall
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I was just playing a match yesterday in Hourglass and I was on GDI, running around in the tunnel minding my own business then at the side entrance I saw some footsteps and fired my volt. That idiot let me reveal not 1 but 3 SBHs who were beside him. It helps to know what stealthiness means even when playing a game.

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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348244 is a reply to message #348229] Mon, 25 August 2008 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 25 August 2008 01:24

1. Meant to be, even says it during the installer!
4. Is meant to be this way: stealth technology ain't 100 %. It also shows when you're close to an enemy.


1.) Really? I still think that's silly. Since Nod infantry are so much bigger>_>. O well.

4.)I think footsteps and such showing are fine but why just for jumping(not falling and taking dmg) should the actually sbh itself flash? Footsteps or snow kicking up is perfectly fine imo. Also I didn't know when your close up it shows omgthx;p. This isn't that serious just something I thought I'd mention. 2 and 3 are by far the worst of the 4 things I listed.


Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348247 is a reply to message #348203] Mon, 25 August 2008 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GDI needs a small game start advantage: their vehicles are overall more expensive than Nod's. It balances out quite nicely IMO.

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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348255 is a reply to message #348203] Mon, 25 August 2008 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still find it easy/same to kill infrantry both on GDI & Nod
Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348270 is a reply to message #348203] Mon, 25 August 2008 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Same, and if you hate the Nod AR, buy the NOD offy, with the uber awesome chaingun. Its a fast killer, if you are good at range kills (aim ahead, high, so to head maybe?), its easy for kills. This includes the GDI offy too of course, but is there a damage difference between those 2 chainguns actually?
Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348322 is a reply to message #348203] Tue, 26 August 2008 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348339 is a reply to message #348203] Tue, 26 August 2008 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, they're exactly the same.

But yeah, the Nod autorifle needs to do 7 aswell. I think they just copied the Autorifle_AI_Ammo preset, but forgot to change the damage.


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Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 20:25

No, they're exactly the same.

But yeah, the Nod autorifle needs to do 7 aswell. I think they just copied the Autorifle_AI_Ammo preset, but forgot to change the damage.



No, as it was stated previously, it was meant to be like that. GDI are meant to have more fire power while Nod have its stealthiness and cheapness. Hence why GDI have mammoth tanks....


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348341 is a reply to message #348340] Tue, 26 August 2008 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 14:29

Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 20:25

No, they're exactly the same.

But yeah, the Nod autorifle needs to do 7 aswell. I think they just copied the Autorifle_AI_Ammo preset, but forgot to change the damage.



No, as it was stated previously, it was meant to be like that. GDI are meant to have more fire power while Nod have its stealthiness and cheapness. Hence why GDI have mammoth tanks....

Give me a quote by an EA/Westwood dev that worked on the balance of Renegade, and I'll maybe believe you.

It's pretty well known though that Renegade has some just outright weird bugs that you'd think they'd have noticed.


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Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 20:44

Caveman wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 14:29

Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 20:25

No, they're exactly the same.

But yeah, the Nod autorifle needs to do 7 aswell. I think they just copied the Autorifle_AI_Ammo preset, but forgot to change the damage.



No, as it was stated previously, it was meant to be like that. GDI are meant to have more fire power while Nod have its stealthiness and cheapness. Hence why GDI have mammoth tanks....

Give me a quote by an EA/Westwood dev that worked on the balance of Renegade, and I'll maybe believe you.

It's pretty well known though that Renegade has some just outright weird bugs that you'd think they'd have noticed.


Shit man are you serious?


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348358 is a reply to message #348341] Tue, 26 August 2008 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 21:44

Caveman wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 14:29

Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 20:25

No, they're exactly the same.

But yeah, the Nod autorifle needs to do 7 aswell. I think they just copied the Autorifle_AI_Ammo preset, but forgot to change the damage.



No, as it was stated previously, it was meant to be like that. GDI are meant to have more fire power while Nod have its stealthiness and cheapness. Hence why GDI have mammoth tanks....

Give me a quote by an EA/Westwood dev that worked on the balance of Renegade, and I'll maybe believe you.
Isn't being mentioned in the installer enough prove?


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348360 is a reply to message #348357] Tue, 26 August 2008 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 18:00

Shit man are you serious?

I'm hoping you're not thinking that I said that in regard to Nod being stealthy and etc. No shit Nod's stealthy and sacrifices firepower for that.

I was talking about how I'm pretty sure the Nod soldier having 5 damage compared to the 7 damage of the GDI soldier is more than likely not something intended.

StealthEye wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 18:19

Isn't being mentioned in the installer enough prove?


I haven't re-installed Renegade in ages, and due to me losing my serial key, I can't much re-install to see. If it's true that the installer said "The Nod soldier deals 2 points less damage than the GDI soldier" or something along those lines, please take a SS, as that'd be pretty nice to know.

And, hell, even if it WAS an apparently intentional thing, there's other games that patch things like damage to fix up balance. I really see no reason why Nod should have a weaker soldier (Who even has a bit of a bigger head), considering Nod is supposed to be the king of early game...


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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348369 is a reply to message #348360] Tue, 26 August 2008 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dude... It's part of the story line. It says something along the lines of GDI Soldiers being more skilled and advanced than a Nod Soldier. I'm about to go reinstall Renegade just to show you, like seriously, wtf...

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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348374 is a reply to message #348203] Tue, 26 August 2008 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Didn't they share the same exact presets in TD...?

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Xpert wrote on Tue, 26 August 2008 19:29

Dude... It's part of the story line. It says something along the lines of GDI Soldiers being more skilled and advanced than a Nod Soldier. I'm about to go reinstall Renegade just to show you, like seriously, wtf...

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Re: A few concerns/bugs. [message #348430 is a reply to message #348203] Wed, 27 August 2008 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cabal are you fucking retarded...........................
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blly wrote on Wed, 27 August 2008 15:38

cabal are you fucking retarded...........................

I've yet to see this screenshot, and I haven't installed Renegade in ages. I'm simply asking for proof of this.

As for them apperently being less trained, wouldn't that make their accuracy worse, not their damage...? Considering it's the same exact rifle as the GDI one, just with red bullets...


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The red bullets show that its Nods rifle and that its different. It was not a bug.. If they intended for the rifles to be the same then they would have used the same preset, no?

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The officer guns are the same damage-wise, but have different presets due to colors.

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Cabal8616 wrote on Wed, 27 August 2008 17:50

The officer guns are the same damage-wise, but have different presets due to colors.

i also would like to see some proof that the chem sprayers head is so big.

and why can the chem warrior go through tiberium while tib sydney cant?

why does the volcano lava not harden into rock?

why the fuck do nod and gdi always build bases so fucking close to eachother and never notice until the map starts/.......

id like screenshots and interviews from westwood employees.
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