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Commander A9 is currently offline  Commander A9
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Hey. I'm back. Don't play Renegade much, but I need some help, and desperately.

Don't know if many of you know it, but I'm an author. I write Command & Conquer stories for a site called http://www.greyarchive.org. I have 10 posted so far, and 50 more lined up, but I've run into trouble. I've been confused by an aspect of Tiberian Sun.

On the Nod side, after Kane returns, the mission is to recapture the Sarajevo temple. When you do, two mutants run out, saying that they've got to get something to Tratos. Now, if the Tacitus was on the Scrin Ship when it crashed, what were those two mutants carrying?

Another thing, on GDI's side, the faceplated Kane captured Umagon. On the Nod side, when you win, the normal Kane transmitted to the world, but the faceplated Kane watched and was teleported. Can someone explain who was the real Kane? I'm acknowledging that extra terrestrials sent Tiberium to earth, beamed the faceplated Kane off the planet, and also created CABAL, but I just need confirmation.

Can anyone help me?


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Tiberian Sun [message #34420] Sun, 27 July 2003 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i can
if you got msn i can tell you almost anything about the C&C storie line


Tiberian Sun [message #34425] Sun, 27 July 2003 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i can
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Or why not just post it here? It's not like it's a huge secret than only select few should know. :rolleyes:

This seems to be your answer to everyone's question.
Tiberian Sun [message #34436] Sun, 27 July 2003 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is a huge secert... ok ill try to fit it in or ill shorten it ALOT:

when kane was thought to be killed in the explotion of this tempel he really wasent in the tempel when it blow up. kane was abduted by the aliens we know as skrin and told of there planes. that is why kane talks about how he has "seen the future a tiberuim future" so he learns that the skrin are trying to creat a world suitibal for them to live in so he builds a massive missle cabipal of converting to entier world into tiberuim orginisims. the kane that is masked is the real kane he has just under gone tiberuim traet ments, the kane in the video is eather a computer recration of kane or it is a prerecording.

thats about it but a mod a wanted to do gose furter: (ill justcopy the storie line, this might also be some what true)

Every one knows in the being of tiberum on this planet was brought by a meteor that was sent by the ancient alien race, the Skern. They are mentioned in every C&C game even in red alert there is one mission where you see a crashed flying saucer. But in tiberan sun they are actually fighting over a crashed skern ship in one mission. Now the alien race did not want to hurt any one but when we killed Kane before he launched his Tiberum missile it spelled doom for mankind.
What dose Kane have to do with this you ask, well remember that fateful day when GDI destroyed Kane's temple of nod while he was inside. Well as we all know Kane got out but where was he for the past 3 years, he tells you in one of his speeches to his followers that he has seen the future “a tiberum future”. Now before the ion cannon hit the temple he was brought into a skirn space ship and was shown there intensions and was asked to build a missile that would convert the would to a tiberum environment. But Kane was never able to launch his missile and soon the aliens started to invade and man kind alike was told they where going to die. Now if you where then I don’t think id want some alien to tell me in going to have to get off my planet so then entire world joined together in an effort the save humanity and fight against the Skern. But the Skern where a peaceful race which offered to let both of them live happily on the planet at the same time. But this is where the chaos theory comes in. Humanity is fearing the worst so it thinks all is lost and never tries to talk with them just greets with tanks and guns.
So this is where the mod starts right in the begging of the new war the Untied world (which is a new form of GDI) VS Alain race. Both sides have difficulties and advantages. GDI now has even wider range of weapons and technology and has 4 times as many people as the aliens but are week against TB and are easily injured. The Skern on the other hand much stronger and has heavy layered exoskeleton and armor that no C4 charge can penetrate which forces GDI to create new weapons out of their arsenal. Also Skern where not prepared for war and only has a few weapons but can easily start building them but at heavy price due to them not being able to use TB for what human use it for.
Both sides have their ups and downs but only you will decide who wins earth over.


Tiberian Sun [message #34453] Mon, 28 July 2003 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, but what about Firestorm on Nod side, when you see a faceplated Kane, and we still don't know what the mutants were carrying.

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Tiberian Sun [message #34461] Mon, 28 July 2003 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What you see is the propaganda machine for Nod on television. It isn't a live feed, and it's doctored up, so Kane looks "presentable" to the public.

Reality is that he WAS in the temple, and got horribly burned by the beacon at the end of the first game.

He was patched up, and returned. No alien abduction subplot is anywhere in there, and I think Infinint is smoking crack.

No one knows what Kane saw for the Tiberian future. It is never adressed.

The most perplexing aspect of the end of Firestorm is the room with kane clones and Cabal intermingling. you can go in a thousand different storylines there. And why would a clone need a metal plate in his head anyways???

Remember, the tacitus was in pieces originally. Maybee the mutants are carrying part of it.


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Tiberian Sun [message #34516] Mon, 28 July 2003 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Ship that crashed in TS was built by Nod, possibly using infromation from the tacitus.

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But my main question still has not been answered: What were the mutants carrying out of the Sarajevo temple? It couldn't have been the Tacitus, because that was on the Scrin Ship.

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he says that in one of the movies

Tiberian Sun [message #34659] Mon, 28 July 2003 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Commander A9: It couldn't have been the Tacitus, because that was on the Scrin Ship.


At the end of Firestorm, once you win on GDI's side, the Tacitus pieces merge. There were two pieces - I guess one was in the temple and the other was on the ship.


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Tiberian Sun [message #34665] Mon, 28 July 2003 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned more about the background of Kane in this thread, yet...

The biblical background, I mean. the following is part of the story of Cane and Able:

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Able was the younger brother of Cain and the second son of Adam and Eve. He was the first shepherd, while Cain was a tiller of the soil. When the brothers came as a matter of course to present their offerings to God, the sacrifice of Abel—the first-lings of his flock—was preferred to that of Cain, who gave of the fruits of the earth. The acceptance of Abel's offering aroused the jealousy of Cain, who, in spite of the warnings of God, wreaked his vengeance upon the favorite by murdering him.

Abel, stronger than Cain, overcame him in a struggle between them, but mercifully spared his life. Cain, however, took Abel unawares and, overpowering him, killed him with a stone —some say with a cane, or even that he choked him with his fingers.

The place where Abel was killed remained desolate forever, never producing vegetation. According to another version, the earth refused to take up Abel's blood.

Abel was regarded as the first innocent victim of the power of evil

The body of Abel the Just, after many days of mourning, was placed in the Cave of Treasures. Before this cave, Adam and Eve and their descendants offered their prayers; and "by the blood of Abel the Just" Seth and his descendants adjured their children not to mingle with the seed of the unrighteous.



And I'm sure we all remember finding the tomb in the Nod Temple?

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What did that writing say anyway? Not sure what language it's written in.

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Tiberian Sun [message #34668] Mon, 28 July 2003 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think anybody ever translated it...

It looks a lot like Hebrew though, and that would make the most sense.

http://www.jewfaq.org/alephbet.htm

If anyone wants to translate it, go for it Razz
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It can't be hebrew because the first symbol isnt on there :oops:

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I tried translating it, but it doesn't make any sense.

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wasn't there already a thread about this?
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i would like to bring back this topic i written some time ago about the red alert saga being a prequil to the tiberimum era. http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=5560&highlight= with all of this new information i now know i dont get it. couldnt gdi have used the cronospheare and time traveld back in time to stop the over power of nod. the time between the yuri's revenge age and when the tiberium metour sent by the skrm is so unknown to me. i could really use some help explaning this. and does any one know how old kane is? he must really be some kind of alien i think or a tiberium mutant of some kind.

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That or Kane stole a Chronoshere some where and went to a time after Tiberian Twilight and then back.

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Commander A9: It couldn't have been the Tacitus, because that was on the Scrin Ship.


At the end of Firestorm, once you win on GDI's side, the Tacitus pieces merge. There were two pieces - I guess one was in the temple and the other was on the ship.
-setstyle

Not possible. The Tacitus was in one piece at the end of TS. It separated in Firestorm's Kodiak crash.


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