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Re: Tech Degree [message #345551 is a reply to message #344763] Thu, 07 August 2008 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm serious, don't go to ITT. You can still be a programmer at University of California. Not only that, but if you were in special education you can most likely get government money for attending college.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345552 is a reply to message #345551] Thu, 07 August 2008 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 22:47

I'm serious, don't go to ITT. You can still be a programmer at University of California. Not only that, but if you were in special education you can most likely get government money for attending college.

but wont some jobs look at where u graduated from and get less money? doitle
Re: Tech Degree [message #345556 is a reply to message #344763] Thu, 07 August 2008 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, they will most likely give you less money if you graduate from ITT. ITT is a fake school. They aren't accredited and their degrees dont mean a whole lot.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345560 is a reply to message #344763] Thu, 07 August 2008 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well i see that the community collage as a class for computer programming then a local university has i think a BS degree in computer programming and masters does that sound like a better plan? go to community collage for pc programming then move up to a bs degree at a university and maybe even masters


heres RCC - riverside community collage
program for computer programming in associates degree
http://www.rcc.edu/programs/certificate_details.cfm?code=44


then heres cal state
program for computer programming bachelors degree
http://www.csusb.edu/majorsDegrees/undergraduate/bsComputerEngineering/

that looks right correct? but one thing tho heres also ANOTHE program from the university that has computer programming

http://www.csusb.edu/majorsDegrees/undergraduate/bsComputerScience/

which one out of the last 2 bachelors degree classes i would choose?

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345572 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's what you want: BS in Computer Science. That will include programming, math, networking, the like. If you are more interested in database management, then look at a BS in Computer Information Systems. Both should be offered at all state schools near you. Get either and you're good.

You do not want to get an associates degree in computer programming. The only thing you should use the community college for if you so choose is getting general education requirements out of the way.

Once you get closer to senior year, go and visit the colleges near you on a campus visit day and try to talk to someone who is likely from the the School of Engineering and Technology. That's how it is setup at Bradley. The CS majors are part of the college of EET. This person you talk to will be able to tell you all about what you will learn, what kind of courses you will take, what will be required of you and what kind of employment you will find later in life.


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Re: Tech Degree [message #345576 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well idk about rest of that i just want comp programming with c++ and etc....my dad has a new friend who is a computer programmer and makes tons of cash im go talk to him when i get the chance
Re: Tech Degree [message #345580 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Tech Degree [message #345623 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ssnipe you need to understand all of that to be a competent computer programmer. Just trust me, Computer Science degree is what you want. If you can make it through that you will be a decent programmer, know a lot more about computers, and have great earning potential.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345637 is a reply to message #345623] Fri, 08 August 2008 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Fri, 08 August 2008 08:53

Ssnipe you need to understand all of that to be a competent computer programmer. Just trust me, Computer Science degree is what you want. If you can make it through that you will be a decent programmer, know a lot more about computers, and have great earning potential.

not saying i wont but i heard a few places the more experience u got more u can make and if i work on AS degree THEN transfer to the university for my BS for it when i done and graduate and get al my certificate i can get better job with better pay
Re: Tech Degree [message #345639 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You have to stop focusing so much on the money. I've seen a lot of people go into programs like Law, and IT (Information Technology) thinking they'll come out with a high paying job, and ending up very disappointed.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345640 is a reply to message #345639] Fri, 08 August 2008 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 August 2008 12:02

You have to stop focusing so much on the money. I've seen a lot of people go into programs like Law, and IT (Information Technology) thinking they'll come out with a high paying job, and ending up very disappointed.

which is why im trying to make sure hat dont happen im not trying to make shit like up to 150 hour im just trying to get atleast 40 to 50 maybe even more if i get good and plus i dont think pc tech or network admin or in ether of those collages so i care about the money nothing wrong in that Smile but i still thank you guys a LOT for helping me with all this
Re: Tech Degree [message #345660 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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An Associates degree is practically useless. It wont help your earning potential.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345664 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go do something you like. Even if you do earn a lot, the thing you won't be able to buy is a job you like, and that sounds like a rather important thing to me. Also, if you don't like what you do, I doubt you'll get that good at it, and you probably won't get that much money either, or have trouble finding a decent job.

You should really inform about the university and courses you will take. If you think it is interesting and think you are willing to learn more about it, then go for it.

If you want good advice on this though, ask someone who knows you well and got a BSc, MSc or such. They will be be able to give you much better advice then we can.


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Re: Tech Degree [message #345669 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well like iv said above my dad has a new friend who he says hes a computer programming and makes lot of money so im try to talk to him to see what he got and what he did show him the classes form diffrent schools and see whats better along with which school is better
Re: Tech Degree [message #345682 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so if i go to the university for computer scince that has pc programming it shows theres not much of any programming language there just a little little bit of c++ think i should take a c++ class?
Re: Tech Degree [message #345684 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Trust me if you get a CS degree there will be plenty of computer programming. Heck I'm in the Electrical Engineering program and I've had 4 programming classes already entering my junior year.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345685 is a reply to message #345684] Fri, 08 August 2008 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Fri, 08 August 2008 19:41

Trust me if you get a CS degree there will be plenty of computer programming. Heck I'm in the Electrical Engineering program and I've had 4 programming classes already entering my junior year.

cs degree? computer science? right so if lets say i go to community collage take a small c++ class for fun and maybe can help me out
(http://www.rcc.edu/programs/certificate_details.cfm?code=42)
then take BS computer science at the university and after that maybe even a masters degree does that sound just about right?

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345695 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The intro C++ class I took my first semester was designed for people who had NO programming experience. I went in only knowing how to program a TI-83 calculator, a programming language no where near as complex as C++, but I still found it to be incredibly easy. (would have gotten a solid A if I hadn't bombed the final. 32's hurt.)

If you get into the Computer Science program, chances are one of your first classes will be an intro programming class with C++. So knowing that, don't do any more than buying a $20 or less book if you want a jump on the class.



Also, I agree with everyone else.
Stop focusing on how much money you will make. Do not set your goals based on how much you wanna make. If I did that, I'd never reach my goal seeing as I wanna be a billionaire. (who wouldn't?)

Especially today with everything switching over to computers and new computer technology coming out like improved AI for example, programmers and computer engineers will always be in demand, therefore, you will end up getting some good amount of money (assuming you make it through the whole degree program and get hired).


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Re: Tech Degree [message #345706 is a reply to message #344763] Fri, 08 August 2008 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well i do care about the money and can care less about if anyone tells me to worried im sure i wanna do this not trying to be ruse i wanna do what i wanna do as a job jsut make sure i do it right to get the right amount of money....and i already plan on buying 3 or 4 c++ books but other then that does it sound right on what i typed that im do?
Re: Tech Degree [message #345719 is a reply to message #344763] Sat, 09 August 2008 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a big long post written up and the forum failed to load and I lost it... So I'm gonna go to bed... Grr... Anyhow Ssnipe dont take any programming classes at a community college, they wont transfer. You're throwing money away. You cannot usually transfer classes within your major. Just go to a real university near you, and get a bachelors degree in computer science. You will be employable, you will make good money, you will program. End of story.

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Re: Tech Degree [message #345723 is a reply to message #344763] Sat, 09 August 2008 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Tech Degree [message #345727 is a reply to message #345719] Sat, 09 August 2008 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Sat, 09 August 2008 00:16

I had a big long post written up and the forum failed to load and I lost it... So I'm gonna go to bed... Grr... Anyhow Ssnipe dont take any programming classes at a community college, they wont transfer. You're throwing money away. You cannot usually transfer classes within your major. Just go to a real university near you, and get a bachelors degree in computer science. You will be employable, you will make good money, you will program. End of story.

sounds like a good plan but im still talk to a pc programmer soon Smile and sorry to hear about the long post...i always copy and paste my text here on ren fourms since they dont save when something happens...even simply clicking back erases everything
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Find a job that will pay you to go to school. It is really a win win. You have a company who is invested in you and you have a job that is going somewhere. Plus if the job falls out from under you then you just fall back on that degree they paid for. Sure you are not going to start out making bank or with a great position. But you are starting.

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luv2pb wrote on Sun, 10 August 2008 10:46

Find a job that will pay you to go to school. It is really a win win. You have a company who is invested in you and you have a job that is going somewhere. Plus if the job falls out from under you then you just fall back on that degree they paid for. Sure you are not going to start out making bank or with a great position. But you are starting.

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