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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #341666 is a reply to message #341658] Fri, 18 July 2008 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #341690 is a reply to message #340722] Fri, 18 July 2008 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we can not appease sum krazy muslim dude

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Rocko wrote on Fri, 18 July 2008 23:05

we can not appease some crazy muslim dude.

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u6795 wrote on Fri, 18 July 2008 20:43

OH GOD I JUST SAW AMERICAN JETS OVER MY CITY WAR IS COMING

Also, Iran would not fuck with Israel, Israel would fuck their shit up so fast, by the time Ahmadinejad realized what was happening, there'd be no country left to defend.


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #341978 is a reply to message #341962] Sun, 20 July 2008 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you say "iran hates america" as if that makes them the bad guys instead of us (the west), we've done infinitely more to fuck with them than they have with us. as for peace between iran and the US, iran's already made genuine efforts to ensure peace, bush rejected it and then the US government lied to the world about whether it even happened.

as for building a nuke, pawkyfox is correct - you hear lying pieces of shit like cheney saying stuff like why would Iran need nuclear energy when they have oceans of oil - Iran went to the US years ago and pointed out the fact they need to export shitloads of oil and don't have enough for an energy program. US supported that. cheney and rumsfeld were in office at the time.

however, since the US is already sponsoring terrorism inside iran and since it's hardly a secret the US has already decided there's going to be a war with iran, suddenly anybody's surprised iran might WANT a nuke? what a weird perversion of cause and effect.

oh, and as for ahmedinajed's "wipe israel off the map" comment, please don't tell me anyone here still believes that lie


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342116 is a reply to message #340812] Sun, 20 July 2008 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Mon, 14 July 2008 10:48

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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sun, 13 July 2008 21:15]Yeah! Let's bomb them and waste another 500 billion dollars.


And make 1 tillion dollers out of the war, for the ignorant people out there, war makes money, if you know where to look. Smile

Rocko wrote on Sun, 13 July 2008 20:37

fuk iran we need to bomb them


Rocko, first thing you ever said that has made any sense, I concer, lets bomb them back to the stone age.



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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342829 is a reply to message #340722] Fri, 25 July 2008 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahmadinejad: "Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism? You should know that this slogan, this goal, can certainly be achieved."

Do u think it is a good idea letting him get a nuclear bomb?
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no, but then it's not a good idea for america to have nuclear weapons either. two points on that: iran isn't trying to get nuclear weapons, america already has them and so does israel (after lying about that for decades, then locking up the guy who busted that lie for about 20 years, and then refusing to sign any treaty to limit their use). secondly, iran doesn't want a war with america, america does want a war with iran.

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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342864 is a reply to message #340722] Fri, 25 July 2008 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you think it's sensible anyone having a nuclear bomb? I doubt anyone could truly appreciate the scale of the consequences of letting one go off, far worse - letting many go off.

America wants oil, Iran have oil. Therefore war.

(three-four years ago: America wants oil. Iraq have oil. Now war...)


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342889 is a reply to message #340722] Fri, 25 July 2008 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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your logic = fail. any sensible person can see that. Ask u6____ what ever numbers he uses, to ask his dad about this.

Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342894 is a reply to message #342889] Fri, 25 July 2008 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 25 July 2008 20:31

your logic = fail. any sensible person can see that. Ask u6____ what ever numbers he uses, to ask his dad about this.

Wait what?


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #342917 is a reply to message #340722] Fri, 25 July 2008 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I doubt Iran wants a war with either Israel or America. Ahmedinejad visited America twice not too long ago, and expressed that all nuclear weapons should be banned, and that the UN should be looking into making that ban.

I'm sure Israel wants a war with Iran, and that America (under whatever administration) will step aside and let it happen, though either way it won't be a good idea. Iran has major influence over southern and central Iraq, as well as Lebanon. Any Israeli or American lead attack on Iran would result in a jump in the insurgency in Iraq, and probably another war between the Lebanese and Israel.


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #343006 is a reply to message #340722] Sat, 26 July 2008 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Then he should openly admit that he either has nuclear weapons, or doesn't. I seriously think he does because of the way that they are acting. Ahmedinejad has openly denied that the holocaust existed, he's tried to cut off all western ties with the world. Now he's saying that he doesn't have nuclear weapons. Why should we believe him if he's acting like that? It makes absolutely no sense.

@U6795: I meant, ask your dad what we are doing over in Iraq and tell us what he said.


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Muad Dib15 wrote on Sat, 26 July 2008 21:53

Then he should openly admit that he either has nuclear weapons, or doesn't. I seriously think he does because of the way that they are acting. Ahmedinejad has openly denied that the holocaust existed

Plenty of people in the West deny the naqba (sp?) ever happened, is that so different?

Muad Dib15 wrote on Sat, 26 July 2008 21:53

he's tried to cut off all western ties with the world.

Given everything we've done to Iran, can you blame him?

Muad Dib15 wrote on Sat, 26 July 2008 21:53

Now he's saying that he doesn't have nuclear weapons. Why should we believe him if he's acting like that?

why should we believe him? given the fact we're the ones who keep breaking the NPT, are we the ones who have any explaining to do?


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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #343143 is a reply to message #343006] Sun, 27 July 2008 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Muad Dib15 wrote on Sat, 26 July 2008 22:53


@U6795: I meant, ask your dad what we are doing over in Iraq and tell us what he said.[/color]

Why my dad? Huh


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Itai795 wrote on Fri, 25 July 2008 09:11

Ahmadinejad: "Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism? You should know that this slogan, this goal, can certainly be achieved."

Do u think it is a good idea letting him get a nuclear bomb?



Why we should allow USA nuclear weapons?



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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #344464 is a reply to message #344459] Fri, 01 August 2008 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they want to go kill each other, it's fine with me.

America isn't the world's police. We should stop poking around in places that do not concern us.
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You guys know its not that we dont have enought oil, its that we dont have enought refinery's to make gas from the oil, we have to ship most of our oil out to get it made into gas then it has to be transported back to the usa, I think if we go to war with iran the oil companies will use it as an excuse to up gas prices saying we dont have enought oil..., and on the topic about the war, war has been imminent for the past like 40 years? 2000 years?
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Re: Israeli jets in Iraq...war imminent soon... [message #345399 is a reply to message #340722] Wed, 06 August 2008 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, nothing has happened still, and it now seems that Ahmadinehad could likely lose his presidency in a little while. Ali Larijani, the most public face, and leader of Iran's nuclear negotiation team is gearing up to replace Ahmadinejad in the upcoming election.

Already, Larijani seems to be the favorite of Ali Khamenei, who is the top-dog in Iran, and the conservatives within Iran are very upset with Ahmadinejad's horrible economic policies, and militant foreign policy.

It also helps that Larijani is a pragmatist who is generally unencumbered by ideology, and wants a solution to this nuclear situation.

This is probably why the US is slowly reaching out diplomatically... once Ahmadinejad is out of the picture, and Larijani is in, America will likely create more diplomatic ties with Iran.

This article by Time is a decent summation of what is likely going to happen within the next year or two.


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This is why I take a lot things to do with the Middle East with a grain of salt. So much of it is bluster, and political posturing, and it has been that way since the 1early 1900's.

pawkyfox wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 18:17

That's great...but I have a feeling that if the higher-ups in the Iranian govt want a nuclear Iran, then pushing out Ahmadinejad and bringing in a moderate will buy them ample loads of time with the West.


I'm sure they will get Nuclear plants, and I have a feeling in a few years, those reactors will likely be General Electric, or Westinghouse reactors built in the good ol' USA.

I believe Iran wants guarantees, and money to operate a civilian nuclear program, and I think the US will let them have it, but with American or Canadian reactors that render the waste ineffective for a nuclear bomb. The big nuclear deal between India, and America will likely set a precedent too.


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