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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #340076 is a reply to message #325506]

Thu, 10 July 2008 02:51

StealthEye
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The points fix is explained here:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=281299&rid=21143#msg_ num_1

I doubt you ever heard about this bug, but some people seem to think it was done intentionally, so perhaps you can clear that up. Smile

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[Updated on: Thu, 10 July 2008 02:52]

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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #340081 is a reply to message #325506]

Thu, 10 July 2008 03:25

Herr Surth
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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #340087 is a reply to message #325506]

Thu, 10 July 2008 04:33

StealthEye
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Thanks for that Surth. Smile

The points = damage thing Spoony talked about is not correct though. It should be:

damage = rawdamage * warheadmultiplier;
for infantry/buildings/nongreen health vehicles: points == damage * pointsmultiplier.
for green health vehicles: points != damage * pointsmultiplier

The formula for calculating the points is correct, although it is done before the points get calculated (it will do * pointsmultiplier later on)

so the exact formulas would be:
green health vehicles:
damage = rawdamage * damagemultiplier * warheadmultiplier
points = rawdamage * damagemultiplier * warheadmultiplier / warheadmultiplier * pointsmultiplier

other objects:
points = rawdamage * damagemultiplier * warheadmultiplier
points = rawdamage * damagemultiplier * warheadmultiplier * pointsmultiplier

This explains the high points for ramjets and such perfectly well. The rawdamage for ramjets is very high (200 opposed to ie. 5 for an auto rifle) and the warhead multiplier for ramjet vs vehicle is very low. Because of that the ramjet does not apply a lot of damage. However since the damage multiplier is missing from the green health vehicles points calculation, the points will be significantly higher than the actual damage.

I based these formulas on reverse engineering the DefenseObjectClass::Do_Damage function in renegade.

Thanks for the info btw, and sorry for getting offtopic here...

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[Updated on: Thu, 10 July 2008 04:37]

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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #340101 is a reply to message #340087]

Thu, 10 July 2008 06:29

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When I say points = damage, the '=' is basically an abbreviation for 'is directly proportionate to'

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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #344489 is a reply to message #325506]

Sat, 02 August 2008 03:44

LordMot
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Hey all,

Just an update on Army of Earth-

http://www.armyofearth.com/

I've just released a new version (0.522) including some of the features some of the Renegaders were asking for - manual teaming, private messaging, and a bunch of other stuff.

You're all most welcome to come give it a try. Ask for help ingame and hopefully somebody will train you up. The forums can help too.

Cheers,

LM

[Updated on: Sat, 02 August 2008 03:45]

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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #344491 is a reply to message #325506]

Sat, 02 August 2008 03:50

sadukar09
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Very nice update. Smile

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