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Radar hack [message #339804] Tue, 08 July 2008 17:11 Go to next message
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Will it finally be able to be detected and blocked?
Re: Radar hack [message #339828 is a reply to message #339804] Tue, 08 July 2008 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The server sets the radar mode but the client calculates and renders the radar itself. Unless we modify the netcode to make the server transmit its own radar blips this isn't possible server-side.

It will have to be client-side.


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Re: Radar hack [message #339832 is a reply to message #339804] Tue, 08 July 2008 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well since there is a client side to this patch 'I can' definitely see this being blocked.

Re: Radar hack [message #339842 is a reply to message #339828] Tue, 08 July 2008 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dthdealer wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 22:01

The server sets the radar mode but the client calculates and renders the radar itself. Unless we modify the netcode to make the server transmit its own radar blips this isn't possible server-side.

It will have to be client-side.


So you are saying that it is impossible for the new patch coming out to block radar hack because it is client-side?

If thats true then they would be unable to block *cheat name removed*since it is client side. Huh

Re: Radar hack [message #339845 is a reply to message #339842] Tue, 08 July 2008 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bulldawg wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 21:51

Dthdealer wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 22:01

The server sets the radar mode but the client calculates and renders the radar itself. Unless we modify the netcode to make the server transmit its own radar blips this isn't possible server-side.

It will have to be client-side.


So you are saying that it is impossible for the new patch coming out to block radar hack because it is client-side?

If thats true then they would be unable to block *cheat name removed*since it is client side. Huh



yeah, but there's ways to detect it, unlike radar.
Re: Radar hack [message #339861 is a reply to message #339804] Tue, 08 July 2008 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not saying it's not possible, but I am saying is that seeing as it's a client-side fix then clients simply don't download the patch if they want to use their radar hacks.

Radar hacks aren't even testable as far as I know.


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Re: Radar hack [message #339879 is a reply to message #339804] Wed, 09 July 2008 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There must surely be a way to check this. The hard part is to avoid it getting bypassed.

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Re: Radar hack [message #339908 is a reply to message #339861] Wed, 09 July 2008 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dthdealer wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 00:38

I'm not saying it's not possible, but I am saying is that seeing as it's a client-side fix then clients simply don't download the patch if they want to use their radar hacks.

Radar hacks aren't even testable as far as I know
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Yes it is, just hope the idiot takes a screenshot of himself cheating in action. (Check noobstories.com, there's a couple dumbasses who did that.)


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Re: Radar hack [message #339909 is a reply to message #339804] Wed, 09 July 2008 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blocking radar hack is quite tricky, I guess we somehow need to keep comparing the mode to the one of the server or something.

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Re: Radar hack [message #339918 is a reply to message #339804] Wed, 09 July 2008 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know blocking radar is exactly a high priorty when people use *cheat name removed*and rate of fire, but I was just curious since this will be stopping cheaters. Thumbs Up
Re: Radar hack [message #339959 is a reply to message #339918] Wed, 09 July 2008 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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in clan games, radar hack is quite possibly the most insidious and problematic cheat.

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Re: Radar hack [message #339964 is a reply to message #339804] Wed, 09 July 2008 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It can be blocked and it probably will be, but even if we block it, sooner or later it will be recreated. It can not be made impossible unfortunately.

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Re: Radar hack [message #339979 is a reply to message #339908] Wed, 09 July 2008 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 04:26

Dthdealer wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 00:38

I'm not saying it's not possible, but I am saying is that seeing as it's a client-side fix then clients simply don't download the patch if they want to use their radar hacks.

Radar hacks aren't even testable as far as I know
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Yes it is, just hope the idiot takes a screenshot of himself cheating in action. (Check noobstories.com, there's a couple dumbasses who did that.)


It is quite fun when they do that (check gdi.png).


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Re: Radar hack [message #340020 is a reply to message #339979] Wed, 09 July 2008 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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havoc9826 wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 17:03

sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 04:26

Dthdealer wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 00:38

I'm not saying it's not possible, but I am saying is that seeing as it's a client-side fix then clients simply don't download the patch if they want to use their radar hacks.

Radar hacks aren't even testable as far as I know
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Yes it is, just hope the idiot takes a screenshot of himself cheating in action. (Check noobstories.com, there's a couple dumbasses who did that.)


It is quite fun when they do that (check gdi.png).


With retards like that who needs an anti-cheat program.
Re: Radar hack [message #340077 is a reply to message #339804] Thu, 10 July 2008 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I laughed my head off at this PM
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Its extremely rare for a screenshot to do that, and they are saved to your renegade/data folder when you take them!
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Re: Radar hack [message #340099 is a reply to message #339804] Thu, 10 July 2008 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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radar hack cant be stopped?

i think this is gonna flop just like renguard
Re: Radar hack [message #340105 is a reply to message #340099] Thu, 10 July 2008 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Thu, 10 July 2008 09:18

radar hack cant be stopped?


No... you're not reading. TT will do their best to assure known methods are being rendered useless. If someone with the skill and the time to do so can figure out new methods, they could get around it, but then it could be fixed again. This is just like any other software in the history of time.

Besides, the anti-cheat is only one of the many components of "1.038". If the cheaters don't patch, they don't play with the rest of us, nor do they get all the nifty features.


Re: Radar hack [message #340132 is a reply to message #339804] Thu, 10 July 2008 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hopefully it will get forced on everyone(imo would be good) if the patch works alright.

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Re: Radar hack [message #340713 is a reply to message #339804] Sun, 13 July 2008 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it better be a official patch then, so everyone has the same shit running and hopefully no cheats, would be awesome
Re: Radar hack [message #340724 is a reply to message #339804] Sun, 13 July 2008 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman you don't play public so what do you care about official, spoony is blatently gonna force this upon .cc players.

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Re: Radar hack [message #340733 is a reply to message #339804] Sun, 13 July 2008 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't you just detect what the server's mode is every few seconds, then have a ::Think action to remove all non-friendly units? oO

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Re: Radar hack [message #340765 is a reply to message #340733] Sun, 13 July 2008 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stewie wrote on Sun, 13 July 2008 21:38

Can't you just detect what the server's mode is every few seconds, then have a ::Think action to remove all non-friendly units? oO



Negative, doesn't work that way.
Re: Radar hack [message #340803 is a reply to message #340724] Mon, 14 July 2008 07:28 Go to previous message
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NuneGa wrote on Sun, 13 July 2008 20:26

Hitman you don't play public so what do you care about official, spoony is blatently gonna force this upon .cc players.

i do play public... usually jelly nowadays but i used to gek it up in xphaze but it died awhile ago
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