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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337184 is a reply to message #336995] |
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Goztow
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This is useless: we're not going to redo this discussion once again.
If you can come up with something new, other than randomizing, using ping, using number of players, ... then we can talk again.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337197 is a reply to message #337185] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 02:28 |
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| Blazer wrote on Tue, 24 June 2008 09:28 |
You're saying that if it was randomized, they would NOT sort it, and just pick the server at the top, regardless if it had any players or shitty ping? LOL.
In my experience gamers aren't complete idiots, and usually have a clue enough to at least sort the server list by number of players or lowest ping.
If anything the playerlist should default sort by number of players, but that doesn't matter as it seems that every single member of the renegade community has a violently defended opinion on this matter, so I'm done talking about, and sorry I even chimed in 
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It does sort on playercount >.> Atleast 3.4.4 does.
And blazer, the obvious fact is that a0000 nicks do work, so yeah, gamers are "complete idiots" who just click on the top servers. If they weren't, we wouldn't even have this discussion about the a000 nicks.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337216 is a reply to message #337212] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 06:30 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 24 June 2008 15:03 |
Funny how everyone is against removing or stopping the a00 nick whores, wouldn't be the fact that most of them are collected to a00 servers and are just protecting themselfs. 
The server browser needs to be fixed, it should be at changed so a00 nicks are not always at the top.
It should be sorted by player count and ping.
Other filters could be included like map, server name (not nick) game mode, aow, dm, coop, ctf, etc?
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Get scripts 3.4.4 and it is already sorted on playercount, ffs.
Gamemode filter is probably not possible, since XWIS doesn't support that.
Sorting on servername is useless, as you'll get servernames like !!!!Someting!!!! just to get on top of that list again.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337296 is a reply to message #337033] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 15:44 |
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| StealthEye wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 04:39 |
The sortinging rules are as follows, read from top to bottom:
Sort favourite servers on top
Sort grayed out servers on bottom
Sort passworded servers on bottom
Sort clan servers on bottom
Sort full servers on bottom
Sort descending by player count
Sort ascending by ping
This results in something like:
Favorite servers
<Other servers>
Full servers
Clan servers
Passworded servers
Grayed out servers
Where each group is sorted by ingame player count and then by ping.
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I like that idea of sorting.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337297 is a reply to message #336995] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 15:44 |
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Randomizing it by default wouldn't leave servers with just 2 players. That seems to contradict what everyone said before, that the "a00 names don't matter because players go their because they like the server better and not because of the name" or something like that (that came from those defending the a00 name sorting). The truth is, both are right. Players will return where they have good experience, but in order to experience a server first, they have to get there. Alot of casual people usually jump in whats on top and/or what has alot of players. In other words, randomizing it wouldn't effect regulars, but the one or few time players (the casual players, or as some call them, the n00bs) would play around at more servers instead of always the select few that are really active. That's what I was getting at.
You do have a point though. Randomizing it isn't the way to go just because Renegade has a playerbase problem. Sorting by playercount is the best, but Renegade has a playerbase problem which leads to only a few servers even having good activity. Guess I was unconsciously relating the solution on behalf of another problem, but that won't work.
I guess going with how it is in 3.4.4 and adding on the ideas you guys have indeed sounds like the best of the choices.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337357 is a reply to message #336995] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 00:49 |
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Remains the question: based on what player count? A server with 22 out of 24 player slots will be lower than one with 24 out of 48 player slots, while it's more filled up.
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337414 is a reply to message #337379] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 08:35 |
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| StealthEye wrote on Wed, 25 June 2008 04:51 |
- I want to play at a server that is best filled up -> sounds like a weird critirium.
- I want to play at a server that has 24 players max, even if there is only one in currently. -> possible, but less likely than:
- I want to play at a server that has around 24 players currently. -> Most likely, imo.
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I agree. I'd rather play on a server with about 20-30 players. Small servers are just boring...A lot happens and it's too quick >_<
~Zack
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| Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337439 is a reply to message #337414] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 09:37 |
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Goztow
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| Zack wrote on Wed, 25 June 2008 17:35 |
| StealthEye wrote on Wed, 25 June 2008 04:51 |
- I want to play at a server that is best filled up -> sounds like a weird critirium.
- I want to play at a server that has 24 players max, even if there is only one in currently. -> possible, but less likely than:
- I want to play at a server that has around 24 players currently. -> Most likely, imo.
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I agree. I'd rather play on a server with about 20-30 players. Small servers are just boring...A lot happens and it's too quick >_<
~Zack
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Read: I actually need to have a valuable input or my team looses. *hides*
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