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JPNOD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 00:38 |
Surth wrote on Tue, 13 May 2008 15:21 | I think you've already played it once, TD.
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Once upon a time in the Walls Flying Mesa there was a Renegade...
He was a Nob, and good at his job. But then he committed the ultimate sin and testified against other Nobs - gone bad. Nobs who tried to team kill him, but got a Sidney he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands. An outlaw hunting outlaws, a bounty hunter - a RENEGADE!
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case closed, admin lock this thread please
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330476 is a reply to message #330475] |
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TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 05:00 | Someone ban Spoony, he is clearly very angry and furious because he can't win all debates, and suspends people or locks topics that come with good facts against him.
Then he lies about me begging for an undo of the DQ in private (so that noone can post the pm proof because I am suspended), whereas I have proof.
He doesn't want it, and thinks he has won it lol. No matter what you think Spoony, the majority knows the truth and disagrees with your biased actions.
Now don't go sperm all over this post with your stupid arguments like 'UR CLEARLY MAD AND THEREFORE NEED A BREAK + U BEG FOR UNDQ'. Just don't bother spoony, no matter how hard you try to, only people that hate me will agree with your statements. People who actually are neutral or have been with me on TS know the truth and know that I am not angry at all over the decision.
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The fact you simply cannot bring yourself to stop crying over a completely justified DQ (even in threads which have nothing whatsoever to do with them and on a forum where nobody's even mentioned it) is a testament to how truly angry you are. Furthermore, the fact you need to keep lying about the entire situation to try to influence others' opinion shows just how feeble your case is and always has been.
Get over it tbh... seriously, it's plain to see you're in desperate need of something to take your mind off this. Ironically I was thinking of unbanning you today, but since you're clearly still in a furious rage and you're never, EVER going to get over your anger at a completely legitimate decision, I guess I shouldn't.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330479 is a reply to message #330476] |
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Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 12:08 |
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 05:00 | Someone ban Spoony, he is clearly very angry and furious because he can't win all debates, and suspends people or locks topics that come with good facts against him.
Then he lies about me begging for an undo of the DQ in private (so that noone can post the pm proof because I am suspended), whereas I have proof.
He doesn't want it, and thinks he has won it lol. No matter what you think Spoony, the majority knows the truth and disagrees with your biased actions.
Now don't go sperm all over this post with your stupid arguments like 'UR CLEARLY MAD AND THEREFORE NEED A BREAK + U BEG FOR UNDQ'. Just don't bother spoony, no matter how hard you try to, only people that hate me will agree with your statements. People who actually are neutral or have been with me on TS know the truth and know that I am not angry at all over the decision.
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The fact you simply cannot bring yourself to stop crying over a completely justified DQ (even in threads which have nothing whatsoever to do with them and on a forum where nobody's even mentioned it) is a testament to how truly angry you are. Furthermore, the fact you need to keep lying about the entire situation to try to influence others' opinion shows just how feeble your case is and always has been.
Get over it tbh... seriously, it's plain to see you're in desperate need of something to take your mind off this. Ironically I was thinking of unbanning you today, but since you're clearly still in a furious rage and you're never, EVER going to get over your anger at a completely legitimate decision, I guess I shouldn't.
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I'm not even talking about the DQ itself anymore, sure it was legit... It just fucked up the tournament by DQ'ing 2 decent players, you could've warned and let it go, but let's leave that aside before you say I am really really furious about it again.
I am just talking about the fact that you keep repeating I (and simpee) am (are) 'truly angry' or 'furious' over it and that I begged you to unDQ. This just isn't true. And now you base my anger on the fact that I posted here about it, whereas you also posted, so I guess you're kinda really mad as well, because you are posting about it. Now you might say that I made the first post about it, but that's really a dumb argument.
Ljbh, you know I ain't angry at all, just trying to prove a statement you once said back when you DQ'd me, JUST to not be proven wrong AT ALL. You never lose debates, right? Let's flip e-boners daily over this, we have a real dicktator leading renegade clanwars.cc.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330481 is a reply to message #330479] |
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Goztow wrote | Back on topic plz, or this topic will be split.
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Frankly, I recommend that's exactly what you do.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | I'm not even talking about the DQ itself anymore, sure it was legit... It just fucked up the tournament by DQ'ing 2 decent players, you could've warned and let it go, but let's leave that aside before you say I am really really furious about it again.
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ok, light is dawning on you, albeit rather slowly.
Here's the rub.
1. If the DQ was legit, and anyone with the slightest amount of sense can see that it was (even you are finally coming around to this revelation), then you are entirely responsible for it.
2,.If the DQ "fucked up the tournament" (which smacks of overblown self-importance to me, but hey), then it logically follows that YOU fucked up the tournament.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | I am just talking about the fact that you keep repeating I (and simpee) am (are) 'truly angry' or 'furious' over it and that I begged you to unDQ.
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This lie needs to be confronted head-on. "you keep repeating..."
I made a grand total of one post announcing the DQ. That's all. It wasn't even the main content of the post. You and simpee complained about it OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I didn't even reply to the majority of them, I'd already said all that needed to be said.
so, I'd dropped the subject right after I clicked the DQ button - you kept bringing it up over and over again.
then, the community match comes around and you and simpee try to fuck it up, you lie to our opposition saying I'm not on the team, when the team was never yours to pick in the first place. Any objective observer knows you would never have done this if you weren't DQ'd, therefore it is a direct result of the DQ. Yet since the DQ was legit, you're in the wrong again.
(Still, even if the DQ wasn't legit, you would still have no right to do that in the community match, whereas I would still have the right to DQ you from a tournament which I solely administrate)
Even after you did that, what did I do in response?
NOTHING. I didn't ban you from anything, I didn't make a post saying how gay you were, I didn't announce that you'd be excluded from future community matches... I didn't do anything in response to your faggotry.
What happens next?
You carry on bitching and whining about the DQ. I eventually suspend you for a time.
Those are the facts. So go ahead and spew out this "you keep repeating..." bullshit; anyone neutral who's looked at the situation objectively can easily tell you're lying.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | And now you base my anger on the fact that I posted here about it, whereas you also posted, so I guess you're kinda really mad as well, because you are posting about it. Now you might say that I made the first post about it, but that's really a dumb argument.
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actually it isn't. I posted about something entirely different; you started crying about the DQ in response to a completely irrelevant post. Not because what I said had anything to do with it, but simply because I said anything at all. ONCE AGAIN, it's you who "keeps repeating" this crap, not me.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | Ljbh, you know I ain't angry at all
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perhaps; but anyone can tell you're obsessive. I'm not angry about this situation either, I never was, but you keep implying that I am. The difference is, I don't care in the slightest when you do. When I say you're angry, it clearly cuts you very deeply indeed, to the point where you feel irresistably compelled to try to prove otherwise.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | You never lose debates, right?
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This is a classic straw-man argument. I never said "hi, I'm spoony and I never lose debates". This is what people love to say when THEY lose debates and THEY would rather spew crap like that rather than admit it.
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 13:45 | we have a real dicktator leading renegade clanwars.cc.
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OMG DICTATORSHIP!!
sorry, but Clanwars.cc has always been a dictatorship, it was the case long before I became an admin there or even heard of the site. Many websites are, you know. If you'd prefer a system that resembles a democratic country like Britain and America are supposed to be, I'm perfectly open to the idea. It'll also require a "tax" system whereby players will have to pay subscriptions, however.
I mean that quite literally... we can make the Renegade league a democracy with absolutely free elections to decide who the admins will be, if a player subscription is in place. That revenue can be a "salary" to the admin(s) and perhaps a chunk goes to the site's running costs. Otherwise, I'll remain in control of who runs it.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330487 is a reply to message #330483] |
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Surth wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 07:15 | see above... the idea behind a debate is you pay attention to what the other person is saying before responding to it, at least that's the general gist in my understanding
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That's rather rich considering the fact you were wrong over and over and over again in the thread following the suspension, wouldn't you say? Remember? The thread where you kept using straw-man arguments and lying about the whole situation, like TD's done here? Bearing that in mind, it's no wonder you're sticking together.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330489 is a reply to message #330474] |
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Good job 'winning' another debate Spoony! It's useless to have debates with you, as many people have already experienced. You enter a debate with the 'they are all wrong, and I am not' thought, instead of 'lemme show them my arguments, and listen to theirs'. People who think that they are ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING they post, are called cocky people. In your case, cocky dicktator.
Have fun spending another half an hour trying to prove something that 99% here don't even care about and that 90% of the renegaders at clanwars.cc know you're just trying to win an online debate and do anything to achieve that goal.
You should know that I am not a liar and a fair player, as you should have understood from the robo case we had before, remember? Or how about that bot case where I invited you to the IRC channel?
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330491 is a reply to message #330489] |
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TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 08:15 | Good job 'winning' another debate Spoony! It's useless to have debates with you, as many people have already experienced. You enter a debate with the 'they are all wrong, and I am not' thought, instead of 'lemme show them my arguments, and listen to theirs'. People who think that they are ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING they post, are called cocky people. In your case, cocky dicktator.
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How absolutely unpredictable!
Thanks for demonstrating unequivocally that most of what you originally said was a pack of lies, and you can't refute anything *I* said in response calling you out on it.
Thanks also for proving me right when I point out that the "LOL SPOONY NEVER LOSES DEBATES DO YOU SPOONY?" bullshit is what people like you say WHEN THEY LOSE AN ARGUMENT AND CAN'T BRING THEMSELVES TO EITHER ADMIT IT OR JUST BE QUIET. Good job, dude. I pointed out this fact right before you very helpfully proved it for everybody. If this is the general thrust of this thread, I've got some other points you could prove for me as well?
TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 08:15 | Have fun spending another half an hour trying to prove something that 99% here don't even care about and that 90% of the renegaders at clanwars.cc know you're just trying to win an online debate and do anything for it.
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Is there no end to your dishonesty? If you had paid attention to my post (a rather futile hope, I admit), you'd have finally grasped the fact that YOU, not me, are the one who simply can't bring himself to realise he's wrong and let it go. It's right there in front of you and obvious to any objective observer.
As for "you'll do anything to win an online debate"... well, considering the fact you've just been caught lying to everyone here, the majority of whom aren't involved with the tournament or even the league, that's another shining example of how truly confused you are.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330499 is a reply to message #330497] |
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TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 09:17 | Debating with you has no use. Whoever has argued with you before knows this anyway, don't need to prove myself.
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There really is no end to your hypocrisy and dishonesty, is there?
"Debating with you has no use". In your case that's right, because every bullshit lie you've tried to pass off as truth has been completely ripped to shreds. It is indeed no use for you to try to debate with me, because you've got no argument that lasted five seconds.
You're feebly trying to claim that the reason "debating with spoony is useless" is some kind of ignorance on my part. That's yet another thing you're lying about. I didn't ignore your posts, I read and responded to everything you said, remember?
Debating with YOU is equally useless, but for an entirely different reason. In your case it IS because you're ignorant. You've completely ignored every single thing I've said in response to you, and it's obvious why; you're embarrassed about being caught lying, you can't think of a response to my arguments, but you can't bring yourself to do the decent thing, which is either -a- admit you were wrong, or -b- just be quiet for a bit.
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330501 is a reply to message #330500] |
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TD wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 08:32 | Isn't it ironic that almost everyone that has a debate with you is 'ignorant' according to you? Or are they all just like me?
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Another straw-man argument. When did I ever say "you're on the other side of a debate to me, therefore you're ignorant"?
oh wait, I didn't, you're using straw-man arguments again because you can't think of a real one.
Don't flatter yourself by the way, I don't think "they all" are just like you... some people understand this little concept called honesty
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330503 is a reply to message #330502] |
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simple really... just finally refrain from bringing it up over and over again, and I'll unban you from smak
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Re: Do you play Renegade? [message #330519 is a reply to message #330504] |
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done.
will unban simpee in a week or so cos he evaded it
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Re: Spoony vs TD [message #330567 is a reply to message #330474] |
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i dont even need to read the entire topic to know that spoony is being a huge faggot again
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