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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329392 is a reply to message #329384] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 05:49   |
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IronWarrior
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| Caveman wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 07:16 |
Yes I have that exact card 
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Awesome, can you please tell me what difference it has made on your computer, things like, fps increase in games, better audio in games, better pc over all performance and any problems you had with it, also have you noticed anything with the X-Ram, it seems to be just a gimmick as not many games have it supported.
I know there are vista driver issues for one and one last thing, what speaker set are you using? 
Thinking of getting this since it's my birthday coming up this month. 
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329399 is a reply to message #329392] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 07:30 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 13:49 |
| Caveman wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 07:16 |
Yes I have that exact card
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Awesome, can you please tell me what difference it has made on your computer, things like, fps increase in games, better audio in games, better pc over all performance and any problems you had with it, also have you noticed anything with the X-Ram, it seems to be just a gimmick as not many games have it supported.
I know there are vista driver issues for one and one last thing, what speaker set are you using?
Thinking of getting this since it's my birthday coming up this month.
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Unless you're using onboard audio that strains the processor to process the sound, You shouldn't notice any fps increase.
Anyway, $130 for that? my card has almost got all them features and I got it for $110 less.
pfft, day I fork out $130 on a computer part is the day pigs fly, hell freezes over.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329401 is a reply to message #329399] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 07:35 |
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| Ryu wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 09:30 |
| IronWarrior wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 13:49 |
| Caveman wrote on Wed, 07 May 2008 07:16 |
Yes I have that exact card
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Awesome, can you please tell me what difference it has made on your computer, things like, fps increase in games, better audio in games, better pc over all performance and any problems you had with it, also have you noticed anything with the X-Ram, it seems to be just a gimmick as not many games have it supported.
I know there are vista driver issues for one and one last thing, what speaker set are you using?
Thinking of getting this since it's my birthday coming up this month.
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Unless you're using onboard audio that strains the processor to process the sound, You shouldn't notice any fps increase.
Anyway, $130 for that? my card has almost got all them features and I got it for $110 less.
pfft, day I fork out $130 on a computer part is the day pigs fly, hell freezes over.
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Ah what sound card you using again?
Well my onboard video is kinda crapy, since my MB is a K7S41GX.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329407 is a reply to message #329380] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 08:43 |
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I had that same sound card, but I gave it to my friend because my motherboard already has HD audio. Its a nice card for the money, the only beef I had with it was the driver setup. The drivers had some awkward settings and functionality. Just note that you will never get 7.1 quality, or even 5.1 quality if you don't have 5.1 or 7.1 digital speakers. You'll be limited by your 2.1 speakers if that's what you have, and the quality difference will be minimal.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329429 is a reply to message #329380] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 10:20 |
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I will never buy anything creative again. Be warned that unless you are running Vista your drivers will be gimped and you will not get what you paid for. Even you you are running Vista I still think they are over rated.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329476 is a reply to message #329380] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 13:30 |
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My last two computers have had built in sound. My last board was awsome, this one isn't bad but it could be better. I doubt I will ever buy a sound card again tbh.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329534 is a reply to message #329521] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 18:51 |
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| Caveman wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 01:56 |
Sorry for the late reply I kinda got hooked on oblivion...Anyways, I noticed a slight FPS increase due to I was using onboard sound before. I wouldn't buy this card just for the performance increase, however, the sound quality is that much better then what you would get from a cheap £20 card.
I've been using this card for about a year now and I haven't had any problems with installing drivers or anything of the like.
The speaker setup I have at the moment is 2.1. I am using my stereo as my sound system, but until not long ago I was using a 5.1 system and when you're playing a modern game like BF2 (modern-ish) you can really tell the difference.
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This card is awesome, cheap? yes, affective? fuck yes.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329550 is a reply to message #329380] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 23:42 |
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On board sound is a definate FPS hit. That's why I need to play on fucking mono sound (laptop). But you won't gain FPS between a 10 € dedicated soundcard and a 100 € one.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329597 is a reply to message #329380] |
Thu, 08 May 2008 08:51 |
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So what are you really looking in specs wise for sound cards, the two that have been listed, one is said to be a gaming sound card and while the other is just basic, but they are both the same type, but one has something more then the other which costs a other 20 more.
Doesn't seem much difference.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329883 is a reply to message #329550] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 04:08 |
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| Goztow wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 01:42 |
But you won't gain FPS between a 10 € dedicated soundcard and a 100 € one.
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Not entirely true. It depends on if the sound card is hardware accelerated if it'll lighten the load on the CPU or not. If both cards are hardware accelerated, then yes it's mostly true that the more expensive one won't give much better results performance-wise, but if one is not hardware accelerated, it may as well not be there (since the workload is still on the CPU and not hardware accelerated on the card). Yes, cards do exist that aren't hardware accelerated. I'm not 100% positive, but I hear the Sound Blaster Live 24-bit (now known as the Audigy SE) isn't hardware accelerated (the original Sound Blaster Live cards were hardware accelerated though). Most cheap cards aren't hardware accelerated, or are very minimally.
Onboard sound these days is really good. Two to three years back and prior, a sound card was worth it, but it's less and less so these days. I used to swear by sound cards, but my new motherboard came with a sound card (which can be considered onboard probably since I doubt it's hardware accelerated) and after hearing it, I look at the price tag of a new X-Fi Gamer and say it probably isn't worth it.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #329888 is a reply to message #329883] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 06:01 |
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| Chuck Norris wrote on Sat, 10 May 2008 07:08 |
| Goztow wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 01:42 |
But you won't gain FPS between a 10 € dedicated soundcard and a 100 € one.
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Not entirely true. It depends on if the sound card is hardware accelerated if it'll lighten the load on the CPU or not. If both cards are hardware accelerated, then yes it's mostly true that the more expensive one won't give much better results performance-wise, but if one is not hardware accelerated, it may as well not be there (since the workload is still on the CPU and not hardware accelerated on the card). Yes, cards do exist that aren't hardware accelerated. I'm not 100% positive, but I hear the Sound Blaster Live 24-bit (now known as the Audigy SE) isn't hardware accelerated (the original Sound Blaster Live cards were hardware accelerated though). Most cheap cards aren't hardware accelerated, or are very minimally.
Onboard sound these days is really good. Two to three years back and prior, a sound card was worth it, but it's less and less so these days. I used to swear by sound cards, but my new motherboard came with a sound card (which can be considered onboard probably since I doubt it's hardware accelerated) and after hearing it, I look at the price tag of a new X-Fi Gamer and say it probably isn't worth it.
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Indeed. There was actually a onboard soundcard known for good/better performance then dedicated PCI Sound cards.
At the time it was just as good as the dedicated Audigy if not better.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/feature_soundstorm.html
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #330021 is a reply to message #329976] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 03:57 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Sun, 11 May 2008 02:28 |
Well any FPS increase is worth it to me, I don't often get over 40 in games, in Renegade, it is normally 20 or so in combat, but in COD4, it's awesome, good steady FPS of 50 or so.
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But it is worth paying like £80 for 5-10FPS?
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #330025 is a reply to message #329380] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 05:53 |
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For those 80 £ u could prolly get an upgrade that will help you gain more FPS.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #330043 is a reply to message #329380] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 08:24 |
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Yes, to fully upgrade my PC, I would need a new motherboard, memory, graphic card and maybe a new psu, would work out to just under 200 pounds or above it infact, I plan on building a new PC at the end of the year.
But I can get a good sound card now and just move it over to the new PC at a later date.
I can't upgrade anything else on my PC, am already using the second best graphic card I can get for my AGP socket, CPU is a A-Socket, so can't really upgrade that.
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| Re: Sound Cards. [message #330099 is a reply to message #330043] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 12:03 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Sun, 11 May 2008 16:24 |
Yes, to fully upgrade my PC, I would need a new motherboard, memory, graphic card and maybe a new psu, would work out to just under 200 pounds or above it infact, I plan on building a new PC at the end of the year.
But I can get a good sound card now and just move it over to the new PC at a later date.
I can't upgrade anything else on my PC, am already using the second best graphic card I can get for my AGP socket, CPU is a A-Socket, so can't really upgrade that.
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Save your birthday money put it towards a complete upgrade.
If you're using Socket A then you really do need to upgrade your PC . It is not worth spending all that money on that sound card for 10FPS.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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