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Poskov
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This is why the c&c series started to degrade; EA take over!
Tiberian Dawn: WW 100% EA 0%
Red Alert: WW 90% EA 10%
(Not sure about EA involvement, guess WW just made a mistake making RA a standalone game)
Tiberian Sun: WW 70-80% EA 20%
Red Alert 2: WW 40-50% EA 50%
Renegade: WW 15-20% EA 80%
Generals: WW 5% EA 95%
(Yes, Generals was going to be a Tiberian game, but EA trashed up the game)
Tiberium Wars: WW 0% EA 100%
Tiberium: WW 0% EA 150%
Red Alert 3: WW 0% EA 200%
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327333 is a reply to message #327331] |
Tue, 22 April 2008 16:59  |
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I think the 5% might have been minor concepts they made for Tiberian Twilight that EA might have used for references for both Generals and C&C3.
Also, the reason why Renegade is buggy, is because EA rushed the deadline. I don't think they actually worked on it, they just simply rushed it. Had it not been rushed, we'd have seen more game modes, more maps, more features (Parachutes, various interesting powerups such as the mobius shield, etc), better aircraft, and so on.
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327337 is a reply to message #327331] |
Tue, 22 April 2008 17:22 |
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I thought Renegade was delayed about 2 or 3 times... is that really 'rushed' ?
This topic is dumb.
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The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327338 is a reply to message #327331] |
Tue, 22 April 2008 17:26 |
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It was, but that was mostly to fix up graphics and stuff. Before, it had fairly low poly and low textured models- It wouldn't have been up to the standards of 2001's-2002's games.
I dunno if it was EA's or Westwood's decision to delay it, but either way, I would have gladly waited a few extra months so this game could have lived a couple more years (Not that it's dead yet, but yeah).
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327460 is a reply to message #327331] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 11:57 |
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About Generals, actually there was quite a bit of Westwood involvement. They originally made the engine, but of course it was for Tiberian Twilight. But even Generals, go on Frank Klepacki's site and you'll see that he made a theme song for Generals that was never used.
And about Renegade, Westwood had a MUCH bigger roll than "15%-20%". You should go read up on the interviews.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327673 is a reply to message #327331] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 12:45 |
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Small businesses that get bought out by larger companies often do better. The new company has:
-a larger base of capital
-established suppliers
-larger R&D programs
-name recognition
...and that's just to name a few. Do you people think companies like Linksys would be able to compete better on a global scale, and deliver cost-effective products if they were not acquired by a large company.
Same goes for a gaming company. A small developer that gets acquired by a large one will be able to expand their product line-up: either by being able create sequels and spin-off's, or by expanding over different platforms like the Playstation, and Xbox.
Renegade:
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327695 is a reply to message #327693] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 14:41 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 23:16 |
Yep, you are right. Westwood is a perfect example for your theory.
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How about the company 'Maxis' , which was bought by EA in 1997, and went on to create the 100 Million+ sales 'Sims' game?
I'm not saying all acquisitions are great. You just have to look at Ford's acquisition of Jaguar and Land Rover for proof of that. (both companies are now owned by Indians)
Renegade:
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327837 is a reply to message #327695] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 12:23 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 16:41 |
| trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 23:16 |
Yep, you are right. Westwood is a perfect example for your theory.
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How about the company 'Maxis' , which was bought by EA in 1997, and went on to create the 100 Million+ sales 'Sims' game?
I'm not saying all acquisitions are great. You just have to look at Ford's acquisition of Jaguar and Land Rover for proof of that. (both companies are now owned by Indians)
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You flip-flop more than the conservatives, now I see why you voted for them.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327846 is a reply to message #327673] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 12:54 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 14:45 |
Small businesses that get bought out by larger companies often do better.
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Renegade:
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327907 is a reply to message #327331] |
Sat, 26 April 2008 08:12 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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EA didn't quite "take over" back then. Rather, they were just a publisher. Although, they DID rush Renegade, so yeah.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: EA takeover [message #327923 is a reply to message #327885] |
Sat, 26 April 2008 10:56 |
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I read that 'manifesto' . Kinda funny.
What the author fails to mention is that blame should be on the gamers. Gamers have an insatiable demand for better graphics, deeper plots, better online gameplay.
I also find the complaint that '$55 is too expensive' funny. People pay $55 because they believe they will get $55 of fun out of the game. Simple economics, something this writer seems to have conveniently avoided.
If gamers decided that the games weren't worth $55, the corporations would adjust their prices accordingly, and believe me, they'll do it fast. Plus, no game is worth $55 in my opinion, and I'm sure most would agree.
*shrugs* I'm not going to make apologies for EA, or any gaming company; really, I'm not too fluent in the industry. You guys are the gamers... so if the companies piss you off, do something about it. Stop paying top dollar for their games, or stop buying their games altogether. They'll listen to you when their margins are squeezed.
Renegade:
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: EA takeover [message #328040 is a reply to message #327331] |
Sun, 27 April 2008 10:50 |
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games worth 55$? (germany 44,99€ - 49,99€)
-Deus Ex
-Return to Krondor
-Dungeon Keeper 2
-Diablo 2 + Addon
-Warcraft 3 +Addon
-WoW
-Gothic I, Gothic II+Addon (more common in germany)
-Team Fortress 2, Portal, Half Life 2
-Jagged Alliance 2
-Renegade
-Thief 2
Thanks.
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