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Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #325608 is a reply to message #325506] Tue, 08 April 2008 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nune I had that problem too, they kept killing my precious buildings. Sad

BAD BOTS! Big Ups
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Kinda cool if this was made into a Renegade imitation.

Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50

I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.


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LordMot wrote on Tue, 08 April 2008 21:23


Thanks IronWarrior Smile The bots are not very stimulating opponents, they are really just filler at the moment. But I suspect the game could be very fun with scores (or hundreds) of human players. With balancing and other improvements.

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LordMot wrote on Mon, 07 April 2008 15:15


Hi!

I was the online lead for Renegade, and prior to that Sole Survivor. Those were great times. Working with the beta community was the most enjoyment I had in my mainstream gamedev career.

Let me cut to the chase. I have created an indie game called "Army of Earth" and I have just announced Open Beta for it. It is crucial that I develop a Beta testing community. If you are interested to be involved, please contact me! Please note that it is an INDIE game; no manpower to create beautiful graphics. My focus is on online gameplay and I need your help to develop it...

I wasn't sure whether it would be acceptable to post here or not. If this is the wrong place or is inappropriate, I apologize, please delete this post... Of course I would not want anyone to quit the Renegade community.

Take care!
Tom Spencer-Smith
a.k.a. LordMot




so, you show us few unreleased E3 screenshots them?


samous wrote on Thu, 18 September 2008 21:03

Guess what? I'm trying to joinWNx clan! My new nick will be either WNXC130 or WNxSamous.

samous wrote on Sat, 04 October 2008 13:50

Awwww, pity. My join request was denied. I'm still samous. O well...

Re: Anyone remember me? I worked on Renegade and SS at Westwood... [message #325684 is a reply to message #325506] Wed, 09 April 2008 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I played it, it was amusing. I am curious how you would re-team players when there team loses. I mean, if there are six teams and you know that you will be re-teamed anyway if you lose, you might tactically lose at some point to ensure you're on a particular team.
Logically you would re-team someone who has lost to the lowest ranked active team. But an early suicidal base might mean that the lowest ranked team suddenly becomes allot stronger.
Perhaps re-distributing the players from the team that lost one by one to other teams based on the teams current rank (taking into account there team rank each time each player has been redistributed) might be helpful. But this could then lead to someone who has played awfully getting an eventual win, which is demoraling for players that are better. Unless maybe the end-game rank takes into consideration how many times a player had to be re-teamed...

What are your intentions on this? I am genuinly interested in this potential dilema.



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Hey, LordMot, I vaguely remember your nickname. It's been like 6 years, so... I used this nickname and I was a part of the beta testing from the first day we got our disks in the mail. I'll try and get a chance to try out your game as well. I think in the Renegade community you will find a lot of people who value playability over eye candy.

I'm the bawss.

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reborn wrote on Wed, 09 April 2008 02:41

I played it, it was amusing. I am curious how you would re-team players when there team loses. I mean, if there are six teams and you know that you will be re-teamed anyway if you lose, you might tactically lose at some point to ensure you're on a particular team.
Logically you would re-team someone who has lost to the lowest ranked active team. But an early suicidal base might mean that the lowest ranked team suddenly becomes allot stronger.
Perhaps re-distributing the players from the team that lost one by one to other teams based on the teams current rank (taking into account there team rank each time each player has been redistributed) might be helpful. But this could then lead to someone who has played awfully getting an eventual win, which is demoraling for players that are better. Unless maybe the end-game rank takes into consideration how many times a player had to be re-teamed...

What are your intentions on this? I am genuinly interested in this potential dilema.


Hi reborn.

At present, teaming and reteaming is random although you are assigned to the smallest team. Some other teaming mechanisms that may be incorporated in future are:

* Balancing teams for skill (based on rank points)
* Manual teaming - later on a server option will allow team selection so that you can play with your friends.
* Clan support - clan vs clan. I'm excited to have 6 clans battling it out. I may even expand the number of teams above 6.

The current implementation with the reteaming has a couple nice features:

* Players are active throughout the entire game, because they are reteamed.
* Players are motivated to play for whatever team they are on, because points are only earned when another team is defeated. Hence even if you are down on points after your team is defeated, you still have a chance to get into positive points territory on the next team. I.e. you are always motivated to fight hard for your current team.

But anyway, team dynamics will be iterated on to ensure fairness and enjoyability. I'm aware that this is a very important factor.

Cheers,

LordMot a.k.a. CodeMonkey



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Darn, duplicate post. How to delete?


Crimson: at last I am vaguely remembered! Satisfied

I hope you can spread the word, would love to work again with some of the original Beta testers

LM
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LordMot wrote on Wed, 09 April 2008 08:23



Darn, duplicate post. How to delete?


Crimson: at last I am vaguely remembered! Satisfied

I hope you can spread the word, would love to work again with some of the original Beta testers

LM


You can't delete a post, once it's posted it's here forever! (Unless you edit it)
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I still think you should look at PlanetSide and toy with the idea of making this a persistant world.

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Thanks for the tip - I will look at PlanetSide.

Army of Earth will have player-hosted servers, to promote scalability and to allow users to customize the server settings to their own needs.

However we will certainly look for opportunities to incorporate more persistent and meta-game content.
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Some of the names on the Army of Earth leaderboard sure look familiar from the good old Renegade beta testing days Big Ups Am I imagining it?

[url=http://www.armyofearth.com/leaderboard.php]

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The game's concept is nice, but playing with humans will probably be much more fun than against bots.

One small thing: no azerty keyboard support?


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this game is fun cant wait for the multiplayer Razz
great work Big Ups
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Goztow wrote on Sat, 12 April 2008 08:51

The game's concept is nice, but playing with humans will probably be much more fun than against bots.

One small thing: no azerty keyboard support?


Yep, need humans. Although I think I will also need to improve the bots for the fun factor.

azerty kb? What is that?
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Bolleno wrote on Sat, 12 April 2008 09:55

this game is fun cant wait for the multiplayer Razz
great work Big Ups


Thanks. Confusing, but thanks!
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LordMot wrote on Sat, 12 April 2008 10:55

Goztow wrote on Sat, 12 April 2008 08:51

The game's concept is nice, but playing with humans will probably be much more fun than against bots.

One small thing: no azerty keyboard support?


Yep, need humans. Although I think I will also need to improve the bots for the fun factor.

azerty kb? What is that?



I believe it's a keyboard with a different placement of keys, like the QWERTY keyboard for example.

QWERTY for life, motherfuckers!
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Thats a weird layout...It would kill my touch-typing. Strange how the right-hand side home row and row above it are the same as QWERTY
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Only Belgians could have such a warped keyboard layout Razz


Anyway, on topic, this game sounds like it could be a lot of fun, if I ever find any free time I will be sure to give it a go. Good luck with the game, and I agree that gameplay is always more important than graphics, although it's nice to have both. One thing that annoys me about recent EA games (BF2, CnC3 etc) is that while they might look nice and have fancy graphics the gameplay itself is appalling.


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I have just announced some coordinated daily play times, to consolidate human players:

7PM PDT and 7PM DST (6PM GMT) in GAME 2 server

The first such session will be for Europetonight (although globally all can play).

Guess what? You're all invited! Big Grin

Bigger play sessions (more humans) provide the best chance to increase rank.



danpaul - yep, there will be a lot of iteration to make this game better and better. Overall feedback so far has been positive and I haven't even done 1 live update yet...




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Renegade is living proof that graphics < gameplay.

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How could I forget the great LordMot? I beta tested SS. I was a sysadmin for SS. I beta tested Renegade and I ran the most popular C&C Renegade fansite - cncrenegade.com. I flew out to Las Vegas and meet the real LordMot. Sadly, that meeting was far too short.

LordMot is the real deal. He knows way too much about the real LM to not be him. I stumbled upon this thread while cleaning up my ICQ list and googling random people from my SS & Renegade days.

I'll be sure to check out this game when I get home from work. I'll also pass this info along to the few SSers that still show up on ICQ Sad
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