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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320281 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can use scripts.dll to change the update location.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320290 is a reply to message #320281] Tue, 04 March 2008 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 08:37

You can use scripts.dll to change the update location.

Not everyone has scripts.dll!


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320291 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny how "everyone" has "heard" the "rumor", but when you ask them where/who they heard it from, they STFU.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320294 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IF is does get released, it should probably (and probably would) be handed to BHS only. Then BHS can get coders under NDAs to work on a patch, and then release the patch after thorough testing. By the time any sort of patch was made, I'd be 18 and happy to sign an NDA to help test, but I think a 3D engine might be beyond my six months of programming experience. lol


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320319 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I reckon it should be given it to certain people.

I want to frame it on my wall for example.


Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320354 is a reply to message #320290] Tue, 04 March 2008 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 09:04

RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 08:37

You can use scripts.dll to change the update location.

Not everyone has scripts.dll!


if they want to updates they should get it Wink
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320362 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone should use the updated scripts 3.4.4 and be happy about it.

If a new update was made, it should only fix client bugs, nothing to do with balance or anything of that sort, only client bugs and new maps.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320421 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You cannot please all of the people, all of the time. No matter what happens, you can be sure that there will be lots of complaints. I feel sorry for software developers, all they get is complaints and no props for all their hard work.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320423 is a reply to message #320319] Tue, 04 March 2008 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One Winged Angel wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 09:02

I reckon it should be given it to certain people.

I want to frame it on my wall for example.

LOL.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320425 is a reply to message #320421] Tue, 04 March 2008 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:16

You cannot please all of the people, all of the time. No matter what happens, you can be sure that there will be lots of complaints. I feel sorry for software developers, all they get is complaints and no props for all their hard work.


But they make a ton of money for all their hard work. Programmers are the elite within the elite in IT.


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320436 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry to say but it is EA,

It wont come and if it comes certain people will hold ot back and probably build in renguard and what so ever.

Like Renguard stuck in brenbott you gota disable it yourself if you dont want it.

Probably they (who would get it)would force all kinds of nasty shit clients or server owners dont want.

This does not weighs up only I'd love the lag to be fixed.

I voted yes, but EA wont do it.

This is still the same engine as generals and what so ever (if im correct)
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320440 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If EA is going to release the source code of Renegade, it would only be to kill Renegade.
It's going to be a disaster. Think about it.
Anyone who understands just a little bit about coding knows that when this source will be released, it's going to be heaven paradise for cheat creators.
Within a few weeks Renegade will be crawling with cheaters, and it will die, just in time for EA's release of their new "C&C" game Tiberium...


Brandan wrote on Tue, 10 April 2012 07:13

Also what happened to you can change your ISP I doubt you even know what a VPN is or even a remote idea of how the Internet even works.
If I disregard the deficit of cohesion between his statements, and the lack of proper spelling and use of symbols I think I know what he was trying to say, and I lol'd. No hard feelings though Brandan Wink
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320443 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If anything, it's to be distributed to select persons only.

IE: The BHP team, Reborn team, etc.

No small mods or non-conversion mods as they don't really need it. They wouldn't be able to do much with it as their mod requires the game, and if they privatly patch it, it won't work with the game anymore.

Total conversion, yes, as they can fix A LOT of things in their releases (as they're standalone).

I voted no, because there wasn't a "To select persons only" option... >.>
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320445 is a reply to message #320440] Tue, 04 March 2008 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reckneya wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:19

If EA is going to release the source code of Renegade, it would only be to kill Renegade.
It's going to be a disaster. Think about it.
Anyone who understands just a little bit about coding knows that when this source will be released, it's going to be heaven paradise for cheat creators.
Within a few weeks Renegade will be crawling with cheaters, and it will die, just in time for EA's release of their new "C&C" game Tiberium...


That is very scary scenario.


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320469 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, actually this "theory" is more true than most people would think. Some people at EA (mostly 1 person) basically stated that something along the lines of renegade's source code being released was going to happen, "soon". The explanation was that not now because of the other things going on with C&C, kanes wrath, tiberium, and RA3, but to "expect" it when things cooled down a little.

My quesiton is this, apart from the obviously HUGE advantage I think having access to the update servers (let alone the source code), what kind of benefits would be possible from the (hopefully private) release of the renegade source code?


Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320528 is a reply to message #320445] Wed, 05 March 2008 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 23:40

reckneya wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:19

If EA is going to release the source code of Renegade, it would only be to kill Renegade.
It's going to be a disaster. Think about it.
Anyone who understands just a little bit about coding knows that when this source will be released, it's going to be heaven paradise for cheat creators.
Within a few weeks Renegade will be crawling with cheaters, and it will die, just in time for EA's release of their new "C&C" game Tiberium...


That is very scary scenario.


And not unrealistic, we all know how much EA like to grab money. Not that we'd buy tiberium, we'd just struggle on, or move to Renegade 2007 or something similar.


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320530 is a reply to message #320216] Wed, 05 March 2008 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OH let me think about the Source again... NO! They shouldn´d release it to
anyone. "Normall" Renegade still the BEST Game ever.
When you dont agree then G.T.F.O

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320532 is a reply to message #320528] Wed, 05 March 2008 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 07:31

Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 23:40

reckneya wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:19

If EA is going to release the source code of Renegade, it would only be to kill Renegade.
It's going to be a disaster. Think about it.
Anyone who understands just a little bit about coding knows that when this source will be released, it's going to be heaven paradise for cheat creators.
Within a few weeks Renegade will be crawling with cheaters, and it will die, just in time for EA's release of their new "C&C" game Tiberium...


That is very scary scenario.


And not unrealistic, we all know how much EA like to grab money. Not that we'd buy tiberium, we'd just struggle on, or move to Renegade 2007 or something similar.



It will be total chaos someone should take the source and lock it away and mayby fix some very annoying bugs.

And thats it.

Otherwise cheat-a-holic, and renegade will die!

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320598 is a reply to message #320532] Wed, 05 March 2008 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's always a big chance of the code leaking out if any one person were to get the code.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320716 is a reply to message #320443] Wed, 05 March 2008 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zion Fox wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:37

If anything, it's to be distributed to select persons only.

IE: The BHP team, Reborn team, etc.

No small mods or non-conversion mods as they don't really need it. They wouldn't be able to do much with it as their mod requires the game, and if they privatly patch it, it won't work with the game anymore.

Total conversion, yes, as they can fix A LOT of things in their releases (as they're standalone).

I voted no, because there wasn't a "To select persons only" option... >.>


Fuck you.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320757 is a reply to message #320716] Thu, 06 March 2008 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Canadacdn wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 03:05

Zion Fox wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:37

If anything, it's to be distributed to select persons only.

IE: The BHP team, Reborn team, etc.

No small mods or non-conversion mods as they don't really need it. They wouldn't be able to do much with it as their mod requires the game, and if they privatly patch it, it won't work with the game anymore.

Total conversion, yes, as they can fix A LOT of things in their releases (as they're standalone).

I voted no, because there wasn't a "To select persons only" option... >.>


Fuck you.

What are you talking about? Roleplay2 is a total conversion, is it not?


Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320772 is a reply to message #320757] Thu, 06 March 2008 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It officialy isnt a total conversion.

Because it still uses the basic renegade folder (rp2 is a pkg file)

A pkg is basicaly a mix file so a new map with stuff in it.
(correct me if im wrong)

EA should just keep it, if we are already getting fustrated what will happen if it really will be released?
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320882 is a reply to message #320757] Thu, 06 March 2008 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 03:37

Canadacdn wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 03:05

Zion Fox wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 17:37

If anything, it's to be distributed to select persons only.

IE: The BHP team, Reborn team, etc.

No small mods or non-conversion mods as they don't really need it. They wouldn't be able to do much with it as their mod requires the game, and if they privatly patch it, it won't work with the game anymore.

Total conversion, yes, as they can fix A LOT of things in their releases (as they're standalone).

I voted no, because there wasn't a "To select persons only" option... >.>


Fuck you.

What are you talking about? Roleplay2 is a total conversion, is it not?


Rp2 is not a total conversion, we decided to keep it as a PKG mod because that way more people will be able to see our mod being played along with the Ren servers and download it. Not all Ren players are involved in the community.

Regardless, if the source was released to smaller (but equally talented if not moreso) mod teams like ours, we could still make quite a lot of use in implementing new scripts etc. Zion Fox's snobby elitist opinion about this matter really pisses me off.
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320886 is a reply to message #320443] Thu, 06 March 2008 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zion Fox wrote on Tue, 04 March 2008 18:37

If anything, it's to be distributed to select persons only.

IE: The BHP team, Reborn team, etc.

No small mods or non-conversion mods as they don't really need it. They wouldn't be able to do much with it as their mod requires the game, and if they privatly patch it, it won't work with the game anymore.

Total conversion, yes, as they can fix A LOT of things in their releases (as they're standalone).

I voted no, because there wasn't a "To select persons only" option... >.>

That's just selfish. Why should you get it and not us?
Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320972 is a reply to message #320216] Thu, 06 March 2008 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Why would EA publicaly realease it? Thats the stupidest shit ive ever heard..I fully support BHS ONLY having access to the source code (when it is given).

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