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CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:09 Go to next message
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Good idea?[ 63 votes ]
1. Yes 37 / 59%
2. No 10 / 16%
3. Would be if we had a cool coder on the scene 6 / 10%
4. Would be if we didn't have such asshat cheat makers around 10 / 16%

Word on the renegade under ground streets says that the source code is being release to the public soon.
Whether it is or not I don't know, but if it was going to be released, do you think it's a good idea?

I think it would be the last nail in the coffin for the game and all mods based on it. I mean we don't really have a dedicated really good community coder here. Whilst some are pretty awesome, they are not always that active...
And unfortunately we all know it is easier to make cheats then to stop them. I think the release of the source code would compound the problem.

What do you think?


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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320217 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, it will have its upsides and downsides
a positive is we can finally get into the nitty gritty of the source and actually get some interesting shit done
a negative is like you said, the cheats.
so, I think it might be worth it, so i voted yes.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320219 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a Question, what can you exactly do with the Source Code,
Modding Groups like APB, APOC and Reborn already have theyr scripts
what they need.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320220 is a reply to message #320217] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah... maybe privately.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320221 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OH about the Cheaters, lets ask Crimson to ban 0x90 and Mandai´s serials Very Happy

Fucking Dicks, creating Hacks because THEY HAVE NO NUTS!

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320222 is a reply to message #320221] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:26

OH about the Cheaters, lets ask Crimson to ban 0x90 and Mandai´s serials Very Happy

Fucking Dicks, creating Hacks because THEY HAVE NO NUTS!

If only it was that easy.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320224 is a reply to message #320222] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Despite the negatives, wouldn't Crimson be able to pull some chains here and there to get some coders together?

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320227 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im sure, that many other coders (wich never played Renegade) will
take a look at the Engine Satisfied

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320229 is a reply to message #320227] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it at all possible that the source code be released ONLY to the highest level of persons within the Renegade community (BHS)?

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320230 is a reply to message #320222] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally Blue wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:28

MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:26

OH about the Cheaters, lets ask Crimson to ban 0x90 and Mandai´s serials Very Happy

Fucking Dicks, creating Hacks because THEY HAVE NO NUTS!

If only it was that easy.

Crimson has "Controll" with banning serials right ? we can ask him,
maybe we get luck. Surprised OH well, i see he´s not allowed to bann them,
they Payd for the Game and the Serial.

[Updated on: Mon, 03 March 2008 16:37]

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320231 is a reply to message #320230] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:37

Originally Blue wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:28

MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:26

OH about the Cheaters, lets ask Crimson to ban 0x90 and Mandai´s serials Very Happy

Fucking Dicks, creating Hacks because THEY HAVE NO NUTS!

If only it was that easy.

Crimson has "Controll" with banning serials right ? we can ask him,
maybe we get luck. Surprised OH well, i see he´s not allowed to bann them,
they Payd for the Game and the Serial.

Crimson isn't a he.


She can't ban people from the game, I think, only from XWIS.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320233 is a reply to message #320231] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally Blue wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:39

MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:37

Originally Blue wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:28

MadRockz wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 17:26

OH about the Cheaters, lets ask Crimson to ban 0x90 and Mandai´s serials Very Happy

Fucking Dicks, creating Hacks because THEY HAVE NO NUTS!

If only it was that easy.

Crimson has "Controll" with banning serials right ? we can ask him,
maybe we get luck. Surprised OH well, i see he´s not allowed to bann them,
they Payd for the Game and the Serial.

Crimson isn't a he.


lmfaoooo

buzzsigfinal

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320236 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320237 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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0x90 has never logged into XWIS, and doesn't even play Renegade, so what good is "banning" him going to do other than make him angry and release a new cheat version?

IMO a "public" release of the source code would be a mess, as the only people who know what do do with source code are either already in a project group, or are cheat-creators.

A public release of the source code without access to the auto-update servers would mean that after awhile there would be umpteen different versions of renegade servers and clients all over the place, not to mention would pretty much nullify RenGuards effect, as it wouldn't work on custom versions.

I'd like to know who these "underground" folks are who are spreading this rumor, as I have not heard anything of this, and I have my ear fairly close to the ground for things like this.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320241 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would say it would be a good idea to release it but only to the people that know what the hell they are doing and the people that do not make cheats.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320242 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just fix or update RG and many of the current problems are solved, better yet, force players to run scripts 3.*
make an auto update so nexttime someone logs into wol their game gets updated, then its bye bye R..H

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320245 is a reply to message #320242] Mon, 03 March 2008 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wittebolx wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 18:02

just fix or update RG and many of the current problems are solved, better yet, force players to run scripts 3.*
make an auto update so nexttime someone logs into wol their game gets updated, then its bye bye R..H

Shouldn't force people to download unofficial things like the Scripts.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320246 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They should be official cause people that don't use it get some advantages the ones that use it don't, and it would really have to detect some of their system specs cause old computers can't handle above 2.9.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320250 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's only good if it's released to trusted and selected people, aka Crimson, reborn, Blazer...blah blah blah.

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320251 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been hearing a lot of things about this potential Source Code release, if it's real, the Ren community should come together (all the talented scripters, people with knowledge of the engine) and come up with a way to use it to really improve the game.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320252 is a reply to message #320251] Mon, 03 March 2008 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Canadacdn wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 19:41

I've been hearing a lot of things about this potential Source Code release, if it's real, the Ren community should come together (all the talented scripters, people with knowledge of the engine) and come up with a way to use it to really improve the game.

No more BLUE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS

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[22:48]<APBBR> @V0LK0V: AOL COMING UR WAI K
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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320253 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade 2, anyone? Really, the engine isn't TERRIBLE, it's just got some glitches. It'd be nice if it had some more things like better vehicle physics and whatnot, though.

The source code though should yeah, only be given to a select few people. It would be pretty helpful to TC mods out there, though.

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320263 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As said above, if the code was released, would there be any point if we didn't have access to the servers to update the client?

I would love to have it for a other reason, burn the source to a golden DVD and then stick it in a frame. In Love

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320274 is a reply to message #320216] Mon, 03 March 2008 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pffft...
if the source would be released to one community
they would keep it for himself to feel cool.
owye 1 yet another thing.
FUCK YE IM BEING PESSIMISTIC
everybody should have to download the new game so, tbh whats is the motherfucking point?

i bet all you asshats wants something new
reborn wants this, voiltbloky this, oh and dont forget about v00d00. the whole game would be screwed in the end so
i voted no, and keep it like it is

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Re: CNC_Renegade Source Code release [message #320277 is a reply to message #320216] Tue, 04 March 2008 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I think Stealteye managed to solve blue hell. Or at least partially. Now that u mention it, it's been an eternity since I went into blue hell. I wonder if he made a serevr side patch...

Anyway, I voted for the last option. IMO access to the auto update servers would be way more important. Giving out the source code would help change things client side and the one saying client side says cheats, unless you can use the knowledge to update the client.

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