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I opened this thread because I want you to argue reasons for why the Sniper Rifle is better than the Ramjet, or why the Ramjet is better than the Sniper Rifle. Now I will say that personally, I believe both are good for different purposes, but lets imagine you only could have ONE, for your entire Renegade life...Which would you choose, and why?

I'll begin.....

Sniper Rifle

Pros: Its faster. It has a lower sound. Where it is coming from cannot be seen.

Cons: Longer reload, weaker.

Ramjet

Pros: Far more powerful, faster reload, the bullet is actually ''wider'' than the sniper rifle round, making it easier to hit with.

Cons: Slower, leaves a trail behind the bullet which is very easily seen, is louder.


Given that, I'm going to say. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .Personally, I would rather use the Sniper Rifle. Why? Because lets be honest...After sniping for awhile, if you become really good at it, 50% or more of the shots that you fire and actually hit with SHOULD be head shots, so its really not much different. Plus, like stated, its faster AND cannot be seen in midair. This means that it is perfect for ground assaults, and ''pop-out-of-wall'' attacks. However, that being said, the Ramjet is unsurpassed in anti-unarmored-tank destruction, and is far better if you have a lower skill level or are playing against someone SO good that you need that extra damage boost.
Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319102 is a reply to message #319099] Tue, 26 February 2008 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ramjet's a tad unbalenced IMO. If it had a tad bit longer reload and the trail lasted a bit longer, then it'd be fine. I still prefer the 500 sniper though. Invisible bullet, faster rate of fire, etc. In the end, the sniper beats the ramjet.

So yeah, I'd have to pick the 500 sniper.


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319159 is a reply to message #319099] Tue, 26 February 2008 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I prefer sniper rifle so long as you're not going up against the unarmored vehs. Especially Apaches.

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319173 is a reply to message #319099] Tue, 26 February 2008 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Calx wrote on Tue, 26 February 2008 09:15

but lets imagine you only could have ONE, for your entire Renegade life...Which would you choose, and why?


Since it is for my "whole Renegade life" I have no other choice but to get the Ramjet Rifle. As for why, it is versatile against light vehicles, 1 shot 1 kill against any character, and kill basic characters in one shot.

Also, the long barrel that protrudes in front of you aids you well in making a good shot at close ranges.

I hate if because it reveals your position. And if you are a good shot, there should be no complaints about a slow-reload time.

Cabal8616 wrote on Tue, 26 February 2008 09:18

Ramjet's a tad unbalenced IMO.


Not if you look at the whole package:

-1000 credits (that's lots of money)

-1 Ramjet (slow reload)

-good against lightly armored vehicles (that are not used much as a game goes on except Apache/Orca and that too on flying maps only)

Looks pretty balanced to me.



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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319213 is a reply to message #319099] Tue, 26 February 2008 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper Rifle Thumbs Up

Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319222 is a reply to message #319213] Tue, 26 February 2008 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ramjet's more useful.

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319297 is a reply to message #319222] Wed, 27 February 2008 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thread over. Rocked Over

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319301 is a reply to message #319099] Wed, 27 February 2008 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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BTW: Ramjet has a FASTER reload time. But its SLOWER in attack speed.
Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319302 is a reply to message #319301] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:58

Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but most people who post in this forum section don't really know what they're talking about


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319304 is a reply to message #319099] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd go with ramjet for its overall usefulness against mrl, art, repairers and not to forget: heli's!

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319306 is a reply to message #319099] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ramjet, because having to use 10 shots to take down an orca really, really, really sucks.

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319307 is a reply to message #319306] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some people simply say "Sniper Rifle" to boost their lowly egos.

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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319309 is a reply to message #319302] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:06

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:58

Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but most people who post in this forum section don't really know what they're talking about


I don't think theres a nice way to say this, but someone's a soar loser Listen
Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319310 is a reply to message #319309] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 03:40

Spoony wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:06

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:58

Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but most people who post in this forum section don't really know what they're talking about


I don't think theres a nice way to say this, but someone's a soar loser Listen


Oh no...you TOTALLY picked the wrong person to say that to.

EDIT:

lol


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319311 is a reply to message #319309] Wed, 27 February 2008 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 01:40

Spoony wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:06

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:58

Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but most people who post in this forum section don't really know what they're talking about


I don't think theres a nice way to say this, but someone's a soar loser Listen


Are you even capable of posting anything that's remotely correct? Especially after your "Rockets, Missles, Morters, Homers, and Grenades." bullshit?


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319314 is a reply to message #319311] Wed, 27 February 2008 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 03:41

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 01:40

Spoony wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:06

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:58

Sniper Rifle wins Big Grin

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I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but most people who post in this forum section don't really know what they're talking about


I don't think theres a nice way to say this, but someone's a soar loser Listen


Are you even capable of posting anything that's remotely correct? Especially after your "Rockets, Missles, Morters, Homers, and Grenades." bullshit?



Dover, you know, instead of attempting to lambast me at every corner, how about you go out and find a life? There are these magical things called 'females' you know.

Secondly, I would love to challenge you to 1 v 1 sniper sometime. You can use your uber 1337 Ramjet, and I'll use my horrible filthy and pathetic Sniper Rifle.

You have anger issues and thus feel the need to attempt and belittle people on a forum instead of just contesting their views because you, haha, well, have no real control over your life, which spawns anger. I'm sure you'll reply with a 'witty' comeback and attempt to deflect it, but hey, it doesn't change the truth.

On another note, the rcokets missles mortars etc, thing.....I'm perfectly correct on all of that. Its meerly an observation. If you don't agree, then so what? Get over it or heres a brand new idea, state YOUR idea instead of just calling everyone an idiot and thinking yourself so high and mighty. Honestly, what the fuck is your problem dude? This is a game forum. How about you go out and do something productive instead of harassing me all day. Oh wait, ROFL, I forgot, you: ''Do have a life'', and ''It only takes a few seconds post'', and ''But its so easy to point out your failings''. And I'm Bill Clinton.

Dover fails as usual.


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319323 is a reply to message #319319] Wed, 27 February 2008 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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T0RN wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:07

soar loser

You can't even spell sore right, stfu.


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Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 03:40

I don't think theres a nice way to say this, but someone's a soar loser Listen

There's no relevant way to say it, either, judging by your post.

Calx wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 03:40

Secondly, I would love to challenge you to 1 v 1 sniper sometime. You can use your uber 1337 Ramjet, and I'll use my horrible filthy and pathetic Sniper Rifle.

You don't know this game very well if you think that contest could possibly demonstrate which of the two is better.
Patch vs Technician 1v1? Patch will win, but he's still of very little practical use whereas the Technician is extraordinarily useful.

Sniping is a very small part of Renegade. Dealing with enemy vehicles is a massive part of it. If we're talking about light vehicles and aircraft, the Ramjet is far superior. If we're talking about picking off their infantry support, the Ramjet is somewhat superior. All you are taking into account is a 1v1 sniper fight, which
-a- doesn't take the skill of the participants into account
-b- (more pressingly) absolutely pales by comparison, in terms of importance, to the scenarios I mentioned.

Thus, the Ramjet is better - it is more useful.


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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319325 is a reply to message #319323] Wed, 27 February 2008 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:56

T0RN wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:07

soar loser

You can't even spell sore right, stfu.

omfg sadukar, its amazing how seriously retarded you are.


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Dover, you know, instead of attempting to lambast me at every corner, how about you go out and find a life? There are these magical things called 'females' you know.

And do you know the magical thing called ad hominem?
Its an evil spell, casted by morons and assholes most of the time.
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Surth wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 06:33

sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:56

T0RN wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:07

soar loser

You can't even spell sore right, stfu.

omfg sadukar, its amazing how seriously retarded you are.



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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #319337 is a reply to message #319099] Wed, 27 February 2008 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Back to topic....

Sniper Rifles, good for REAL sniping, involves hiding in the battle field and sniping techs and hotwires or other snipers, because you cant be seen that easily. 500's are generally for the more crafty and devious.

However, in tunnel combat, Ramjets FTW. Reload time REALLY matters in tunnel combat but not so much when sniping 'non' sniper prey.

My theory is that if you can get good with 500's, you can seriously start to own with Jets, especially if you try to not get lazy by going for body shots.

I dont know if any1 else thinks so but it always puts a smile on my face when I take down a ramjet with a 500 Smile
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kannies wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 08:00

Back to topic....

Sniper Rifles, good for REAL sniping, involves hiding in the battle field and sniping techs and hotwires or other snipers, because you cant be seen that easily. 500's are generally for the more crafty and devious.

However, in tunnel combat, Ramjets FTW. Reload time REALLY matters in tunnel combat but not so much when sniping 'non' sniper prey.

My theory is that if you can get good with 500's, you can seriously start to own with Jets, especially if you try to not get lazy by going for body shots.

I dont know if any1 else thinks so but it always puts a smile on my face when I take down a ramjet with a 500 Smile


the problem is that "REAL sniping" is absolutely worthless, because the enemy will just steamroll you with tanks...
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Surth wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 09:07

kannies wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 08:00

Back to topic....

Sniper Rifles, good for REAL sniping, involves hiding in the battle field and sniping techs and hotwires or other snipers, because you cant be seen that easily. 500's are generally for the more crafty and devious.

However, in tunnel combat, Ramjets FTW. Reload time REALLY matters in tunnel combat but not so much when sniping 'non' sniper prey.

My theory is that if you can get good with 500's, you can seriously start to own with Jets, especially if you try to not get lazy by going for body shots.

I dont know if any1 else thinks so but it always puts a smile on my face when I take down a ramjet with a 500 Smile


the problem is that "REAL sniping" is absolutely worthless, because the enemy will just steamroll you with tanks...

Not always. Sometimes I will be able to get to the nod sniper bunker on field just before nod takes the field and be able to take out some techs or enemy snipers that way. The only annoying part is occasionally an SBH may come by, but I ussually go unseem for a pretty long time.


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