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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315000 is a reply to message #314888] |
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| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 22:41 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 18:48 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 17:59 |
I see religion as nothing more than:
A. A tool used over the ages to control people.
B. A safety net to make humans feel good about themselves.
I wish I could believe in an eternal nirvana....*Sigh*.
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Why don't you? Why can't you believe that there is something greater than all of us out there? Go to church once and you'd be suprised at how the day you go, they talk about something that is happening in your life right then. It's amazing.
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If you think about it, god creates all of us. God puts us through pain and suffering. Then god destroys us in a fiery maelstrom. I would never believe in or worship such a so called ''loving'' entity.
Another little fact I find interesting...It says in the bible that God creates man in his image, and essentially, programms each human uniquely to serve a purpose in his grand scheme. Which means when a robber kills an old lady for her purse, god made it so, to aid in his grand plan. Then that robber goes to hell fires. He predestines humans to be damned for eternity to blazing painful flames? So loving is he.
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Think free will. He said that we can do what ever we want. Thats what people don't seem to understand. If we choose to kill someone, He can't do anything about it until we die.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315009 is a reply to message #315000] |
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 15:16 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 22:41 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 18:48 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 17:59 |
I see religion as nothing more than:
A. A tool used over the ages to control people.
B. A safety net to make humans feel good about themselves.
I wish I could believe in an eternal nirvana....*Sigh*.
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Why don't you? Why can't you believe that there is something greater than all of us out there? Go to church once and you'd be suprised at how the day you go, they talk about something that is happening in your life right then. It's amazing.
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If you think about it, god creates all of us. God puts us through pain and suffering. Then god destroys us in a fiery maelstrom. I would never believe in or worship such a so called ''loving'' entity.
Another little fact I find interesting...It says in the bible that God creates man in his image, and essentially, programms each human uniquely to serve a purpose in his grand scheme. Which means when a robber kills an old lady for her purse, god made it so, to aid in his grand plan. Then that robber goes to hell fires. He predestines humans to be damned for eternity to blazing painful flames? So loving is he.
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Think free will. He said that we can do what ever we want. Thats what people don't seem to understand. If we choose to kill someone, He can't do anything about it until we die.
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Humans don't have free will. They were created in God's visage, and God knows and sees all. Therefore he sees the robber kill the lady before it ever happens, but does nothing to prevent it because its part of his grand plan. Not exactly my kind of god.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315067 is a reply to message #315053] |
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315070 is a reply to message #315067] |
Fri, 01 February 2008 23:00 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315072 is a reply to message #315070] |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315199 is a reply to message #315072] |
Sat, 02 February 2008 23:19 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315204 is a reply to message #315199] |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315229 is a reply to message #315204] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 09:04 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315239 is a reply to message #315229] |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 08:04 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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In this case. Yes.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315241 is a reply to message #315229] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 10:48 |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 08:04 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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Not to be a dick or anything...
...But what you believe is pretty silly.
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| Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315244 is a reply to message #315241] |
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 11:48 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 08:04 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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Not to be a dick or anything...
...But what you believe is pretty silly.
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Lets not forget, what he believes isn't even whats recorded in the bible. Are you perhaps, a mormon?
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| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 09:50 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 11:48 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 08:04 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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Not to be a dick or anything...
...But what you believe is pretty silly.
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Lets not forget, what he believes isn't even whats recorded in the bible. Are you perhaps, a mormon?
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A mormon? Me?
Lol.
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 11:51 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 09:50 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 11:48 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 08:04 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:56 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 00:19 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:00 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?
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Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.
He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.
You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.
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The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...
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I lol'ed.
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Is it necessary to laugh at what I believe?
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Not to be a dick or anything...
...But what you believe is pretty silly.
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Lets not forget, what he believes isn't even whats recorded in the bible. Are you perhaps, a mormon?
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A mormon? Me?
Lol.
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Sorry, I was aiming that towards Muad ;/
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| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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No, I'm not a mormon, I'm a Catholic.
You are twisting the bible's words into pretzels. God CREATED man in his image. He isn't the robber and he isn't the old lady. He gave us FREE WILL TO DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK WE WANT because we were fucking CREATED. WTF are you saying, "he predestines history." Maybe he does. But he gave us free will to do WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO. It isn't our job to know what goes on in the creator's mind. If you feel that you need to laugh at what me and Sniper believe, then just GTFO THIS THREAD. This also goes for twisting the bible into saying what you want it to say.
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 14:08 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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No, I'm not a mormon, I'm a Catholic.
You are twisting the bible's words into pretzels. God CREATED man in his image. He isn't the robber and he isn't the old lady. He gave us FREE WILL TO DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK WE WANT because we were fucking CREATED. WTF are you saying, "he predestines history." Maybe he does. But he gave us free will to do WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO. It isn't our job to know what goes on in the creator's mind. If you feel that you need to laugh at what me and Sniper believe, then just GTFO THIS THREAD. This also goes for twisting the bible into saying what you want it to say.
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I lol'ed at your lack of biblical knowledge.
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| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:10 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 14:08 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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No, I'm not a mormon, I'm a Catholic.
You are twisting the bible's words into pretzels. God CREATED man in his image. He isn't the robber and he isn't the old lady. He gave us FREE WILL TO DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK WE WANT because we were fucking CREATED. WTF are you saying, "he predestines history." Maybe he does. But he gave us free will to do WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO. It isn't our job to know what goes on in the creator's mind. If you feel that you need to laugh at what me and Sniper believe, then just GTFO THIS THREAD. This also goes for twisting the bible into saying what you want it to say.
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I lol'ed at your lack of biblical knowledge.
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SHUTUP! What we are saying comes from priests, which have studied the bible their ENTIRE LIVES! AND based on YOUR lack of biblical knowledge, YOU don't know that the bible has more to it than the literal meaning in the text.
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:22 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:10 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 14:08 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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No, I'm not a mormon, I'm a Catholic.
You are twisting the bible's words into pretzels. God CREATED man in his image. He isn't the robber and he isn't the old lady. He gave us FREE WILL TO DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK WE WANT because we were fucking CREATED. WTF are you saying, "he predestines history." Maybe he does. But he gave us free will to do WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO. It isn't our job to know what goes on in the creator's mind. If you feel that you need to laugh at what me and Sniper believe, then just GTFO THIS THREAD. This also goes for twisting the bible into saying what you want it to say.
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I lol'ed at your lack of biblical knowledge.
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SHUTUP! What we are saying comes from priests, which have studied the bible their ENTIRE LIVES! AND based on YOUR lack of biblical knowledge, YOU don't know that the bible has more to it than the literal meaning in the text.
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Ah so instead of actually studying the bible yourself, you take the word of some ass-plundering catholic priests?
I lol'ed.
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| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:27 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:22 |
| MWright967 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:10 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 14:08 |
| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48 |
He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.
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Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.
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No, I'm not a mormon, I'm a Catholic.
You are twisting the bible's words into pretzels. God CREATED man in his image. He isn't the robber and he isn't the old lady. He gave us FREE WILL TO DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK WE WANT because we were fucking CREATED. WTF are you saying, "he predestines history." Maybe he does. But he gave us free will to do WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO. It isn't our job to know what goes on in the creator's mind. If you feel that you need to laugh at what me and Sniper believe, then just GTFO THIS THREAD. This also goes for twisting the bible into saying what you want it to say.
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I lol'ed at your lack of biblical knowledge.
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SHUTUP! What we are saying comes from priests, which have studied the bible their ENTIRE LIVES! AND based on YOUR lack of biblical knowledge, YOU don't know that the bible has more to it than the literal meaning in the text.
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Ah so instead of actually studying the bible yourself, you take the word of some ass-plundering catholic priests?
I lol'ed.
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So you expect all Christians and Catholics to over-obsess and memorize the whole bible?
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