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Fri, 11 January 2008 19:37 |
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Pregnant Marine's grave apparently found
Quote: | JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - Authorities said Friday they believe they found the shallow grave of a pregnant Marine in the back yard of a comrade she accused of rape, along with evidence inside his home that suggested she had been killed.
Investigators are treating the case as a homicide, said Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown. But the prime suspect left a note insisting Lance Cpl. Maria Frances Lauterbach had killed herself, Brown said.
After some slight digging in a fire pit discovered in the yard of Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean, detectives found what "appeared to be burnt human remains," Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Friday night.
"We think we have found what will (contain) the skeletal remains of Maria Lauterbach," Hudson said. Authorities placed a tarp and two white tents over the area and planned to begin slowly scraping the earth with garden tools Saturday morning.
Lauterbach, 20, vanished three weeks ago, days after she talked to military prosecutors about a rape case against Laurean, who remains at large. Authorities said Friday that information from another woman, a former Marine, left them certain that she is dead.
Before fleeing Jacksonville on Friday, Laurean left a note that said Lauterbach had "come to his residence and cut her (own) throat," Brown said.
But crime scene investigators found blood stains and obvious signs of that a cleanup had taken place inside the home, Brown said late Friday.
"Evidence now is showing that what he claimed happened didn't happen," Brown said.
Authorities learned about the note from Laurean's wife, a person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. In the note, the person said, Laurean wrote that he had nothing to do with Lauterbach's suicide, but that he had buried her body.
Laurean's wife Christina is "heartbroken," said her mother, Debbie Sue Shifflet.
"I feel sorry for the other family," Shifflet said. "It's horrible what they're going through. My heart goes out to them."
Authorities on foot and all-terrain vehicles searched Laurean's neighborhood near Camp Lejeune on Friday. Megan Melton, who lives nearby, said dozens of vultures had descended on the area in the past few weeks.
Although the outdoor search was suspended for the night, investigators from the State Bureau of Investigation moved indoors and began a search for blood and other evidence inside his one-story, brown brick ranch home.
The search continued late Friday for Laurean, a 21-year-old from Clark County, Nev., who had refused to meet with investigators and apparently left the area without telling his lawyers where he was going, the sheriff said.
Lauterbach met with military prosecutors in December to discuss pursuing rape charges against Laurean, said Kevin Marks, supervisory agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service at Camp Lejeune. He said military prosecutors believed they had enough evidence to argue that the case should go to trial.
In court papers filed this week, prosecutors said the anticipated birth of the baby "might provide evidentiary credence to charges she lodged with military authorities that she was sexually assaulted." Lauterbach reported the rape in April and was due to give birth in mid-February, authorities said.
In a brief interview with reporters outside the family's home in Vandalia, Ohio, Lauterbach's uncle, Pete Steiner, said the rapist was the father.
Authorities said they were not concerned that Laurean would flee because they had information the pair carried on a "friendly relationship" even after she reported the assault to military authorities. There is no indication Lauterbach asked the military to protect her after she leveled the rape allegations, investigators said.
Steiner, however, said his niece didn't have any kind of relationship with her attacker, and that Lauterbach had been forced to rent a room off base because of harassment at Camp Lejeune.
"She was raped," Steiner said. "The Marines, unfortunately, did not protect her, and now she's dead."
Originally from Dayton, Ohio, Lauterbach was reported missing Dec. 19 by her mother, who last spoke with her daughter on Dec. 14, authorities said. Her cell phone was found Dec. 20 near the main gate at Camp Lejeune, and she missed a Dec. 26 prenatal care appointment.
Lauterbach was assigned to the 2nd Marine Logistics Group of the II Marine Expeditionary Force, based at Camp Lejeune. She joined the Marines in June 2006, and had not been sent to either Iraq or Afghanistan. Laurean worked in the same unit, where both were personnel clerks.
Steiner said Lauterbach had four siblings. Worried about the difficulty of raising a child while a single Marine, she had talked with her family about putting the baby up for adoption, he said.
According to court documents filed this week, Lauterbach's mother told investigators that her daughter was bipolar and had a history of compulsive lying. Steiner said the family wanted to give authorities a fair and accurate impression, and that while Lauterbach tended to stretch the truth in stressful situations, "she was not a compulsive liar."
"We're all going to miss Maria horribly," Steiner said. "She was a big part of our lives. What I personally hope comes out of this is that victims of sexual assault in the armed services will be taken more seriously and this will be handled differently in the future."
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310126 is a reply to message #310046] |
Sat, 12 January 2008 04:22 |
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Starbuzz wrote on Sat, 12 January 2008 03:03 |
Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 20:46 | And...that doesn't mean that it was the US government that caused it. You will have assholes everywhere you go.
gtfo my internet.
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All he's trying to say is that the U.S military is just as any other military. And other the fact that it is the best on the planet, it is also plagued with problem soldiers just like any other army.
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British soldiers are the best trained, actually.
(pointless nitpicking, this thread is just another sad story)
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310131 is a reply to message #310126] |
Sat, 12 January 2008 04:54 |
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CarrierII wrote on Sat, 12 January 2008 05:22 |
Starbuzz wrote on Sat, 12 January 2008 03:03 |
Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 20:46 | And...that doesn't mean that it was the US government that caused it. You will have assholes everywhere you go.
gtfo my internet.
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All he's trying to say is that the U.S military is just as any other military. And other the fact that it is the best on the planet, it is also plagued with problem soldiers just like any other army.
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British soldiers are the best trained, actually.
(pointless nitpicking, this thread is just another sad story)
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S.A.S. FTW. They kept Isreal out of the first Gulf war.
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310232 is a reply to message #310028] |
Sat, 12 January 2008 13:49 |
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prasp wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 20:37 | Pregnant Marine's grave apparently found
Quote: | JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - Authorities said Friday they believe they found the shallow grave of a pregnant Marine in the back yard of a comrade she accused of rape, along with evidence inside his home that suggested she had been killed.
Investigators are treating the case as a homicide, said Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown. But the prime suspect left a note insisting Lance Cpl. Maria Frances Lauterbach had killed herself, Brown said.
After some slight digging in a fire pit discovered in the yard of Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean, detectives found what "appeared to be burnt human remains," Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Friday night.
"We think we have found what will (contain) the skeletal remains of Maria Lauterbach," Hudson said. Authorities placed a tarp and two white tents over the area and planned to begin slowly scraping the earth with garden tools Saturday morning.
Lauterbach, 20, vanished three weeks ago, days after she talked to military prosecutors about a rape case against Laurean, who remains at large. Authorities said Friday that information from another woman, a former Marine, left them certain that she is dead.
Before fleeing Jacksonville on Friday, Laurean left a note that said Lauterbach had "come to his residence and cut her (own) throat," Brown said.
But crime scene investigators found blood stains and obvious signs of that a cleanup had taken place inside the home, Brown said late Friday.
"Evidence now is showing that what he claimed happened didn't happen," Brown said.
Authorities learned about the note from Laurean's wife, a person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. In the note, the person said, Laurean wrote that he had nothing to do with Lauterbach's suicide, but that he had buried her body.
Laurean's wife Christina is "heartbroken," said her mother, Debbie Sue Shifflet.
"I feel sorry for the other family," Shifflet said. "It's horrible what they're going through. My heart goes out to them."
Authorities on foot and all-terrain vehicles searched Laurean's neighborhood near Camp Lejeune on Friday. Megan Melton, who lives nearby, said dozens of vultures had descended on the area in the past few weeks.
Although the outdoor search was suspended for the night, investigators from the State Bureau of Investigation moved indoors and began a search for blood and other evidence inside his one-story, brown brick ranch home.
The search continued late Friday for Laurean, a 21-year-old from Clark County, Nev., who had refused to meet with investigators and apparently left the area without telling his lawyers where he was going, the sheriff said.
Lauterbach met with military prosecutors in December to discuss pursuing rape charges against Laurean, said Kevin Marks, supervisory agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service at Camp Lejeune. He said military prosecutors believed they had enough evidence to argue that the case should go to trial.
In court papers filed this week, prosecutors said the anticipated birth of the baby "might provide evidentiary credence to charges she lodged with military authorities that she was sexually assaulted." Lauterbach reported the rape in April and was due to give birth in mid-February, authorities said.
In a brief interview with reporters outside the family's home in Vandalia, Ohio, Lauterbach's uncle, Pete Steiner, said the rapist was the father.
Authorities said they were not concerned that Laurean would flee because they had information the pair carried on a "friendly relationship" even after she reported the assault to military authorities. There is no indication Lauterbach asked the military to protect her after she leveled the rape allegations, investigators said.
Steiner, however, said his niece didn't have any kind of relationship with her attacker, and that Lauterbach had been forced to rent a room off base because of harassment at Camp Lejeune.
"She was raped," Steiner said. "The Marines, unfortunately, did not protect her, and now she's dead."
Originally from Dayton, Ohio, Lauterbach was reported missing Dec. 19 by her mother, who last spoke with her daughter on Dec. 14, authorities said. Her cell phone was found Dec. 20 near the main gate at Camp Lejeune, and she missed a Dec. 26 prenatal care appointment.
Lauterbach was assigned to the 2nd Marine Logistics Group of the II Marine Expeditionary Force, based at Camp Lejeune. She joined the Marines in June 2006, and had not been sent to either Iraq or Afghanistan. Laurean worked in the same unit, where both were personnel clerks.
Steiner said Lauterbach had four siblings. Worried about the difficulty of raising a child while a single Marine, she had talked with her family about putting the baby up for adoption, he said.
According to court documents filed this week, Lauterbach's mother told investigators that her daughter was bipolar and had a history of compulsive lying. Steiner said the family wanted to give authorities a fair and accurate impression, and that while Lauterbach tended to stretch the truth in stressful situations, "she was not a compulsive liar."
"We're all going to miss Maria horribly," Steiner said. "She was a big part of our lives. What I personally hope comes out of this is that victims of sexual assault in the armed services will be taken more seriously and this will be handled differently in the future."
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Uhm, so hold on, by your standards, America is a big evil entity that purposely allows it's soldiers to rape people...?
Excuse me, one question: Were you on drugs at the time of this post?
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310426 is a reply to message #310385] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 00:09 |
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Prasp does have a point but there needs to be a limit in his logic since it is pretty much littered with generalized anti-American conspiracy garbage.
While dumbasses can be found in any military, claiming them all to be dumbasses is wrong since there are many who fight honorably.
Sure, we don't live in a clear-cut black and white world and I ain't a brainwashed flag-worshipping zombie either. But I dislike random accusations founded on raw hate and emotion without rationality.
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310606 is a reply to message #310028] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 15:22 |
prasp
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Quote: | So stfu you retarded dumbfuck and stop thinking with your assheaded emotions.
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Why don't you?
Quote: | All he's trying to say is that the U.S military is just as any other military. And other the fact that it is the best on the planet, it is also plagued with problem soldiers just like any other army.
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And yet it couldn't defeat an army one-third it's size in Vietnam.
Quote: | In his imagination.
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Just because this rarely is ever reported in the mainstream media nowadays doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Quote: | Uhm, so hold on, by your standards, America is a big evil entity that purposely allows it's soldiers to rape people...?
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Yes, because other soldiers will kill them if they tell superiors, and the upper hierarchy usually let's them get off easy if there is ever a trial in the first place.
Quote: | While dumbasses can be found in any military, claiming them all to be dumbasses is wrong since there are many who fight honorably.
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Well, it's about a half, and they're fighting for the wrong cause anyways.
PS-All of you with your mindless "OMFG U H@T3 @MERICA FCUK 0FF" are going to be ignored until you stop posting your opinions mindlessly and you can back them up with facts.
Read this before you even think of posting:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAS505A.html
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310610 is a reply to message #310606] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 15:38 |
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prasp wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 22:22 |
Quote: | So stfu you retarded dumbfuck and stop thinking with your assheaded emotions.
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Why don't you?
Quote: | All he's trying to say is that the U.S military is just as any other military. And other the fact that it is the best on the planet, it is also plagued with problem soldiers just like any other army.
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And yet it couldn't defeat an army one-third it's size in Vietnam.
Quote: | In his imagination.
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Just because this rarely is ever reported in the mainstream media nowadays doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Quote: | Uhm, so hold on, by your standards, America is a big evil entity that purposely allows it's soldiers to rape people...?
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Yes, because other soldiers will kill them if they tell superiors, and the upper hierarchy usually let's them get off easy if there is ever a trial in the first place.
Quote: | While dumbasses can be found in any military, claiming them all to be dumbasses is wrong since there are many who fight honorably.
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Well, it's about a half, and they're fighting for the wrong cause anyways.
PS-All of you with your mindless "OMFG U H@T3 @MERICA FCUK 0FF" are going to be ignored until you stop posting your opinions mindlessly and you can back them up with facts.
Read this before you even think of posting:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAS505A.html
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I would really like to know the shit you're smoking, because it must get you REALLY high.
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310623 is a reply to message #310028] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 16:29 |
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There are multiple problems with the first post in this topic.
The title of the post implies that the American Army ordered 2 or more males to rape one or more females on more than one occasion (Quoting topic title: 'Mass Rapes', plural). However the post only implies a single male raping a single female, which cannot be considered to be mass rape.
The title also implies, as mentioned before, that this rape was ordered by the American Army. However the rape was the action of a single man not acting under orders from the American Army, hence it cannot be considered that the American Army committed rape, but that a single male commited rape, and it just happens to be the case that he is in the American Army. If a Tesco employee (or other supermarket chain) commits rape, that does not mean Tesco commits rape.
Furthermore, the title states that the American Army is 'Capable' of mass rape. This much is true, because any group containing at least two males is capable of mass rape by the definition of the act, but it does not mean they will actually commit mass rape.
In future, please ensure the title of your topic is relevant to the actual post you make, and please refrain from being a complete and utter twat. Thank you.
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Re: And yet you people still say the American Army isn't capable of mass rapes [message #310657 is a reply to message #310623] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 18:27 |
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danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 13 January 2008 17:29 | There are multiple problems with the first post in this topic.
The title of the post implies that the American Army ordered 2 or more males to rape one or more females on more than one occasion (Quoting topic title: 'Mass Rapes', plural). However the post only implies a single male raping a single female, which cannot be considered to be mass rape.
The title also implies, as mentioned before, that this rape was ordered by the American Army. However the rape was the action of a single man not acting under orders from the American Army, hence it cannot be considered that the American Army committed rape, but that a single male commited rape, and it just happens to be the case that he is in the American Army. If a Tesco employee (or other supermarket chain) commits rape, that does not mean Tesco commits rape.
Furthermore, the title states that the American Army is 'Capable' of mass rape. This much is true, because any group containing at least two males is capable of mass rape by the definition of the act, but it does not mean they will actually commit mass rape.
In future, please ensure the title of your topic is relevant to the actual post you make, and please refrain from being a complete and utter twat. Thank you.
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He also says that these "mass rapings" are rarely mentioned in the media... I wonder how he knows they're actually happening?
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