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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304631 is a reply to message #304625] |
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You know what? I take back what I said. I blame child services. It is their fault.
There are too many laws restricting ways of raising kids. These ways are the ways that the parents themselves where brought up. And thus each generation is getting worse and worse.
If your kid does something wrong, you SHOULD hit him/her!
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304640 is a reply to message #304631] |
Thu, 20 December 2007 20:54 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 21:42 |
You know what? I take back what I said. I blame child services. It is their fault.
There are too many laws restricting ways of raising kids. These ways are the ways that the parents themselves where brought up. And thus each generation is getting worse and worse.
If your kid does something wrong, you SHOULD hit him/her!
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Agreed! Spanking was the most effective punishment when I was younger XD. Had it not been my parents strict rules, I very well may be what I despise.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304642 is a reply to message #304639] |
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| Stewie wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 22:53 |
people younger than you, doesn't mean we all should be.
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Kids are smarter than you think. If you continue to punish them by either saying "No, don't do that!" or you take something away from them or you send them to their room, they are eventually going to stop caring about what you do and disregard the punishments.
I mean really. You tell a kid to go to his room because he is grounded for the rest of the day, and he says no. What are you going to do? Ground him for 2 days? What's the point?!
Kids who grow up in houses that are "violence free" normally are the people who grow up to be homicidal maniacs.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304649 is a reply to message #303851] |
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I think a lot of kids who disregard their parents are like this because their parents gave them too much freedom. By doing this, I think parents hoped to get more respect, but the process goes backwards as the kids grow up.
Anyone have any examples to back this up?
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304655 is a reply to message #303851] |
Thu, 20 December 2007 21:52 |
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Well, here's a nutcracker for yah.
My friend has a mother who loves him very very much. But she punished him for the stupidest things. she banned him from X-Box, MSN, sitting on the couch, and reading. That's right, he was banned from reading books. He was banned from TV and the Computer after he didn't do his homework for one night, when it was due next week. And if he ever violated any of these bans, (outside of school) he would be grounded.
Now, my friend is really depressed and hates his mother. Half the time he's at one of his friend's house, and 45% of the time he's at his grandad's. The only 5% he's at home with his mother is when they're constructing the Bungalow out back for him to live in, away from his mother.
He rarely ever swears by the way.
Heresy grows from idleness!
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #304881 is a reply to message #303851] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 09:40 |
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I blame some of the kids that want their lives to be easier, and therefore take it to court.
A little girl who's parents were divorced, was over at her father's house. He told her to get ready for something and she wasn't done in time or something like that. So he spanked her with a wooden kichen spoon through her jeans. She told her counseler and her dad was charged with child abuse becuase she didn't do what she was told and was punished.
I also don't think that parents should have their visitaiton rights revoked on heresay. Slightly bad example but, in Santa Clause, Scott Calvin's visitaion rights were revoked because his kid was telling people that Scott was Santa. The reason the visitation rights were revoked were because Scott was starting to look like Santa, and Neil thought that was bad for Charlie's mental health. What they should have done instead of straight out revoking his right to visit Charlie, the court should have talked to Scott's doctor about his white hair, abnormal facial hair growth speed, and how he gained 45 pounds in a week. That court was just wrong.
It should also be harder to get a divorce without strict evidence. That is also a problem with kids. They think that they don't have to be married. Religion, Starbuzz, might be bad for some things like world peace, but you do have to admit that people that have a religion like Christianity are much less likely to get divorced and still have stable households that nonreligous people.
My problem is, that I know what I mean, but I can't type it. Hopefully you know what I mean with all this.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305060 is a reply to message #304925] |
Sun, 23 December 2007 09:59 |
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I learnt to swear from my parents. No doubt. I mean i heard a few bad words from school and heard the first affermention to sex there, when another kid asked "Are you a virgin?" i got the piss taken out of me then as i had no comprehension of what it meant then...
I heard a lot of words like "Fuck, Bastard, Asshole, Dick-Head" and other strong words when i was about 4.
My Mum is very protective and my Dad is very strict on the swearing account of things. But they had there roughs as Married Couples do and i guess as it's so common to throw in extra words like "Shit and Fuck" to emphasise your'e point they did it unwitingly infront of me.
Naturally thinking it was more grown up and smart or clever in my young age i started to swear frequently. Until my Dad & Mum realised and started to swat my ass to the point of me crying and stuttering in my words.
I got out of the habit of swearing quite thoroughly by the time i was 8. Now even in my teen days at a good old age of 14 i don't swear much if not at all. Unless it's a very important of elevated matter. I also swear frequently when i'm around my mates, but it's really more less strong words like "Crap" and "Asshole".
I just think that many parents swear and teach there kids there bad words unwitingly. There are however a selective few parents who don't care or just see the whole matter as when and where they learn them. If not at school or at home kids will learn these words naturally in the real world.
I once was waiting at some traffic lights with a mate when two kids cam by on a BMX (Couldn't have been more than 6) and shouted "Hey you fucking twats what are you looking at!?"
I had done nothing to them, i didn't even know who they where. They didn't know me or my mate either. They just went past on a BMX on the other side of the road and shouted that at me.
The same happened in a shop in town. The store wasn't that full but a kid at least 4 years old in HMV in town said to me as i went past called me a bastard. I looked at him in a way, as if yo say "That's a bad word! Why did you call me that?" sort of thing. Then his Mum went past and told him to hold his hand in the store.
I find these sorts of things so annoying. As you can't ever really reply to them. You can't exactly tell them off or swear back...
I consider often informing the parents that there Son/Daughter called me something "Naughty" but i think it's not my place to.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305250 is a reply to message #303851] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 00:41 |
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try being me where i live i know a kid whos dads a gang banger and the kid is 7 years old alreayd been arrested stabed someone beat some kid and slammed his face into the pavement been caught with beer and shit gotten high and drunk and chased kids to stab them and etc all that shit man.....
girls at my old school 12 years old and 13 dating 19 and 21 year old guys....dressing liek sluts and talking dirty.....
teens going to jail for shit the adults do...
everyday thing this worlds getting worse....just wiat to me (16 years old) gets older and i have kids with soem girl think about how the generation then weill be like...worse thne now
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305298 is a reply to message #303851] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 06:14 |
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I doubt the internet is the root cause, although I would say it provides kids with a place to cuss their little brains out in relative safty, promoting cussing (maybe).
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305312 is a reply to message #305298] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 08:00 |
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Joe.
That's is some pretty extreme stuff there. You must really live in a very depleted area.
Not many people have a valid excuse for there children being "Bad". But if someone has financial problems like credit card debt or there Marriage isn't in order(So to speak), i guess that there childs choice of wordage and language use isn't the most pressing matter.
A parent should always be concience of what there child wants, needs and there state of mind. That is a parents job...there responsibility.
But in life there is so much more that they have to consider and deal with. I mean the Bills, Money, Job. And the other problems adults face can easily distract or interfere.
I am very fortunate though. I have a Mum & Dad who are still together, a moderate income of cash between them and a reasonable house to live in.
My parents are very commited to keeping me and my brothers respectable. They at great financial expense moved houses when i was 6. As the area we used to live in was a bit of a dump.
The neighbors shouted, swore and even cursed at us frequently. If a football went over there fence by accident they would deliberately set there dog on it to chew it up then throw it over whilst shouting "here's ya fucking ball!"
I don't think that parents should hit there kids frequently to keep them from swearing etc. If you start to implement punishments like "No T.V after 5o'clock" if you did something really bad or other things of that category at a relatively young age(About 3-4) i think it can have the same psychological impact on a child to behave.
Without having to hit them physically.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305414 is a reply to message #305312] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 15:31 |
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| bat66wat6 wrote on Mon, 24 December 2007 07:00 |
Joe.
That's is some pretty extreme stuff there. You must really live in a very depleted area.
Not many people have a valid excuse for there children being "Bad". But if someone has financial problems like credit card debt or there Marriage isn't in order(So to speak), i guess that there childs choice of wordage and language use isn't the most pressing matter.
A parent should always be concience of what there child wants, needs and there state of mind. That is a parents job...there responsibility.
But in life there is so much more that they have to consider and deal with. I mean the Bills, Money, Job. And the other problems adults face can easily distract or interfere.
I am very fortunate though. I have a Mum & Dad who are still together, a moderate income of cash between them and a reasonable house to live in.
My parents are very commited to keeping me and my brothers respectable. They at great financial expense moved houses when i was 6. As the area we used to live in was a bit of a dump.
The neighbors shouted, swore and even cursed at us frequently. If a football went over there fence by accident they would deliberately set there dog on it to chew it up then throw it over whilst shouting "here's ya fucking ball!"
I don't think that parents should hit there kids frequently to keep them from swearing etc. If you start to implement punishments like "No T.V after 5o'clock" if you did something really bad or other things of that category at a relatively young age(About 3-4) i think it can have the same psychological impact on a child to behave.
Without having to hit them physically.
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ITS TRUE I LIVE in and grew up around some major gangs and kids here are worst then most of you guys whould so in ur lives and the adults....o boy....to me u can be best perent ever and kids still cna make fucked up decisions....its kinda up to them really.
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| Re: What happened to sweet little kids? [message #305587 is a reply to message #305428] |
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It isn't that kids are getting too much freedom, it is the parents who don't understand the meaning of punishment.
Taking away a kids cell phone for a week is not a very good punishment for not doing your homework...
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