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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:16 |
| GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 13:52 |
We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath.
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Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you.
America took so god damn long to get into World War 2 for political reasons, end of. Neither of the Presidential candidates dared it. We didn't care about that, our friends and allies were attacked so we jumped into the fray. America can't claim that.
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I wouldn't say the warpath started with Poland...what about the Rhineland, Austria, and Czechoslovakia? Of course we didn't declare war on Germany...they hadn't provoked us(though we did have skirmishes on the North Atlantic...which strangely enough was because of the material we were shipping to your country).
Frankly I don't blame the US for taking so long to jump into the conflict with our friends and allies, we "jumped" into another conflict 20 years earlier...and all we got was the flu, a thank you card, and another war.
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YOUR government isn't perfect....have a look at the American War in Vietnam......
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You're right, our government isn't perfect, I will never claim it is. Vietnam was one of those circumstances where we jumped "into the fray" to help our allies.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297454 is a reply to message #297443] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 14:02 |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:16 |
Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you.
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Just a quick quip... yes, Britain and France declared war on Germany after Poland's invasion, but little was done. They don't call that period the 'Phony War' for no reason. It was generally when Atlantic trade was interrupted by the Germans, that the party got started.
Remember too, that Germany's belligerence was often secretly welcomed by America, and England. A powerful Germany, governed by a fierce anti-communist, meant that the country would become a powerful economic power, and trading partner.
And another thing... America declared war on the Axis, because Germany was trying to coerce Mexico to invade the United States, in order to distract America from affairs in Europe. Hitler knew that if America were to enter the war, it would turn the tide. It wasn't just Pearl Harbour that brought the Americans in.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297456 is a reply to message #297451] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 14:13 |
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| PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 |
At least we didn't lose to the French.
How humiliating.
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I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out.
That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297474 is a reply to message #297276] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 15:23 |
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This argument can't be settled.
So it'll be easier to do this.
Canada > UK & USA.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297475 is a reply to message #297474] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 15:24 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:23 |
This argument can't be settled.
So it'll be easier to do this.
Canada > UK & USA.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297478 is a reply to message #297456] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 15:48 |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:13 |
| PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 |
At least we didn't lose to the French.
How humiliating.
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I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out.
That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority.
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The French didn't help us until we defeated the British at Saratoga. That started to change the tide of the war. I am confident in saying that we could have won without the French. We couldn't have won as easily, but I feel we would have without the French.
As far as regarding them as spineless, I still feel that way about the French. Just because they may have helped us back 200-something years ago doesn't mean that things haven't changed. Things obviously have. We've become the world's largest superpower.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297479 is a reply to message #297276] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 15:49 |
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[14:32] <Sex_Kytten> nikki6ixx
[14:32] <Sex_Kytten> Oh one last thing......as a testament to American gun hoe fever......you drowned hundreds of your own men accidentally whilst training for D-Day....... GG 
[14:32] <cr0sis> and 8 batteries
[14:33] <Sex_Kytten> [22:30] <@_3663Nixon> i think i should have a say in this
[14:33] <Sex_Kytten> ok well i'll throw them away
[14:33] <nikki6ixx> I'm not American, btw
[14:33] * Sex_Kytten leaves
[14:33] <Sex_Kytten> yes you are
[14:33] <cr0sis> I know what you could do
[14:33] <tactic356> nikki
[14:33] <nikki6ixx> Nope
[14:33] <cr0sis> Chain yourself up with them
[14:33] <tactic356> dont deny it
[14:33] <Sex_Kytten> you just have health care
[14:33] <tactic356> canada is part of america
[14:33] <Sex_Kytten> and gun control
[14:33] <cr0sis> and throw the key
[14:34] <nikki6ixx> You know, it's always the English who say Americans are ignorant
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> no
[14:34] <nikki6ixx> And yet, that is one ignorant statement
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> it's always everyone in the entire world
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> and is it fuck
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> I fucking lived there
[14:34] <cr0sis> fuck fuck fuckety
[14:34] <cr0sis> fuck
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> I watched a program on Jay Leno
[14:34] <cr0sis> ??!FUCK!?!?
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> "Where is Coppenhaggen"
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> "errr 7/11"
[14:34] <Sex_Kytten> that's fucking dumb
[14:35] <cr0sis> Hagen Dasz!
[14:35] <cr0sis> -s
[14:35] <cr0sis> i think
[14:35] <Sex_Kytten> "what would you say If i told you it was in Denmark?"
[14:35] <Sex_Kytten> "eeerrrr where?"
[14:35] <Sex_Kytten> Americans ARE ignorant of every country that isnt canada and Mexico
[14:35] <cr0sis> IRAN WHEEEEEEE
[14:35] <nikki6ixx> But you saw that on Leno, right?
[14:35] <Sex_Kytten> and the only reason they acknowledge them is because
[14:35] * cr0sis brb, gettin nukes
[14:36] <tactic356> BLOW SOME CHUNKS
[14:36] <nikki6ixx> You saw that on Jay Leno, right?
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> Mexicans are trying to invade
[14:36] <cr0sis> assinvade
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> and Canada their own serial killers are trying to get out
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> [22:36] <%nikki6ixx> You saw that on Jay Leno, right?
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> that particular program yes
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> but I saw many other things as well
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> the July bombings
[14:36] <nikki6ixx> Trust me, American's are especially upset with ignorant Americans
[14:36] <cr0sis> K Goin 2 bed
[14:36] <Sex_Kytten> 2005
[14:36] <cr0sis> lata
[14:37] <Sex_Kytten> 2 Americans killed in the blast....tradgic I know but
[14:37] =-= cr0sis is now known as cr0sis[away]
[14:37] <cr0sis[away]> lolwtf
[14:37] <cr0sis[away]> i hitted wrung 1
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[14:37] =-= Mode #jason761 +qo jason761 jason761 by Satan
[14:37] <cr0bot> [jason761]: Y_JeloS My G0lD WaRrI0r CuP? g?G noch3tpl_X
[14:37] <cr0bot> jason761 has 5 recommendations!
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[14:37] <Sex_Kytten> US tv covered it as such "Explosions in a London underground have claimed the lives of 2 Americans - another display of Americans being targeted over seas"
[14:37] <Sex_Kytten> WTF
[14:38] <Sex_Kytten> there were 52 others fucking killed that day
[14:38] <nikki6ixx> ...
[14:38] <Sex_Kytten> that is sheer ignorance to believe those 2 were specifically targeted
[14:38] <Sex_Kytten> had fuck all to do with the London Underground
[14:38] <nikki6ixx> Uh...
[14:38] <nikki6ixx> And how much focus did the British Channels give to the Americans, or other countries' people?
[14:38] <nikki6ixx> Lets be realistic here
[14:39] =-= cr0sis is now known as cr0sis[ZedzedZed]
[14:39] <Sex_Kytten> wtfc
[14:39] <nikki6ixx> They are targeting Americans.
[14:39] <Sex_Kytten> How much focus were the 200 nations given who lost people in 9/11
[14:39] <Sex_Kytten> non
[14:39] <nikki6ixx> They see England as an extension of America
[14:39] <Sex_Kytten> e
[14:39] <Sex_Kytten> well shame they don't see Canada that way isnt it
[14:39] <cr0sis[ZedzedZed]> lolargument
[14:39] <cr0sis[ZedzedZed]> Night
[14:39] <nikki6ixx> They do
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[14:39] =-= YOU (nikki6ixx) have been booted from #jason761 by Sex_Kytten (what argument)
[14:39] [INFO] You are banned from this channel.
Real Mature. At least to me, it says something about someone's character when they plug their ears, and drown out someone else's voice.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297497 is a reply to message #297456] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 16:41 |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 15:13 |
| PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 |
At least we didn't lose to the French.
How humiliating.
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I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out.
That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority.
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Now that I see your point, I understand. But I also understand why you might see this as the case, though in defense, I have heard maybe one person ever say that. And he's an asshole, which I'm sure you have in the UK too.
I don't imagine that French assistance in the American Revolution was selfless, though. No nation goes into a war without an agenda. To put it simply, France would've loved to see Britain screwed over by losing a colony, especially since they lost a lot of territory to them.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297500 is a reply to message #297479] |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:49 |
Really fucking long IRC log
Real Mature. At least to me, it says something about someone's character when they plug their ears, and drown out someone else's voice.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297544 is a reply to message #297540] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 21:24 |
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| razorblade001 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 20:45 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:13 |
| PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 |
At least we didn't lose to the French.
How humiliating.
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I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out.
That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority.
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I have never ONCE in my LIFE heard any American ever relay that sort of message to anyone under any circumstance... I really have no idea where you would get that idea.
Maybe it is YOU who cannot get over WW2...?
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I have met many Americans who have said the same ignorant shit, so it's quite commen.
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| Re: UK > US [message #297552 is a reply to message #297276] |
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like i said
california needs to secede and become its own world power
black and proud
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| Re: UK > US [message #297561 is a reply to message #297540] |
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| razorblade001 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 20:45 |
I have never ONCE in my LIFE heard any American ever relay that sort of message to anyone under any circumstance... I really have no idea where you would get that idea.
Maybe it is YOU who cannot get over WW2...?
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I'm not gonna dignify that with an answer.
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