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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289198 is a reply to message #289187] Mon, 08 October 2007 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly...pointless speculation about some irrelavent bullshit.

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289199 is a reply to message #288357] Mon, 08 October 2007 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289201 is a reply to message #289187] Mon, 08 October 2007 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renerage wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 18:39


Why do you people think that jsut because we dont see it/hear it it doesnt happen?
Thats the most illogical excuse I've EVER heard.
Some of you, are making yourselves look stupid.


In my theory, I used the definition to back it up. A sound is vibrations taken from the organs and such. Though there was another one said vibrations through the air.

Again, I answered yes and no.
Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289235 is a reply to message #289187] Mon, 08 October 2007 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renerage wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 19:39


No he didnt. He brought objects into it.
The light is still there, our eyes just cant see it.
Heres a question- Smart one-
You have night heat vision goggles on, during the day, you light your light into the sky-
An powerful noe, not a dinky flash light. Other then the yellow/orange you see around you, you will see a dark red beam of light.
BUT ZOMGZ HACKS THE LIGHTS NOT THERE
You people need to get off this arguement,
Why do you people think that jsut because we dont see it/hear it it doesnt happen?
Thats the most illogical excuse I've EVER heard.
Some of you, are making yourselves look stupid.


Lol dude, what do you think the point of my example was? That if we can't see it, it isn't there?

No, the point of my example is that even though we can't see it, it IS there. Way to restate my example through a much more confusing one... lol.


But anyway, lets bring about a close to this argument.

The answer is not "Yes" it isn't "No" the answer is simply unknown.

No matter how you define sound. Either as receiving the sensation of a sound wave and actually hearing something. Or sound being the actual sound wave itself.

The answer is unknown because since no one is there, unlike everywhere else, there is no way to prove that a sound wave even was created!

Think about it. When sound waves where discovered, and from then on observed, there was always at least one living thing that can perceive sound present. So whose to say that if there isn't any one/thing present at the time of the incident that is supposed to send out a sound wave, that a sound wave would even happen. There is no way to experiment and test the theory, and there is no way to prove one occurred or one didn't occur.

You can use all the logic you want, but when it comes down to it, you just cannot prove that a sound wave even was created. Thus the answer to the question is simply "Unknown"

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289247 is a reply to message #289235] Mon, 08 October 2007 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whether im with you, or not,
The point is-
The sound is there, the light it there.
We just may not see/hear it to consider it there.


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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289251 is a reply to message #289247] Mon, 08 October 2007 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't get why you keep telling me that. I already said that before...

See I did say it:

Yes it makes a sound. Weather we actually hear it nor not, the sound is there. It is just at a frequency that most people can't hear.

The difference is though, our brain or anything that can hear a sound's brain is receiving those soundwaves. Weather or not they actually hear the sound, there is still sound.

Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289256 is a reply to message #289251] Mon, 08 October 2007 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But then the arguement-
Does it make a sound? Makes no sence.
We dont need to hear sound for it to happen.


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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289473 is a reply to message #288658] Tue, 09 October 2007 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jecht wrote on Fri, 05 October 2007 22:20

Darkknight wrote on Fri, 05 October 2007 19:22

actually the question really should be if a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him is he still wrong? Big Grin


The answer to that question is yes unless no other woman exists on the planet he occupies Razz


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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #289521 is a reply to message #289473] Tue, 09 October 2007 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't believe so. I think that as long as no woman hears it, he isn't wrong. Lol
Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #290905 is a reply to message #289521] Tue, 16 October 2007 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is only one way to find out:
Put a tap recorder in a forest, let it record, after a tree just happens to fall down come back and replay the tap.
As there was no one around if there is a sound on the tape that means there was a sound.

I have yet to test this but it should work Thumbs Up


Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #290935 is a reply to message #288357] Tue, 16 October 2007 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you shouldnt be knocking down trees

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #291002 is a reply to message #290935] Wed, 17 October 2007 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocko wrote on Tue, 16 October 2007 23:08

you shouldnt be knocking down trees

Knocking down? I was thinking something more along the lines of starting a fire. LOL, just kidding.


Re: If a tree falls in the forest... [message #291019 is a reply to message #291002] Wed, 17 October 2007 12:16 Go to previous message
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No, if you put a tape recorder there, someone will eventually hear it, and that voids the question.

You can put a tap recorder there... but... your not allowed to listen to what's on the tape. Razz
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