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get an orca or apache then if u detect enemy tank get near it and attach ur self (i mean like come realy close) to its top and then shoot with bullets at him

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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287201 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287218 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And literally get killed by Tank shots at close range?

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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287249 is a reply to message #287218] Sat, 29 September 2007 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, he means to be flying/hovering above the tank so it's gun cannot traverse high enough to hit you.

Also, when engaging other flying vehicles, try to be on top and attack. The Apache/Orca's guns are pointed downwards when you go forwards. So, when you are close enough to the enemy chopper, fly backwards and shoot the other guy. Flying backwards will lift the nose (and guns) from downwards to an upwards position.


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287252 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And if you evade Bullets they dont hit you lol orly!!!1
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287256 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tbfh apache>orca if you can fly.. but if the orca is a total pussy theres not much u can do cept rush in low come up and rocket him.. orcas have the distance with is powerfull... but they both can be countered with Havoc/Sak Med/Ltank
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287263 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If your aircraft gets killed by a tank then you must suck.

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287265 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its not that hard to hit a Aircraft with a Light...
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287267 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll drive an APC around sometimes just so I can double as mobile base defense and AA. An Orca or Apache can beat an APC in a fight, but most pilots pull back if they take any damage at all just in case something nastier lurks about.

At a distance, MLRS actually isn't that bad at taking out aircraft, sinc ethe individual rockets do loads of damage and several from each salvo will lock on and track. However, that's a desperation tactic at best since the aircraft can usually close the distance fast and get behind you before you can kill them.

IMHO, Orcas and Apaches are best used for defense. They can respond to threats much faster than infantry or land vehicles, they do lots of damage in a short amount of time, are great against infantry and vehicles alike, and can use the base structures as cover in case the n00bjets hit the field in force. A single well-used Orca/Apache on defense is IMHO equal to any two tanks.


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287281 is a reply to message #287263] Sat, 29 September 2007 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Sat, 29 September 2007 17:12

If your aircraft gets killed by a tank then you must suck.



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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287283 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i did this once, i got pwnt easily, the best is to fly at a medium/high level and shoot them moving around in a odd pattern so they cant catch you.

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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287289 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hi if the guy in ltank/med can aim ur gona die..
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287290 is a reply to message #287289] Sat, 29 September 2007 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SoQReaL wrote on Sat, 29 September 2007 20:45

hi if the guy in ltank/med can aim ur gona die..


They can't aim if the Orca is too directly above the tank. Most of them simply drive backwards so the gun can lock onto the Orca/Apache...to which the person in the chopper simply has to move forward to adjust. And you get a dead tank real soon.


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287294 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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im best player, i took down DrkXFactrs orca with a mobile artillery on walls fly!1!1!11
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287296 is a reply to message #287294] Sat, 29 September 2007 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NSStRyKeR wrote on Sat, 29 September 2007 21:40

im best player, i took down DrkXFactrs orca with a mobile artillery on walls fly!1!1!11


The truth is several mistakes DrkXFactrs made have helped you to kill him...you simply exploited his mistakes. *Claps hands* I am Orca pilot I know.


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287316 is a reply to message #287196] Sat, 29 September 2007 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In some games, having a tank aim at your aircraft could easily spell doom. Playing the Desert Combat mod for BF1942, for instance, I used to annoy the hell out of chopper pilots by popping their rides with the Abrams from halfway across the map (in addition to being a fairly good chopper pilot myself). That doesn't work with tanks in Ren. The projectiles travel far too slowly and are far too visible; if you can see the tank that is shooting at you, then you can evade its shot unless you've done something stupid.

The key is not horizontal but vertical movement; a lot of pilots don't have the brains to think in 3-D and so will just ascend and level off and not touch the vertical thrust controls until they want to land. They also tend to be the ones who don't use their strafe controls. Those are the people who die when they get into fights with tanks. They die because it takes more time to turn and fly in a given direction than it does to either strafe or bob up and down. A pilot who maneuvers in all three dimensions and is constantly weaving back and forth will not be threatened by tanks. Even if the tanker leads your flight path and predicts where you will be, you can see the incoming shell and alter your flight path and it will miss you completely.

Thus, no matter how good you are with a tank or arty- and I dare say I'm pretty good with them myself- you will not be able to kill any halfway decent VTOL jock. They will kick your ass up one side and down the other unless you have some backup. Two tanks have a chance because they can present a threat from two different directions and pin the pilot in between, but even that is iffy against a good pilot. If you want to kill Orcas and Apaches, don't buy tanks- it's as simple as that. Buy advanced infantry with instant-hit weaponry (though please, for the love of all that's holy, don't stoop to using snipers against aircraft), APCs, or an aircraft of your own.

The only ground vehicles which are any threat to either Orcas or Apaches are APCs and the MRLS- the former because it has an instant-hit weapon with decent range and refire, and the latter because it has a weapon that is guided about 50% of the time and has extremely good range. Stealth tanks and Mammoth tanks have guided missiles too, but Orcas and Apaches can outrange both of them. Hummers and Buggies have weapons similar to the APC's, but they do not have the armor to outlast the aircraft's superior firepower.

For similar reasons, any enemy with a rocket launcher can be safely ignored, whereas Laser Chainguns, Laser Rifles, PIC/Railgun, snipers, and n00bjets are major threats.


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287334 is a reply to message #287196] Sun, 30 September 2007 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #287963 is a reply to message #287263] Wed, 03 October 2007 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Sat, 29 September 2007 18:12

If your aircraft gets killed by a tank then you must suck.


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Surth wrote on Sun, 30 September 2007 05:28

I'd like to cw you all.



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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #288054 is a reply to message #287196] Wed, 03 October 2007 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No playing with RG bypassers plx. Sarcasm

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS


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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #288072 is a reply to message #287196] Wed, 03 October 2007 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tbh
snipers>orca's/apache's big time
and on most big servers there are at least 5 people in 1 team snipering...
Re: orca and apache tactics [message #288082 is a reply to message #288054] Wed, 03 October 2007 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 03 October 2007 14:29

No playing with RG bypassers plx. Sarcasm








go dodge tht 1v1 real quak

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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #288088 is a reply to message #287196] Wed, 03 October 2007 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where did I accept or anyone challenged me? Sarcasm Exactly so stfu you downed kid. (Change your name in Control Panel)

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
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Re: orca and apache tactics [message #288129 is a reply to message #287196] Wed, 03 October 2007 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is a downed kid lol
this thread is hilarious lol


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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 03 October 2007 16:19

Where did I accept or anyone challenged me? Sarcasm Exactly so stfu you downed kid. (Change your name in Control Panel)



Why act dumb? i asked you in another thread. You didging or you take my offer you "Downed...Kid..." LMFAO
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