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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287051 is a reply to message #286979] Fri, 28 September 2007 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 04:09

Killing your own tanks so they become wrecks so you can bypass teh tank limit is a really retarded thing to do anyway. And 20 tanks for 10 players? =/

This seems to be a "trend" nowadays, thank God we haven't enabled wrecks.


Join an marathon server with 50 players for a few days and you soon understand why massing is needed.

To be honest, I'll don't like massing myself, I'll would prefer the vehicle limit to be increased like we have in MP, but server owner said no. In Love so we have to mass to win.
Re: What happen to this game? [message #287053 is a reply to message #287048] Fri, 28 September 2007 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Elite Officer wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 10:44

I know I hate this too! One game the NOD team could have lost a HON with a simple APC rush. But I could not even buy a freaking APC because people just kept buying mammys and shit and then locking them and running away as a infantry person. Angry So here we have like 15 mammys that are locked and they are empty so it's just pointless. Dont Get It You can't drive the mammy because it is locked, and you cant buy a vech because of the Vechicle Limit. It happens like every game! Gosh what happened to buying tanks within moderation Sarcasm


That's exactly why we don't use that stupid-ass feature. No stupid wrecks, no stupid locking.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287054 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are many servers out there that still encourage teamwork...

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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287056 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well massing does make players work as an team, doesn't happen much, but players work together to build a mass wave up, they gotta share the money, buy the tank, line them up, kill them to a wreck, repair abit and repeat when you got enough, all the team repairs.

It's a pretty sight to see an entire team help out and win afterwards. Smile
Re: What happen to this game? [message #287057 is a reply to message #286999] Fri, 28 September 2007 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Darkknight wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 08:13

Wyld1USA wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 23:12

*cough* *cough* you went into the wrong server m8..... try Jelly Servers or n00bstories. Plenty of teamplay about in there.


Jelly Servers??

I was playing on it one day, and was on GDI. We had only the power plant left and i had the only med tank. Was defending all game they were repairing me. Wave after wave of attacks we fought off. Everyone was saying keep the med alive, keep the med alive and telling me i was doing a great job.

Then one of the server mods tells me to get out of the tank he wants it. Said if I do not get out and give him the tank, he will kick me out of the server. Everyone was like what are you doing he is doing a great job. Guy wanted my tank I refused. He kicks me out of the game.

I will never play there again.





What map was it? If I were you I would have quickly killed the tank with C4 or better...get out the base to the enemy to be killed! You would have served the Mod! Big Grin

P.S. I knew I had problems with Jelly before but now I have no problems whatsoever with them. I kinda don't hate them anymore...they got fair mods now.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287072 is a reply to message #286943] Fri, 28 September 2007 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 00:12

*cough* *cough* you went into the wrong server m8..... try Jelly Servers or n00bstories. Plenty of teamplay about in there.


You'll always find 4 or 5 people willing to teamplay on a big server like n00bstories, but not everyone wants to play in a big server...

For one, I'm still on a lower end PC, and secondly, there's way too many people running around to the point where it's hard to do anything other than tank rushes.

I never really liked huge 50 player servers either, Renegade meets its peek at around 24 players. Heck, even if you have a 6 on 6 with really good players on each team, you can have a blast.

I never join public servers unless I'm with people I know, it's as if the majority of players aren't into teamwork like they used to be. People were a lot better at Renegade back when this game was still new in 2002 and 2003. It was a real challenge back then. Now, it's a challenge just to kill noobs without being convicted of cheating all the time.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287074 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's nothing wrong with massing. In an 8 hour Marathon game, it's often the one way the game will end (the other is usually a server crash or some such).

What I don't get is why on earth you would come and whine about being kicked for hampering your own team? Making 30 tanks for 10 people... hmm, no brainer? I think anyone with less than half a brain can realize that you can rush--get this--more than once! Is it that hard a concept to understand.

What on Earth makes you think that this is worth whining about? Ya, OK, let's join the military and destroy a tank that can be repaired! Maybe we can shoot a dying soldier while we're at it too?

If you seriously need to make a server look guilty when you can't follow a simple rule, you need help.

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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287077 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ironwarrior, Yes I got kicked, t-banned or what not, but i didnt really care at that point, im not returning to that server again.

If you think setting up 30+ tanks for waves is teamwork, then your out of your mind! Everyone on the same page buying a med tank and killing just a few to pass the limit would be more like it.

I tried to organize a mass gunner rush but everyone was to busy waiting for 100 tanks for 10 waves, while we wait we could do something else you know?

It was just a bunch of lame people on the server, and I wanted to vent. So i made a post, I didnt see any rules about attacking buildings, nor did i see any rules about wrecks, wrecks are dumb anyways.

but your right, what i did was stupid and equally matched by the stupidity on that server.

@stewie, 8hr's??, sorry I joined the wrong server i guess, i dont have 8 hrs to play a game of watching people buy med tanks and kill em...

and your logic of waves is off, if 1 wave doesnt work, what makes you think the next wave will?...all it takes is 10 med tanks and they wouldnt be able to keep the building up for long(then just buy them normally!), if it doesnt work then "oh noes your giving them credits!!, bannnnhim!!1"

It may be a marathon, but if your attacking the enemys base, you still have an upper hand. As you hold the field and pound every tank that trys to come out, you are winning. I'm still gaining more credits then the other team.

Maybe if everyone attacked the HON, you may finally get it to blowup...back in the day this is how you would win.

Marathon + wrecks + dumb rules = horrible gameplay


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287078 is a reply to message #287077] Fri, 28 September 2007 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Titan1x77 wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 16:57

Marathon = horrible gameplay


Fixed.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287079 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287103 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and your logic of waves is off, if 1 wave doesnt work, what makes you think the next wave will?


Were you dropped on your head as a child?


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287106 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are more legitimate ways of winning Renegade, I consider tank massing a bug. There's a vehicle limit for a reason, and exploiting that limit would be a glitch in the game. Like all exploits, vehicle massing should be disallowed.

Building 20 vehicles to rush a base is probably is least creative way to attack. It's a lot more fun to have a collective rush of 7 tanks, with hotwires backing them up, snipers, and anti-armor guys. Vehicle massing takes away from the game.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287107 is a reply to message #287106] Fri, 28 September 2007 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 18:42]There are more legitimate ways of winning Renegade, I consider tank massing a bug. There's a vehicle limit for a reason, and exploiting that limit would be a glitch in the game. Like all exploits, vehicle massing should be disallowed.

Building 20 vehicles to rush a base is probably is least creative way to attack. It's a lot more fun to have a collective rush of 7 tanks, with hotwires backing them up, snipers, and anti-armor guys. Vehicle massing takes away from the game.


Yes, that works in theory, but doesn't work out well in game.

Massing and rushing with over 20 tanks is more true to Command and Conquer style of gameplay.

Re: What happen to this game? [message #287116 is a reply to message #287107] Fri, 28 September 2007 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 19:47

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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 18:42]There are more legitimate ways of winning Renegade, I consider tank massing a bug. There's a vehicle limit for a reason, and exploiting that limit would be a glitch in the game. Like all exploits, vehicle massing should be disallowed.

Building 20 vehicles to rush a base is probably is least creative way to attack. It's a lot more fun to have a collective rush of 7 tanks, with hotwires backing them up, snipers, and anti-armor guys. Vehicle massing takes away from the game.


Yes, that works in theory, but doesn't work out well in game.

Massing and rushing with over 20 tanks is more true to Command and Conquer style of gameplay.




Sure it works ingame, it's what the rest of us are doing in non-tankmassing servers.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287128 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287137 is a reply to message #286933] Fri, 28 September 2007 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Obviously this topic is just another issue where people toss their own opinions around about other people's servers.

Everyone has their own opinions about other servers. In my opinion, FnFall isn't my choice of server because of my own personal reasons. Other servers are because it's the samething as the next just different way of using those special features and ideas different servers have. I don't play public games anymore. I either play in my Mt0wn Servers or I go play a clanwar. That's why I do clanwarring. You want teamwork, hell, set up a clan and get a teamate(s) that will work with you. It's interesting that way and you learn alot of different strategies and tactics that actually lead to winning the game instead of walking AFK n00bs in a public server running around thinking repair guns are the best option at killing people.

Different communities, different gameplay, different rules, different server mods, different mod staff. There are many things that can make a server successful. The answer doesn't always have to be an a00 name. Don't critize them because of it.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287149 is a reply to message #287057] Fri, 28 September 2007 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 13:58


P.S. I knew I had problems with Jelly before but now I have no problems whatsoever with them. I kinda don't hate them anymore...they got fair mods now.


Ill give them another try.

Anyone know their ip and port. i use renip.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287153 is a reply to message #287045] Fri, 28 September 2007 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:35

luv2pb wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 09:09

Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 00:12

*cough* *cough* you went into the wrong server m8..... try Jelly Servers or n00bstories. Plenty of teamplay about in there.

It is all about the type of player your server attracts. The sucessfull servers that are full are that way for a reason. They are unique in some way. Other than we both host Renegade servers there is not much that you can compare Jelly and n00bstories with. The servers that are empty are because they are the same run of the mill bullshit. You just need to find your match. Knowing how long you have been playing and your (assumed) skill level I would agree that n00bstories would be a good fit for you.


That is total fucking bullshit.

You only have players because you are in the top of the lists.

if you think otherwise, give us your precious a00 names.



I Totally agree here, give up the nicks and lets see where it takes your "players"?.

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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287184 is a reply to message #286933] Sat, 29 September 2007 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jelly Servers??

I was playing on it one day, and was on GDI. We had only the power plant left and i had the only med tank. Was defending all game they were repairing me. Wave after wave of attacks we fought off. Everyone was saying keep the med alive, keep the med alive and telling me i was doing a great job.



That sounds like my experiences at Jelly.

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Then one of the server mods tells me to get out of the tank he wants it. Said if I do not get out and give him the tank, he will kick me out of the server. Everyone was like what are you doing he is doing a great job. Guy wanted my tank I refused. He kicks me out of the game.

I will never play there again.



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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287312 is a reply to message #287153] Sat, 29 September 2007 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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zillia wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 21:09

IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:35

luv2pb wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 09:09

It is all about the type of player your server attracts. The sucessfull servers that are full are that way for a reason. They are unique in some way. Other than we both host Renegade servers there is not much that you can compare Jelly and n00bstories with. The servers that are empty are because they are the same run of the mill bullshit. You just need to find your match. Knowing how long you have been playing and your (assumed) skill level I would agree that n00bstories would be a good fit for you.


That is total fucking bullshit.

You only have players because you are in the top of the lists.

if you think otherwise, give us your precious a00 names.



I Totally agree here, give up the nicks and lets see where it takes your "players"?.


The a00 nickname attracts the players, but it's the quality of the server, the staff, and the gameplay that keeps them coming back. I have been running a server since a few months after the game came out so I know what the hell I'm doing, and so do the people who help me run it.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287319 is a reply to message #287045] Sat, 29 September 2007 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:35

luv2pb wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 09:09

Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 00:12

*cough* *cough* you went into the wrong server m8..... try Jelly Servers or n00bstories. Plenty of teamplay about in there.

It is all about the type of player your server attracts. The sucessfull servers that are full are that way for a reason. They are unique in some way. Other than we both host Renegade servers there is not much that you can compare Jelly and n00bstories with. The servers that are empty are because they are the same run of the mill bullshit. You just need to find your match. Knowing how long you have been playing and your (assumed) skill level I would agree that n00bstories would be a good fit for you.


That is total fucking bullshit.

You only have players because you are in the top of the lists.

if you think otherwise, give us your precious a00 names.




your servers are so cool sitting empty at the bottom with your zzz names.


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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287320 is a reply to message #287312] Sat, 29 September 2007 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like vehicle shells. I think they add ambiance to the map.

But I don't like how you can repair them and they spawn a new vehicle.

They should just appear when a tank is destroyed, then can only be blown up from there.

It makes the map look cooler.



Also, those A00 names mean crap to me. I don't understand... what other reason do people who are looking for a server to play on have to sort the game listings by host name? Other than being invited to join a specific host.

No one is like "Oh hey, that host's name is A0000lol! Lets join that server cause they have 4 zeros!"

Hell, no one even searches by server name anymore, although that is the best one to search by if your looking for a game, because game names usually tell you want the server is. (I.E Sniping, AOW, CTF, ect)

Other than that, I would say sorting by Players or Map are the two main ones people use. I usually search by server name or amount of players in game. I never search by host name.

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Re: What happen to this game? [message #287340 is a reply to message #286933] Sun, 30 September 2007 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Noobs don't know how to search by name, and that's how I started playing somewhere else instead of n00bstories. -_-' They just look for the servers on the first page of the listings.

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First...if you don't like massing, don't play in a 50 player Marathon server. I'd recommend either BI or TK2 AOW for you, Titan. Very Happy

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Rocko wrote on Sun, 30 September 2007 00:40

IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:35

luv2pb wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 09:09

Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 00:12

*cough* *cough* you went into the wrong server m8..... try Jelly Servers or n00bstories. Plenty of teamplay about in there.

It is all about the type of player your server attracts. The sucessfull servers that are full are that way for a reason. They are unique in some way. Other than we both host Renegade servers there is not much that you can compare Jelly and n00bstories with. The servers that are empty are because they are the same run of the mill bullshit. You just need to find your match. Knowing how long you have been playing and your (assumed) skill level I would agree that n00bstories would be a good fit for you.


That is total fucking bullshit.

You only have players because you are in the top of the lists.

if you think otherwise, give us your precious a00 names.




your servers are so cool sitting empty at the bottom with your zzz names.


Do not post when you don't know what the fuck you talking about, thank you.

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