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| w0dka wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 09:10 |
Skill for me?
Work in teams, know when your allie needs help and also know when someone could help you.
Comunication, a few jokes, quick discussions what to do next, what does who where when?
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This is teamwork, not skill. They're both vital, but they're completely different things.
| w0dka wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 09:10 |
Knowing the game, when do what, what is in this situation useless? Which unit is perfect for which job?
hit that you want to hit, know how to drive/shoot.
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Everything in this part is vital for 1v1s. And if they constitute skill, how can you claim that 1v1s don't require skill?
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286819 is a reply to message #286526] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 10:56 |
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1 V 1's do need skill, but they don't make you better than a person who say, cannot pistol like you, but can play as part of a team in larger game.
1 v 1's do not prove EVERYTHING. (Sorry Troop, they DO NOT. No, really.)
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286820 is a reply to message #286819] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 10:59 |
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pretty much, yeah. They prove skill, but they don't prove what it takes to win bigger games, which is skill AND teamwork. They also don't mean you've won the argument unless the argument is "I'm better than you at 1v1s"
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286873 is a reply to message #286784] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 16:08 |
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| SoQReaL wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 10:05 |
lol public server n00bs..
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n00b refering to players who are new or behave like they are new to a game. usually in a insulting way. Why you want to insult me?
And whats wrong with public games, sure i would prefer if anymone work together but a public server offers you the oppurtunity for quick action, a game with a huge battle, everywhere action.
@Spoony
I think teamwork is skill. Why? You need to learn how to work with your team. When just say they will handle it, trust them. Work so they can help you and you help them. A team is not a bunch of guys who screw your work or don't get things done that you wouldn'T get done.
Simple thing:
Field, Your're GDI Nod filled Field with Arts, Lights maybe a tech out there. You're Team decide to retake field with Med'S covered by a mlrs maybe. A fakeion is planted, hopefully one nod guy is retreating you rush out.
Situation a)
You' re Med gets focused,
you can retreat and repair,
rush to a enemy and try to C4 him or
drive to a friendly tank to repair it from behind.
Situation b)
You're Friends Med gets focused
you can just fire at the enemy hope he fix it himself/retreat
block the hits from the enemys with your med to get him a few extra seconds
hop out and repair him
in all two situations you have to learn what is the right choice.
Adn don'T start with TS2 ... vital seconds.... hectic screaming...X want to say Y what to do... all this isn't good for overal performance.
But you're right with 1on1 it takes skill, but i personally didn't like the way . changed my mind a bit.
Thanks.
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286990 is a reply to message #286989] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 04:50 |
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| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 06:27 |
At the end of the day, skill is skill and teamplay is teamplay. If you're in a large game, being skillful by yourself isn't going to win the game.
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mmmmm i beg to differ, im sure plenty have people have turned "large games" on there side due to there skill. E.G Rushin there air/weps with a tech GG
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286992 is a reply to message #286990] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 05:29 |
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| SoQReaL wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:50 |
| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 06:27 |
At the end of the day, skill is skill and teamplay is teamplay. If you're in a large game, being skillful by yourself isn't going to win the game.
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mmmmm i beg to differ, im sure plenty have people have turned "large games" on there side due to there skill. E.G Rushin there air/weps with a tech GG
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Im not saying that is not possible, it is very possible that a single good player has tilt the game into there teams favor. However, In a large game like 10v10 and up, 1 single person does not win the game no matter how good they are. You might be godlike but if 10 people come at you you might pistol a few of them but you will die.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286993 is a reply to message #286992] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 05:39 |
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| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 08:29 |
| SoQReaL wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:50 |
| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 06:27 |
At the end of the day, skill is skill and teamplay is teamplay. If you're in a large game, being skillful by yourself isn't going to win the game.
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mmmmm i beg to differ, im sure plenty have people have turned "large games" on there side due to there skill. E.G Rushin there air/weps with a tech GG
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Im not saying that is not possible, it is very possible that a single good player has tilt the game into there teams favor. However, In a large game like 10v10 and up, 1 single person does not win the game no matter how good they are. You might be godlike but if 10 people come at you you might pistol a few of them but you will die.
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Actually it is possible to beat the game with 1 person. I guess it really depends on the skill of all of the other players. This one time it was the same people, it was a 15 vs 15 player game one time and thhis guy, "xii", had like MVP*6. He musta been really good, but he could have benn hacking.  Not sure weather he was or not.
The reason Uranus is tilted 90 degrees is because god got angry and kicked it over.....
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #286994 is a reply to message #286526] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 05:41 |
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MVP*6 in 15v15 -> spent a lot of time in arts or mrls probably. That requires no skill whatsoever.
Sneaking with a tech doesn't necessarely require skill either. Remember the quote Spoony posted "I'm hiding behind a rock"?
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #287019 is a reply to message #286993] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 08:12 |
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| The Elite Officer wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 13:39 |
| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 08:29 |
| SoQReaL wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 12:50 |
| Caveman wrote on Fri, 28 September 2007 06:27 |
At the end of the day, skill is skill and teamplay is teamplay. If you're in a large game, being skillful by yourself isn't going to win the game.
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mmmmm i beg to differ, im sure plenty have people have turned "large games" on there side due to there skill. E.G Rushin there air/weps with a tech GG
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Im not saying that is not possible, it is very possible that a single good player has tilt the game into there teams favor. However, In a large game like 10v10 and up, 1 single person does not win the game no matter how good they are. You might be godlike but if 10 people come at you you might pistol a few of them but you will die.
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Actually it is possible to beat the game with 1 person. I guess it really depends on the skill of all of the other players. This one time it was the same people, it was a 15 vs 15 player game one time and thhis guy, "xii", had like MVP*6. He musta been really good, but he could have benn hacking. Not sure weather he was or not.
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What and this Xil dude won the match single handed.. No support from his team whatsoever in a 15v15. Very very unlikely.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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No he was not in an arty or MRLS, he also was not sneaking with a tech either. He was playing really good. I think that everybody (even me  )was a nOOB, and like I said earlier he could have been hacking. If he was, he musta been playing it well. But no joke he had like MVP*6 wehn I finally left the game.
The reason Uranus is tilted 90 degrees is because god got angry and kicked it over.....
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #288472 is a reply to message #286873] |
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| w0dka wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 19:08 |
| SoQReaL wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 10:05 |
lol public server n00bs..
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n00b refering to players who are new or behave like they are new to a game. usually in a insulting way. Why you want to insult me?
And whats wrong with public games, sure i would prefer if anymone work together but a public server offers you the oppurtunity for quick action, a game with a huge battle, everywhere action.
@Spoony
I think teamwork is skill. Why? You need to learn how to work with your team. When just say they will handle it, trust them. Work so they can help you and you help them. A team is not a bunch of guys who screw your work or don't get things done that you wouldn'T get done.
Simple thing:
Field, Your're GDI Nod filled Field with Arts, Lights maybe a tech out there. You're Team decide to retake field with Med'S covered by a mlrs maybe. A fakeion is planted, hopefully one nod guy is retreating you rush out.
Situation a)
You' re Med gets focused,
you can retreat and repair,
rush to a enemy and try to C4 him or
drive to a friendly tank to repair it from behind.
Situation b)
You're Friends Med gets focused
you can just fire at the enemy hope he fix it himself/retreat
block the hits from the enemys with your med to get him a few extra seconds
hop out and repair him
in all two situations you have to learn what is the right choice.
Adn don'T start with TS2 ... vital seconds.... hectic screaming...X want to say Y what to do... all this isn't good for overal performance.
But you're right with 1on1 it takes skill, but i personally didn't like the way . changed my mind a bit.
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Can I say owned???  
The reason Uranus is tilted 90 degrees is because god got angry and kicked it over.....
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| Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" [message #288776 is a reply to message #286526] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 14:13 |
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I haven't ever played a formal 1 v 1, but I'm going to assume the quick thinking necessary to jump from repairing a building, to keeping the enemy occupied, and then a moment later demolishing one their own structures, would require quite a bit of skill.
And SoQReal, quit harping at "public server 'n00bs'" . You know, some people just play for the fun of it, and enjoy playing on a server that has a variety of skill levels. To me, that's what makes this game so fun to play.
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