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| Re: The British National Party [message #286716 is a reply to message #286714] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 00:22   |
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Kytten9
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| Starbuzz wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 08:12 |
| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 02:09 |
| IronWarrior wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 00:29 |
| Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 18:22 |
| JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 17:51 |
I don't know, the pages got erased from our history books...what I do know is that Britain needs to be bombed.
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Well, this time around, try to bomb their radars first before trying to bomb their cities. 
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They wouldn't be able to get off the ground before they get owned.
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Exactly! 
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And their ships are a joke LOL!
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Don't you think it's ironic that a land-locked country has a friggin navy?!?! 
You have a God given right to be stupid. Please do not abuse this right!
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286722 is a reply to message #286096] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 02:12 |
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Well, you're pretty stupid for arguing with my shock posts in the first place, but calling Germany a landlocked country makes me wonder what sort of disability you're suffering from.
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286753 is a reply to message #286096] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 06:22 |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 10:11 |
I'll probably get a few unwelcome replies to this thread, but meh.
The first thing a big chunk of people probably think when they hear those three words is a skinhead petrol-bombing a cornershop. I condemn thugs like that without a second's hesitation, but when I type this thread it's important to understand that isn't what the BNP is about, not anymore. It surely used to be a racist organisation, but under Nick Griffin it's taken a crappy reputation and turned it into a politically sound group. Undoubtedly it appeals to your average racist thug more than, say, Labour, but it also appeals to people who're sick of Labour's endless stream of bullshit more than Labour.
I've never been inclined to vote for one of the three major parties... mainly because as time goes by it's increasingly difficult to tell them apart, the only visible difference at the minute being their stances on the EU. Brown's being "fuck Britain tbh", Cameron's being "my rating's slipping and a referendum promise will boost it" and the Lib Dems are as good as hopeless anyway.
While that's all very well (at least as the Conservatives go, anyway), stuff that's genuinely out of control in England gets no attention at all, or simply gets false promises... i.e. crime, immigration and asylum seekers, education and healthcare. Meanwhile motorists and home-owners are mercilessly taxed further and further.
Barely a day goes by without one of the three major parties making some promise about one of the above which is completely fucking retarded... Cameron's hug-a-hoodie bullshit, the Lib Dems' "make illegal immigrants legal so they pay taxes... what? what do you mean they don't want to work? *sticks fingers in ears* LALALALALALALA"
The only party whose policies I consider sound anymore is the British National Party... they're also the only ones I have any faith in to carry out the promises that get them elected in the first place. And if anyone worries about the onset of fascism, all I have to say in response is keep Labour in charge; and if you want to see brutality and repression, in a couple of generations you will. It's called sharia, and as long as we keep up the aggressive tolerance we've been displaying, bending over backwards to please everyone who isn't white no matter how much British culture we need to molest to do it, and doing absolutely nothing to control immigration as we haven't in decades, we're heading that way. We're already setting up sharia law courts... frankly, it's a terrifying prospect.
You only need to look at the constant stream of examples... anything remotely British gets banned for the sake of not offending people who, if British culture offended them, were monumentally idiotic in their decision to move to Britain. Whereas nobody's banning the protests from Muslims calling for death, bombings, beheadings... which offends everyone who isn't a barbaric piece of shit.
Anyway... let's take a look at the BNP's policies for a second.
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
A while ago, I'd have agreed with this except for one sentence:
an immediate halt to all further immigration
That sounds extreme, but so are the circumstances. The best bit is the end of positive discrimination. It's not only unfair to white people, it's condescending to ethnic minorities who actually are skilled and hard-working.
EUROPE - back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain's family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
yes. The EU's done Britain very little good. I wouldn't mind if it didn't harm us at the same time, but £43 million A DAY? While the NHS, the police force, the educational system, the MoD and state pensions are starved of funds?
What's more, the current surrender of power to Brussels can't be a good thing (no offence aht), and you only need to look at what happened on September 11th this year to see what I'm getting at...
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the 'rights' of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
mmmhmm.
ECONOMY - British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour's statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.
This the only bit I'm not so sure about... supermarket monopolies? If this is about penalising Tesco and Asda then it's bullshit... if it's about giving tax breaks to smaller businesses then fine
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
We are against the 'trendy' teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.
More style than subtance here, but as long as we aren't gonna carry on seeing stuff like taking Winston Churchill and the Holocaust out of the curriculum in favour of teaching Urdu, I'm down with that...
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
being something of a city boy and therefore having the mindset that food grows in shops, I won't comment on this one.
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
can't really argue with this
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in Britain's public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.
dream come true tbh
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. "The polluter pays to clean up the mess" must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
Not overly caring about this, but meh, it's good.
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
oh yes. Don't get me wrong - if you as a person or company want to donate to charitable causes, I respect and applaud you. But, as I said before, "While the NHS, the police force, the educational system, the MoD and state pensions are starved of funds?"
Sort our own country out first, hmm? You know, the citizens whose tax money fill the pot and elect the people deciding where it goes?
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain's old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
Again, can't argue.
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
Frankly, I don't want to touch this one, more out of lack of knowledge than anything else. Give 'em a referendum is all I can say. "Them" meaning the people of Ireland.
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain's armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain's armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling 'peace-keeping' missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.
yep. what's not mentioned is the shameful accommodation soldiers are given when they get back...
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
Britain's foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations' internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the 'international community', or any other country.
Well, there's the question. Tony Blair wanted Britain to be the USA's bitch, Gordon Brown wants Britain to be the EU's bitch, and sooner or later Britain be Islam's bitch unless some major upheaval happens. What's the best choice?
Nick Griffin's bitch.
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct 'élite' which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.
You only need to look at Gordon Brown and the EU Constitution to know how true the first part is. The Bill of Rights part could use defining, but meh... and freedom of speech? It's about fucking time, since the only people who seem to have freedom of speech at the minute are barbaric murder-condoning bigots.
Discuss... and to answer the inevitable question: yes I have hair, and no I've never petrol-bombed a cornershop.
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Hmmmm i think ive heard things like this before you know. Its sounds like Mugabe's manifesto in Zimbabwe. Everyone knows how good the economy is doing there lets follow there lead 
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286756 is a reply to message #286096] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 06:41 |
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Germany owned Europe pretty hardly in WW 2 before Hitler made the fatal mistake of taking on the US and the Russians as well.
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286771 is a reply to message #286749] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 07:25 |
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| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 07:26 |
| Ryu wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 10:53 |
So Germany got humiliated in WWI? I'm pretty sure they have a massive army now, And not 2 submarines. :\
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WWI and WWII actually, but who's counting?!?
Oh and my mistake I was confusing Germany with Switzerland....sure not the same country geographically, but full of pussies. I have German relatives you little prick and just because "OMG YOU HATE BRITTAINAINSNISH PEOPLE" doesn't mean we should be bombed. It's attitudes like yours that dream up this fucking political neo-nazi parties in the first place, you take a disliking to a race, or religion or way or life or culture because it's not like yours and being childlike and completely moronic you fixate on it for the rest of your pathetic little teenage years until bamm your an adult (of sorts) and "OMG I HATE THIS PART OF THE WORLD LETS BOMB THEM" you sound like a terrorist and a coward. Do humanity a favour and take your narrow minded ideals of things you clearly have no grasp or contemplation of else where!
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HAHAHAAHAHA
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286772 is a reply to message #286756] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 07:27 |
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| Goztow wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 08:41 |
Germany owned Europe pretty hardly in WW 2 before Hitler made the fatal mistake of taking on the US and the Russians as well.
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I heard he got bored.
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286803 is a reply to message #286798] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 09:05 |
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| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 10:42 |
| Goztow wrote on Thu, 27 September 2007 14:41 |
Germany owned Europe pretty hardly in WW 2 before Hitler made the fatal mistake of taking on the US and the Russians as well.
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I dont remember the German war machine ever stepping foot in the UK.....so huh, just coz the French rolled over and said woof doesn't mean Europe was owned as I believe the UK was then and is still part of Europe so 
Anyway you're partly right Goztow Hilter fought a war on two/three/four fronts toward the end and that is never smart! Whether Germany would have ever got to the UK or not remains to be seen because they would have had to fight for every square inch of the country, simply because we used to be an empire, no way we'd keel over and be ruled by another....It's just British Stubborn nature. 
Edit oh yeah sorry Spoony back on topic
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Indeed.
And, I've need to correct you on something. 
"Whether Germany would have ever got to the UK or not remains to be seen", well it was seen, you remember the Battle of Britain?
Here is a good video of us brits owning them in the air: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuI0gFUq3HY
And with their failed attack to destroy our Air Force, Germany could never launched Sea Lion, the Germany inversion of Britain. 
Anyway's, lets ignore John wanker, he is a wannabie German and should be ignored.
I've have many good German friends and they own. 
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286816 is a reply to message #286096] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 10:47 |
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Then you are an idiot for posting irrelevant, non-serious posts in a political topic.
NOW GET ON TOPIC. Grr. This thread had grown so much I thought I was in for a nice long read and think, and instead I get spam. Hmmph.
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| Re: The British National Party [message #286864 is a reply to message #286096] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 15:08 |
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Aye mrp u still play?
I recently discovered Trailer Park Boys...you Canadians get major props for that show, like foreal yo! Had to get that off my mind, thx.
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